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Holiday Stress with Dr. Bob Bulgarelli

Registered User Moderator   (server) Wed Dec 06 08:00:00 PM EST 2006
Our chat about Managing Holiday Stress starts at 9pm Eastern.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 08:24:01 PM EST 2006
Every Year, you vow the Holidays will be different. Now is the time to make sure they are! Take stock of the things you are doing and figure out what it is that you really want out of the season.......Tis The Season To Be Mindful.........Let There Be Peace Of Mind.....
Place an Image in your mind of what the holidays will look like and whom you wish to share it with. How much time do you realy want to spend "socializing", and with whom. Are you experiencing unease, because 2006 has been a tough year? Most people think they should feel happy during the Holidays, and when they don't, because of sadness, anxiety or anger, the contrast can cause unease and even tension with those people you have chosen to spend time with! Remeber the first step in minimizing stress is recognizing where stress REALY comes from! You see we get so caught in the DRAMA of our lives, that we forget that we are the one's that created the drama in the first place!
Lets take some time to think about what we all need to do to "Make the Season Bright.....and Light"
I look forward to this Chat.
DocBoogs

Registered User Mike type 1  (24.91.204.237) Wed Dec 06 08:25:13 PM EST 2006
I wish my diabetes would take a holiday.

Registered User Lisa Mom of Billy, 13, diagnosed at 10  (64.12.116.72) Wed Dec 06 08:46:44 PM EST 2006
I think my son feels that way, too, Mike. How long have you been diabetic?

Registered User Moderator   (server) Wed Dec 06 08:50:00 PM EST 2006
Our chat about Managing Holiday Stress starts in 10 min in the 'Holiday Stress' room.

Registered User Mike type 1  (24.91.204.237) Wed Dec 06 08:52:09 PM EST 2006
since 1968

Registered User Mike type 1  (24.91.204.237) Wed Dec 06 08:52:33 PM EST 2006
diabetes been working full time all the time.

Registered User Mike type 1  (24.91.204.237) Wed Dec 06 08:53:26 PM EST 2006
I gotta work in the morning. framing a remodel addition converting an old school to a community center.

Registered User Lisa Mom of Billy, 13, diagnosed at 10  (64.12.116.72) Wed Dec 06 08:56:41 PM EST 2006
My son has been diabetic for three years. . .

Registered User Lisa Mom of Billy, 13, diagnosed at 10  (64.12.116.72) Wed Dec 06 08:57:18 PM EST 2006
I don't think i can wait for the chat. Sorry. :-(

Registered User Jeff Hitchcock Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/1989  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 08:58:51 PM EST 2006
Tonight's Holiday Stress chat starts shortly.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:00:16 PM EST 2006
Hi Jeff! Good evening to everyone

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:00:23 PM EST 2006
Jeff, I posted a short paragraph to get the chat rolling. Will it be visible to thaose who join?

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:00:48 PM EST 2006
Jeff did Marissa go out of state for college?

Registered User Brenda H. momo of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:00:59 PM EST 2006
Buena sera?? Sebastiano. Not sure how to spell it.

Registered User Jeff Hitchcock Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/1989  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:01:16 PM EST 2006
Boogs, yes, the message below will be there until more messages scroll it off.

Sebastiano! Good to see you!

Registered User Brenda H. momo of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:01:29 PM EST 2006
Marissa goes nearby, about 45 min. away.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:01:35 PM EST 2006
Welcome Sebastiano

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:02:05 PM EST 2006
dating sure brings up a lot of why and what caused diabetes questions here lately.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:02:32 PM EST 2006
Is she living in the dorm?

Registered User Jeff Hitchcock Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/1989  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:02:35 PM EST 2006
I'll turn this over to Doc Boogs ... and Brenda.

Registered User Brenda H. momo of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:02:57 PM EST 2006
She's in a condo with two other girls.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:03:37 PM EST 2006
Buona sera (even if here it's 3 am...) anche a te!
Thank you...it's good to see all of you too!

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:03:49 PM EST 2006
Hello all, is Sebastiano still here?

Registered User Linda [pookas] Mom to: Hunter,6,dx'd 11/05,MM522  (65.144.220.82) Wed Dec 06 09:04:12 PM EST 2006
Hi all.

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:04:17 PM EST 2006
Seba don't leave yet come stai?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:04:35 PM EST 2006
Hi back atcha

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:04:46 PM EST 2006
Hi everyone

Registered User Brenda H. momo of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:05:15 PM EST 2006
Dr. B., Marissa was REALLY stressed yesterday. Bacteriology final! It's exam week for her. Frown 

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:05:24 PM EST 2006
Hi Marissa! don't worry I think to stay here for a while

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:05:35 PM EST 2006
Yes but I am done :-) and the blood sugars have come down

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:05:48 PM EST 2006
How are you Seba? How is the pump?

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:05:56 PM EST 2006
With the pump we don't feel the holiday food stress we did at one time.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:06:09 PM EST 2006
Marissa, How do you think you did and when did the good stress turn into dis-stress?

Registered User Brenda H. momo of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:06:44 PM EST 2006
Ann, "I" feel it, even if Marissa doesn't. Sometimes seems she is eating constantly. Smile 

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:06:48 PM EST 2006
Marissa Phil has AP Physics and funny that his blood sugar is always high 3rd hour.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:07:15 PM EST 2006
Hi Ann, Pumps to make life more like life don't they!

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:07:25 PM EST 2006
School is making Seth stressed too, he wants to switch classes

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:07:51 PM EST 2006
Phil has always been eating constantly, so for him to be able to cover it (and esp. the meat proteins) the pump has simplified it all.

Registered User Brenda H. momo of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:08:12 PM EST 2006
Heather, do you think it is a teacher issue?

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:08:13 PM EST 2006
I'm good thanks...pump is amazing: i'll check my A1c soon, and I'm so curious to see if there are positive changes...and now I'm trying the new model(for Italy!) of sets

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:08:34 PM EST 2006
The stress was basically just the day of the exam and the night before, but now it is gone for the most part. And yes, the more stress, the higher the blood sugar many times.

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:08:46 PM EST 2006
What kind of set is it?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:08:57 PM EST 2006
Brenda, Isn't it interesting that we "Feel" stress coming from others....sort of "second hand stress".....What do you do to stay peaceful, when you are feelin outside stress?

Registered User Billetdeaux Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:09:44 PM EST 2006
HI All - Sorry to be late to the conversation. Just drove home from the airport in an ice storm (speaking of stress)...

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:09:59 PM EST 2006
Marrissa, so is there a way come next final's that you can reduce that "last minute" stress cramming and keep the sugars in range?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:10:12 PM EST 2006
Me--depends on the stress and who is causing it! Sometimes, I will go for a walk. If it's morning, I'll go several miles. I stay closer to home in the dark or if it's too cold. Smile 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:10:29 PM EST 2006
Laura, glad you didn't try to chimne in from your PDA on the road!

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:10:45 PM EST 2006
Brenda, she's part of it. He's in a split gate class, there are a lot more 6th graders than 5th graders so he has to eat lunch and go to recess with the 6th graders and he misses his friends. Also he feels that she favors the 6th graders...I have talked with the principal and he's working on it...

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:10:50 PM EST 2006
Possibly a basal increase, less chocolate no matter how tempting it is and celery for snacks :-) I would have exercised, but I felt like any time I wasn't studying was wasting time. But I didn't do too bad on my exam at all so it paid off.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:11:01 PM EST 2006
Phil is conditioning again for Rowing crew. He just doesn't get it the first few days, to take a duffel bag and throw some juices in there instead of leaving them in the car. Of course someone went and retrieved them for him and of course he tells me about it for some reason afterwards.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:11:08 PM EST 2006
Marissa needs to do more work in advance and not "cram." She has a paper due at 3p.m. Fri. Probably hasn't written a word.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:11:30 PM EST 2006
Brenda, that is a greta way to come back to you....which is where we all need to go, to reset ourselves

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:11:41 PM EST 2006
I actually have already written an outline, mother dearest.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:12:31 PM EST 2006
Ouch....Mommy Dearest Mad 

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:12:55 PM EST 2006
It's ok she knows I love her and I know she loves me.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:13:26 PM EST 2006
I don't know the exact name of it...there's a sort of mechanism that you lean to your skin, and after you "push" the same, that "shoot" the set into the skin

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:13:29 PM EST 2006
 Smile 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:13:52 PM EST 2006
Just kiddin LOL 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:14:14 PM EST 2006
Another good way of relieving stress is probably cleaning. I guess most of us moms could scrub when we're angry and our houses would look better, too.

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:14:14 PM EST 2006
Seba- does it hurt? Is it a straight in or angled set?

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:14:48 PM EST 2006
I have heard that about Phil in Physics and Calculus, school work is fine, but he can't study the night before for the exams and expect to do great.

Sebastino, you got an inserter for your sets?

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:15:10 PM EST 2006
Super B vitamins help with stress..

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:15:32 PM EST 2006
Yes procrastination is always bad, but memorizing 65 pathogens, diseases and symptoms is pretty much impossible.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:15:33 PM EST 2006
GNC?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:15:50 PM EST 2006
Sebastiano came to Orlando, then spent a week with us, a week with Natalie B. and some time in NY. He saw the positive aspects of pumps and got one recently. Guess that's how HE dealt with some stress.

Registered User Mike type 1  (24.91.204.237) Wed Dec 06 09:16:00 PM EST 2006
hi Smile 

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:16:04 PM EST 2006
I always love Norah Jones or Coldplay. Plus a hottub visit  Smile 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:16:12 PM EST 2006
Cleaning, working on the decorations, planning parties are all things that do distratct us from the usual stresses, but when we over do things, then they can also become a source of stress

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:16:18 PM EST 2006
I bought mine at Target, I'm sure GMC has them too

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:16:31 PM EST 2006
oops GNC

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:17:00 PM EST 2006
So, what SHOULD we do to alleviate the stress?

Registered User Mike type 1  (24.91.204.237) Wed Dec 06 09:17:09 PM EST 2006
hard work and early start tomorrow so i am going to bed, just wanted to pipe in before I logged off.

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:17:28 PM EST 2006
Have a good night!

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:17:28 PM EST 2006
Ann-->yeah, a kind of

Marissa-->absolutely not...is vertical set

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:17:43 PM EST 2006
marrissa, do you use nemonics for long lists like that? It can make remembering mundane things like 65 pathogens less dull

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:18:02 PM EST 2006
Night Mike

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:18:05 PM EST 2006
Night Mike

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:18:25 PM EST 2006
So - stress... and particularly 'quick anger'... has been a hot topic at our house recently. I call it quick anger because it is Sam's response to a situation (whatever that may be), happens quickly, raises bg immediately and significantly, and then it takes forever for the bg to come down (it does, but well after the anger subsides). Trying some other strategies like 'holding the situation at arms length, counting to 10, and then looking at it again' before reacting. I'm sure it is the stress of school, exams, and holidays (and no sleep) causing this to happen now. Anyone else dealing with this? (Lack of sleep always makes things bad)

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:18:25 PM EST 2006
To the kids with diabetes? Do parents seem to stress you out more than anyone/thing else?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:18:40 PM EST 2006
I am feeling stress right now cause I can already tell I am the slowest typist! Confused 

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:18:43 PM EST 2006
For some of them my roommates and I made up songs and such but it's pretty difficult for the genera and species

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:18:44 PM EST 2006
Goodnight Mike. Happy building. Hope it isn't too cold.

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:20:04 PM EST 2006
Parents are stressful in some ways, for example trying to do things on my own they believe I am not ready for...and even though I may not be, somehow I need to manage and learn from my mistakes. I've just started taking Symlin and it's been a challenge.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:20:56 PM EST 2006
Arrgh, stress here, too. Dog #1 left the yard again and was off visiting (yeah, Marissa YOUR dog). Dog #2 doing much better since we are in obedience class.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:21:09 PM EST 2006
Brenda at this point Philip has been accepted into U of MI @ Dearborn.

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:21:10 PM EST 2006
Marissa, what do you do when you are really, really angry about something that has just happened a second ago - how do you respond? And does your bg go up? Seba?

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:21:16 PM EST 2006
Haha but mine is smarter  LOL 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:21:38 PM EST 2006
Ann, how far is that from home?

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:21:50 PM EST 2006
Hey Ann - We can worry together! Sam was just accepted to UM Ann Arbor for next fall! Grin 

Registered User Heather (CA) Seth's mom, 11 dx'd at 7 (shots)  (69.110.90.21) Wed Dec 06 09:21:51 PM EST 2006
For Seth he doesn't handle stress well if he's ALREADY high or low...Then, he hates it when he gets mad fast and I ask him to test..

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:22:08 PM EST 2006
Usually my bg does go up from stress, and if I'm really angry I'll probably complain about it to whoever I'm talking to at the moment and then usually a couple minutes later I feel much better.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:22:55 PM EST 2006
Marissa, what was your BG before that exam yesterday? And, afterwards?

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:22:58 PM EST 2006
about a 30 mile
commute

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:23:55 PM EST 2006
Laura, Gotta pay attention to that "Hot" anger....as you pointed out can do a number on blood sugars, amongst other things....Blood Pressure....Heart Rate....
You realy hit it on the head when you mentioned arms length.......one of the best strategies (and I am still practicing and remembering to put it into action) is to not respond.....take a breath, remove yourself temporairily, do whatever you need to do to allow time to organize a response that isn't over-run with emotion

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:24:20 PM EST 2006
Well...after my first exam yesterday my blood sugar was 350..I think I had a big bubble and instead of bolusing I got air, so before the exam I was around 200 but then after I was 140 and then dropped to 60. It was quite irritating.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:24:39 PM EST 2006
laura, 17 sucks!!!!!!!!!!!
Or maybe it's senior year or boredom, or thinking he should be allowed to make mistakes with consequences anytime he pleases.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:24:46 PM EST 2006
We were going to have Marissa commute, but we/she decided to live at school. Talk about stress! But, when I would download her meter on the weekends (I was the weekend laundry person), I'd see she was testing once or twice a night.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:25:33 PM EST 2006
when I was younger my parents(especially my mom) were very stressed...much more than me...

Laura-my bg tends to goes up, when i'm stressed...but it happen rarely:I have to be VERY stressed or nervous

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:25:52 PM EST 2006
I test every night for the most part...sometimes I don't wake up to my alarms though.  Blush 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:26:51 PM EST 2006
Sebastiano, do you have an idea as to what was most stressful for your parents, and how about now that you are older?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:26:56 PM EST 2006
We really want Marissa to use Symlin before breakfast to avoid the post meal spike, but it's hard when she's here on weekends and "breakfast" is at 12:30. The endo suggested she try it on her own and see how it goes. Stress worrying about lows until the dosage is fine tuned.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:27:08 PM EST 2006
Phil has been overeating some nights rather than doing a blood sugar check. Staying up too late, we have told him he can't be out past 11:30. Everything we say or do irritates him at this point. He still has his sense of humor most days, but I am ready for a Phil break.

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:27:20 PM EST 2006
Alright, sorry but my roommate and I are about to watch House and we're applying all the pathogens and medications we've learned, so it's somewhat educational  LOL 

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:27:50 PM EST 2006
Boogs, that's what I personally do, so it's where I started with Sam. Both my kids have hot tempers - and when they were younger, we addressed it as a family in counseling (when each of them reached age 9 interestingly). We had some good strategies at the time... just feel like we need to revisit. Maybe that would be a good topic with the teens at the next regional?

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:28:04 PM EST 2006
Nice to talk to everyone, hope to talk to you soon Seba!! Oh and mom, I've only had one low so far and it was only 74.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:28:59 PM EST 2006
I love House but it is soooooooooooooooooooooo not how life in a hospital is, nor is ER or Grey's Anatomy for that matter! Now Scrubs....that is what Medicine and Hospitals are all about LOL  LOL  LOL  LOL 

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:29:09 PM EST 2006
the biggest fear of my mom was the hypo during the night...and sometimes she didn't sleep for it. Since 5 or 6 years I am completely autonomous from that point of view, and I don't let that the bg goes down...and even if it happen, I correct it as soon as possible, by myself

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:29:39 PM EST 2006
I'll have to start watching that  Razz  Thanks!! Goodnight all.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:30:06 PM EST 2006
hey bye Marissa! glad to talk to you!

Registered User Marissa 19 dx'd 2  (71.79.40.126) Wed Dec 06 09:30:44 PM EST 2006
Ti amo!!

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:31:06 PM EST 2006
 Razz 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:31:22 PM EST 2006
Laura,
That would be a great topic. There are appropriate ways to manage anger, unfortunately, most of us keep filling the pressure cooker day in and day out until there is just no room left and POW........Old Miserable spews forth

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:32:16 PM EST 2006
Ok, Seba. Isn't it 2:00 a.m. (or later?) where you are? Why are you up so late? You're stressing us out... Are you studying?

Registered User Heidyn type 1  (72.66.232.214) Wed Dec 06 09:32:27 PM EST 2006
anyone left?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:32:30 PM EST 2006
Night Marissa, see you in Marco

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:33:06 PM EST 2006
Hi Heidyn
How's your Holiday stress level?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:33:21 PM EST 2006
Marissa goes back to school on 1/3 so we decided she has to skip Marco.

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:33:52 PM EST 2006
What does anyone wish to share regarding their own personal :Stress Free Holiday Tips"?

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:34:31 PM EST 2006
Hi Heidyn - There are 13 of us on right now. Some are being too quiet! Frown 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:34:41 PM EST 2006
Don't invite relatives?? LOL 

Registered User Heidyn type 1  (72.66.232.214) Wed Dec 06 09:35:12 PM EST 2006
too high to register
is it Jan yet?

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:35:48 PM EST 2006
stay home!

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:35:51 PM EST 2006
Brenda you are too funny! I was just going to say that my idea of 'stress free' is being nowhere near my MIL!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:35:59 PM EST 2006
Just kidding. Since we've been in OH (12.5 years), no relative has ever come for Christmas. Hmm, maybe we haven't invited often enough. Blush 

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:36:19 PM EST 2006
 LOL  now here it's about 3.30 am...I had to work on pc for all the night, and after I'e seen that there was a chat here...forunately, tomorrow is holiday in Milan (sant'Ambrogio), so I can't sleep till midday! is a pleasure for me follow this chat

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:36:30 PM EST 2006
Heidyn, is that your stress level or BG that's too high?

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:36:52 PM EST 2006
*sorry, I can sleep

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:37:51 PM EST 2006
Sant'Ambrogio - a holiday in all of Italy or just Milan? Lucky you! I think Sam is hoping the roads will be too icy for school tomorrow!

Registered User aba likes wolfes  (216.228.37.198) Wed Dec 06 09:38:07 PM EST 2006
hi

Registered User Heidyn type 1  (72.66.232.214) Wed Dec 06 09:38:25 PM EST 2006
not my bg,Brenda..but overbearing relatives(food police) do factor into the equation! LOL 

Registered User aba likes wolfes  (216.228.37.198) Wed Dec 06 09:38:26 PM EST 2006
im i spost to be in hear im 13

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:38:46 PM EST 2006
Brenda, that is a riot, and not far from very accurate. We get so "worried" about not hurting others feelings, that we hurt ourselves in the process. If you feel the need to not exclude anyone, make sure you include, those whom you do wish to be with and tactfully engage them while at the same time, not leeting the "Debbie Downers" in the family to ruin your good time.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:39:32 PM EST 2006
Sant'Ambrogio is the Saint of Milan-so is holiday just in Milan
Do you have already the snow there??

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:39:58 PM EST 2006
Seabastiano I am now totaly jealous!

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:40:02 PM EST 2006
Seriously - an answer to your question about decreasing holiday stress...
I would say at our house, it is eliminating the 'have to's. Have to have a lot of goodies around the house. Have to have people over for dinner or dessert. Have to dress up. Have to keep the house clean. Have to buy everyone under the sun presents. Have to BAKE. Have to have (name your food) on Christmas or New Year's.
Replace with 'want to's' and 'have energy for's'.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:40:29 PM EST 2006
How can "we" get other family members more involved in helping with D. care? How do "we" deal with those do-good aunts who know someone who was cured of diabetes by "walking backwards" (ask Jeff about this some day)?

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:40:44 PM EST 2006
Hi aba - You are welcome to be here. We are talking about stress over the holidays and how people deal with it. What grade are you in?

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:41:00 PM EST 2006
http://stress.about.com/od/holidaysurvivalguide/Holiday_Survival_Guide_Manage_Stress_and_Simplify_Your_Holiday_Season.htm

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:41:53 PM EST 2006
Carb Counts for Wine, Beer and Other Alcoholic Beverages
As you raise your glass and celebrate the holidays, you don't want to be stressing about your diet! Here's a handy guide to carb counts for beer, wine, and other alcololic beverages, from the Low Carb Diet site, so you can relax!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 09:42:00 PM EST 2006
Hi. Working on school stress before holiday stress. Cool 

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:42:07 PM EST 2006
That's a part of it....

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:42:17 PM EST 2006
Laura, That is so true.......you don't realy HAVE to do anything that dosn't bring you joy!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:42:25 PM EST 2006
Well, I hope that I don't need THOSE carb counts for a few more years.  LOL 

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:42:33 PM EST 2006
Seba - lots of snow an hour west of our house. Ice here. Up north, a foot of snow tonight. Down by Jeff (4 hours south), probably just rain, eh Brenda?

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:43:28 PM EST 2006
Hey Ellen - How's the crew?  Grin 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:43:39 PM EST 2006
We may get a few snow showers tonight/tomorrow. Going to be quite cold for a few days, then back to tolerable (45 deg. F.)

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 09:44:17 PM EST 2006
Crew is overall well thanks. How about yours?

Registered User Heidyn type 1  (72.66.232.214) Wed Dec 06 09:44:18 PM EST 2006
whens finals,Ellen?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:44:25 PM EST 2006
Brenda.....one of the biggest sources of stress that all of us encounter is trying to get other people to change! Impoossible! The question for you and in self managing your own stress is can you accept that they won't change, accept them for who they are in the present moment and still enjoy your holidays?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:45:51 PM EST 2006
Ann
A good motto (especially around the holidays)is: "Everything in Moderation....Including Moderation"

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:46:26 PM EST 2006
So, when someone says, "You/your child can have their diabets cured by 'eating rutabaga by 76 straight days,' should we just smile/nod and walk away, correct them kindly, or tell them they're nuts or something similar?

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:46:42 PM EST 2006
Doc--> LOL ...anyway, I think that another reason (or better, the biggest reason) of my mom's "stress" is caused by my brother, that is not very responsible of himself...several times is happen that he went very low, and my parents (and me too) were VERY scared

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 09:47:51 PM EST 2006
Hey how come I don't know about that rutabaga cure? LOL 

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:47:55 PM EST 2006
Seba - I didn't know your brother has diabetes. How old is he? No wonder your mom is worried. I would be, too. It's very frightening.

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:47:59 PM EST 2006
We have wine with holiday dinners. That's about it here, just surprised about all the liquor carbs. That would be a lot unknown guessing.
This sounds good:
http://busycooks.about.com/od/chickenbreastrecipes/r/crockpotjambala.htm

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:48:36 PM EST 2006
Laura,Brenda-->that's weird...here, in spite of it's december, it's "cold"...or better, the temperature is higer than the average of the period

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 09:48:49 PM EST 2006
Brenda ask if the protocol requires immunosuppression

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:49:29 PM EST 2006
Remember to walk away backwards....that will show em. LOL  I can't wait to hear that story! I am not suggesting condoning stupid or un healthy behavior, I am only suggesting that the degree you feel stressed by them is directly related to the degree to which you are attached to them changing......the Buddha said all suffering comes from attachment, and even over 3000 years ago he was right!

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:49:41 PM EST 2006
yeah my brother (Simone) is diabetic too...now he is 23, and he is diabetic since he was 11 years old

Registered User Ann(MI) Phil,17, dx'd 1990, pumps  (68.249.238.228) Wed Dec 06 09:50:47 PM EST 2006
good night all... Letting Phil on since he came straight home from work tonight.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:50:59 PM EST 2006
We, personally, haven't really had to deal with what I'll call "well meaning relatives," but many others do.

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:51:29 PM EST 2006
goodnight Ann!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 09:52:18 PM EST 2006
You may have covered this, but with all the grazing that goes on over the holidays, what gentle ways can we remind our children to bolus or take insulin for what they've had to eat? Or is it better (for them emotionally) to let them try to manage it themselves, and just try to correct hours later?

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:53:05 PM EST 2006
Ok - stressful here right now. Sam just came downstairs - sore throat and feeling terrible. Bg 300. Neal just left on a business trip... I just came home from NYC (we passed in the airport)... Ok Boogs - holding it a arms length (if my exhausted arms can stay up in the air)...

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:53:11 PM EST 2006
Sebastiano, parents love to worry.....especially Italian mothers about their Mimoni's. We all worry a bit. Do you realize that worry is a surogate for control. We think if we worry enough we will exert some cosmic mystical power over whatever it is that we are worrying about. Control is an illusion....the only thing / person you have any control over (in truth) is yourself.

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 09:55:16 PM EST 2006
Ketone meter handy Laura?

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:55:18 PM EST 2006
Another way to manage stress Laura is to reach out those arms and ask for support. I would ask everyone to send Laura a silent blessing and an equally loving bolus of energy to Sam for a speedy recovery and a quiet evening for both of them.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:56:21 PM EST 2006
Ellen, after all these years, you'd be surprised by what our kids have learned from us (good and bad!). Marissa often babysits a 7 year old girl and her 12 year old sister. The younger girl has D. and uses a pump. They were over here one day over the summer and Marissa gave them some kind of candy to have. She walked away for a min., saw the younger girl eating and said, "Did you bolus for that?" I burst out laughing, hearing myself say that very thing to Marissa many times over the last 7 years! I think she was actually surprised that she had said it. LOL 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 09:58:22 PM EST 2006
Hi Ellen
That is a tough one and I think much depends on the childs age, but the more wiggle room you give them to become more and more self managing, the more independent they will become and more likely to do well long term.....it also realy gives them a feeling of reciprocated trust....which after having had the pleasure of working with all your kids foor a long time now, all they realy want from you is love and to feel as if you trust them.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 09:58:26 PM EST 2006
Wait a sec., Laura, wasn't Sam thinking "snow day" for tomorrow. Is that a "real" sore throat? Did he dip his finger in the oj before testing? Just kidding, of course. Hope it's nothing serious. My cold lasted about 6 days--one day of sore throat then congestion. Jeff's is lasting a week longer...

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 09:58:34 PM EST 2006
Thanks, Boogs. I appreciate everyone's good thoughts and energy... and just reading your words made me feel better. Deep breath. Just sent Sam to bed. His bgs jump at even the thought of illness, so it doesn't surprise me that his bg is 300 if he has a sore throat.
Why do kids always get sick when a spouse is out of town?

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 09:59:35 PM EST 2006
Doc-->yes, sure: I think that if I have a good care about my diabetes, my parents have a good merit of it...they teached me how to have patience with it...if I have to say the truth, my mom trust me blindfold...but she is much ore worried for my brother, in spite of he's 23! it should be the contrary, at the most... Rolling Eyes 

Registered User Doc Boogs   (68.81.213.69) Wed Dec 06 10:00:11 PM EST 2006
Well everyone I want to thank you for allowing me to be a part of this chat. mye-mail is bulgarellir@casep.com for anyone who wants to stay connected. Look forard to seeing you all soon
Blessings
Boogs

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 10:01:14 PM EST 2006
Thanks for your advice, Doc. Hopefully, we will all stay calm and focused and not be stressed. We just have to get our families to cooperate. Smile 

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 10:01:28 PM EST 2006
Thank you Doc Boogs.

Registered User Laura B Sam's mom, 16, pumper  (68.255.243.212) Wed Dec 06 10:01:48 PM EST 2006
Boogs - Thank you so much for hosting our chat tonight... and for all of your support and love for our families and kids! You're the best!
For anyone who wishes to stay and chat, this room will stay open for a bit longer. G'night everyone!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 19, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.252) Wed Dec 06 10:02:04 PM EST 2006
Goodnight all.
Ellen, good luck finding good rutabaga recipes--at least it's something Zack will eat!

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 10:02:28 PM EST 2006
goodnight and thanks, Boogs!

Registered User Sebastiano Italian, 19 years old, diabetic from 1991  (151.37.180.232) Wed Dec 06 10:03:20 PM EST 2006
goodnight Brenda, goodnight Laura! nice to have talked to you!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Mom of Zack, quilt 271  (64.12.117.13) Wed Dec 06 10:03:42 PM EST 2006
Brenda, are those encapsulated rutabagas that cure diabetes? I hear it requires beano! LOL....

Thanks Dr. Boogs, for everything.

Laura - best wishes to you and Sam

and to everyone else.

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