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Parenting and Diabetes Management-Without Headaches

On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, Joe Solowiejczyk hosted a chat about Parenting and Diabetes Management-Without Headaches.


Registered User Moderator   (server) Wed Oct 19 08:00:01 PM EDT 2005
Our chat about Parenting and Diabetes Management-Without Headaches with Joe Solowiejczyk starts at 9pm Eastern.

Registered User kayla   (71.2.202.138) Wed Oct 19 08:20:55 PM EDT 2005
hello

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 08:46:45 PM EDT 2005
I have a headache now ;-)

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:47:04 PM EDT 2005
Hi, I'm a little early - and a slow typist, so I'll try my hardest to keep up with the pace Cool 

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:47:38 PM EDT 2005
Take 2 aspirin and go to bed! Smile 

Registered User Moderator   (server) Wed Oct 19 08:50:01 PM EDT 2005
Our chat about Parenting and Diabetes Management-Without Headaches starts in 10 min in the 'Guest Chat' room.

Registered User Patty Dylan 13, dx'd @10, pumping, celiac  (24.66.23.165) Wed Oct 19 08:51:38 PM EDT 2005
Hello

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 08:52:17 PM EDT 2005
Hi Joe and Ellen. Just waiting for others so we can get started.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:52:21 PM EDT 2005
Hello to everyone in the chat room-welcome!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 08:52:41 PM EDT 2005
I took 2 Excedrin...will stay awake but hopefully lose the headache.

Hi Joe. It was DELIGHTFUL to meet you at the CWD conference this summer. I'm not sure who had more fun, you or the kids!

Registered User Tamara(MI), FKA Yaelsmom Yael, 5 on Oct. 29th, dx'd @ 15 mos  (152.163.100.134) Wed Oct 19 08:52:43 PM EDT 2005
hi!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 08:52:51 PM EDT 2005
Hi Brenda and Patty

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:52:57 PM EDT 2005
Hi All

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 08:52:58 PM EDT 2005
Hi Tamara.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:53:35 PM EDT 2005
Ellen-you know I did!

Registered User Tamara(MI), FKA Yaelsmom Yael, 5 on Oct. 29th, dx'd @ 15 mos  (152.163.100.134) Wed Oct 19 08:53:40 PM EDT 2005
hey Ellen!

Registered User Patty Dylan 13, dx'd @10, pumping, celiac  (24.66.23.165) Wed Oct 19 08:53:46 PM EDT 2005
Dylan had a migraine today and yesterday does that count.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 08:54:05 PM EDT 2005
Is that Leslie V. formerly of The Netherlands?

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:54:43 PM EDT 2005
Hi Brenda!!! Yep, it's me

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:54:45 PM EDT 2005
Sure-but we're talking about them giving you headaches Grin 

Registered User Patty Dylan 13, dx'd @10, pumping, celiac  (24.66.23.165) Wed Oct 19 08:55:17 PM EDT 2005
Joe today they were ALL giving me a headache. I have 3 teens.

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:55:27 PM EDT 2005
How is Marissa doing? And you and Jeff??

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 08:55:32 PM EDT 2005
Good evening  Smile  I'm glad you're on already, Joe. I didn't remember telling you when/how to sign on, or who might be there! I'll be moderating the chat tonight... will just stay in the background unless you need assistance with anything...At 10:00, I'll announce the close of the chat. That will be the official end, although the room will stay open for another 45 minutes or so for those who wish to continue to talk.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 08:55:45 PM EDT 2005
Long time, no hear from. Hope it's going well. What's Douglas doing these days? Marissa is a college freshman, studying nursing.

Registered User Tamara(MI), FKA Yaelsmom Yael, 5 on Oct. 29th, dx'd @ 15 mos  (152.163.100.134) Wed Oct 19 08:56:07 PM EDT 2005
Amen to that Patty!

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 08:56:14 PM EDT 2005
Leslie!!!!  Grin 

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 08:56:15 PM EDT 2005
At what age do we stop worrying? Rolling Eyes 

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 08:56:17 PM EDT 2005
Geesh, I thought I'd be early. ;)

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:56:19 PM EDT 2005
Sounds great-Nice to be with you

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:56:30 PM EDT 2005
Douglas is still a senior in high school ~ he lost a year in NL

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:56:49 PM EDT 2005
Laura!!!  Razz 

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:57:12 PM EDT 2005
Ellen-I don't think there's a ceiling to that one-it's in the nature of being a mother

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 08:58:09 PM EDT 2005
Hey Rhon - Never too early with this bunch! We can blame it on Joe... LOL 

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:58:21 PM EDT 2005
The trick is to worry, to not let that get in the way of the rest of your life and theirs and get them to do the right thing re diabetes management

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 08:58:47 PM EDT 2005
Joe, how would you like to structure this evening? Just let people ask questions or bring up topics... or do you have a different structure in mind?

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:59:07 PM EDT 2005
There's no law against worrying-it's how that worrying transltes into the rest of your life that's the issue

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:59:08 PM EDT 2005
Douglas unfortunately does not take much responsibility for his diabetes...

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 08:59:12 PM EDT 2005
Ah, I see. Well, the bulldog & I are just sitting here waiting. :)

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 08:59:35 PM EDT 2005
Laura-that sounds good-let people ask questions and we can go with the flow

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 08:59:42 PM EDT 2005
We try to let him be more "adult" but he lets EVERYTHING slide!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 08:59:55 PM EDT 2005
Joe, this past week I read a post by a teen who used to be very positive and accepting of her diabetes, but when she got to college, she felt extremely isolated and depressed about the diabetes. What can we do to prevent our children from experiencing this same level of isolation and depression? Or should we prepare them that if they feel it, they should immediately seek help?

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:00:07 PM EDT 2005
leslie-how have you handled that?

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:00:54 PM EDT 2005
I don't think there's anything you can to prevent it-the trick here is to give them the tools to manage it once it hits

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:01:23 PM EDT 2005
And yes, you should help them feel that it's okay to ask for help-not a failure

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:01:27 PM EDT 2005
Rhon, if you love bulldogs, go here to get a smile
www.theslurps.com

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:01:33 PM EDT 2005
We try to have him notice when he needs more test strips, insulin. He goes to an adult endo but does not follow through with the tests he is supposed to do: keep records, 24-hr urine, etc...

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:01:49 PM EDT 2005
Joe, I was a twice a night blood checker until about 10 months ago, then once a night, then tried to make Marissa do it herself, knowing that I wasn't going to be at college with her. We talk to her pretty often and I deliberately don't always ask, "Are you testing at night? How are your blood sugars?, etc." I do need to see if she needs strips and insulin, but I am waiting to see if she brings it up first. It's a mere 35-40 min. ride to school, so I can always drive down there if nec.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:02:10 PM EDT 2005
leslie-I would treat his not taking care of his diabetes the same way you would treat him wioth not doing homework, being disrespectful, etc

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:02:43 PM EDT 2005
I think feelings of isolation and depression are fairly common even without diabetes. Being away from home for the first time - and the stress of school and trying to manage your own life - it's really hard. I'm seeing some of that with Carolyn and the kids in her dorm (just got back from a weekend at NYU). It surprised me.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:03:22 PM EDT 2005
I think it's important to incorporate diabetes management behavior into the rules of being in the family-not as something special

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:03:36 PM EDT 2005
I remember a mom once saying that older teen parents can always dangle those car keys and take away driving privileges. Smile 

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:04:00 PM EDT 2005
Douglas will not go away to college until he can prove that he can take care of himself!

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:04:15 PM EDT 2005
Douglas doesn't drive yet...

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:04:28 PM EDT 2005
Brenda-absolutely!!! If they wanna behave like 5 year oldsthen they get treated lioke one

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:04:33 PM EDT 2005
good evening !! Grin 

Registered User Tamara(MI), FKA Yaelsmom Yael, 5 on Oct. 29th, dx'd @ 15 mos  (152.163.100.134) Wed Oct 19 09:04:53 PM EDT 2005
Joe, my son is young and things have been smooth sailing so far in regards to his adjustment. But I just can't help feeling sometimes like the whole bottom is going to fall out and all of the wonderful preparation I've done for his self esteem and adjustment is going to crash.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:04:58 PM EDT 2005
Is there something else he values, but could do without? Video games? Skateboard?

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:05:06 PM EDT 2005
Hi Joe joining in from California hope all is well

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.230) Wed Oct 19 09:05:09 PM EDT 2005
Hi all

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:05:19 PM EDT 2005
leslie-that makes sense-if you're working harder than them,something's wrong

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:05:45 PM EDT 2005
Julia-it is thanks, nice to hear from you.

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:05:49 PM EDT 2005
Yes, the computer ~ but then he claims he needs it for schoolwork. Which he does SOMEtimes... That's a good diea though!

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:05:55 PM EDT 2005
Diamond does very well taking care of her diabetes, but she has absolutely no interest in her site changes. She did at one point for about a week & that was it. She's only 11, but I'd like to get her slowly moving toward doing it all herself, or at least be able to.

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:05:57 PM EDT 2005
Andrew has been having some lows and I always wonder if he wakes up at 74 has he gone much lower in the early morning?

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:06:08 PM EDT 2005
Welcome to the new folks. Joe's format tonight is 'let loose' - ask anything you'd like and he'll try to keep the various threads moving forward. Smile 

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:06:15 PM EDT 2005
thank you Joe nice to chat with you

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.230) Wed Oct 19 09:06:29 PM EDT 2005
have you explained to him what exactly will happen if he does not take care of himself

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:06:43 PM EDT 2005
thank you Laura  Smile 

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:06:43 PM EDT 2005
Most kids know that they have to go to school, that they have to do their homework, etc.-they don't have to like it htey just have to do it. YOU guys don't like going to work every day, but you go!

Registered User Naomi CA, Mom of Jordan, 15 dx at 8  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:06:49 PM EDT 2005
I am in the same "boat". Joe, do you recommend diabetic kids stay closer to home when attending college? I don't want him living next door but I would love him to get a great college experience and be close enough if he needs our assistance. Am I being overly mothering?

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:07:15 PM EDT 2005
Rhon - Sam didn't do site changes himself until last year. He was 14.

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:07:16 PM EDT 2005
Hi Cyndy! Yes, he knows "all that stuff" but it doesn't seem to faze him...

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.230) Wed Oct 19 09:07:19 PM EDT 2005
I think we give our kids far to much responsiblity for taking care of themselves all the time.

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:08:08 PM EDT 2005
Hi. Just listening to "what's to come..."
Are there things anyone would do differently at 8, 9, 10 years old that would have helped the teen years more? Things you are sorry you did in the teen years that you got burned on?

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:08:36 PM EDT 2005
Somehow you have to get them to realize that they're special but not so special that they can break the rules about something so importatant. Kids don't negotiate with the oncologist if they have to have chemo-they do it. Too much negotiating makes the kids crazy-and non-adherent

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:08:38 PM EDT 2005
Cyndy I aggree with you on that

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:08:41 PM EDT 2005
Oh, so I shouldn't worry? I was figuring she's had her pump now for 2 years and really oughtta know. Especially if she wants to stay at my moms (3 hours away) for a week or whatever.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:09:00 PM EDT 2005
Rhon, Marissa didn't want to do her own sites when she started pumping (beginning of 6th gr.) Then, should wouldn't use her buttocks. Finally, a few months went by and she tried using that area and realized it was completely painless. Buttocks sites are the choice for bikini season. Smile 

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.230) Wed Oct 19 09:09:17 PM EDT 2005
I had the terrible experience this summer of my boyfirend who also had type one being found dib. Ben became hypervigilant but has relax too much now again

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:09:52 PM EDT 2005
Naomi-I reccommend that you prepare to go as far away as he wants to go-that takes alot of work

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:10:32 PM EDT 2005
Does anyone else see a lot of underlines?

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:10:33 PM EDT 2005
Diamond uses her arm, belly, & butt, but she has a knot on her belly right now that we're waiting to go away. She doesn't mind the rotation (although finger rotation is a different story).

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.230) Wed Oct 19 09:10:37 PM EDT 2005
did I get sensored. My name is there but the post isn't

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:10:37 PM EDT 2005
We help Andrew a lot with his diabetes care he was dx at 20 months and it is all he knows. He can take care of himself at school, but he has enough to worry about with homework, etc. so why not take care of them now he is 9

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:10:42 PM EDT 2005
naomi-sorry-typo-that you prepare him to go as far away as he wants to go Grin 

Registered User Patty Dylan 13, dx'd @10, pumping, celiac  (24.66.23.165) Wed Oct 19 09:10:46 PM EDT 2005
haha yeah I thought I did that underline thingy

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:11:05 PM EDT 2005
Yes, Ellen. I thought I hit something...

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:11:16 PM EDT 2005
Jeff says it must be something cyndy typed.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:11:56 PM EDT 2005
Julia-it's a thing of balncing that. Not too much and not too litlle, sensitivity and compassion as well as training him to get the job done-you don't do allof his homework for him, do you?

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:12:41 PM EDT 2005
Trish, the things I learned to do were to praise and catch him doing the right things with the diabetes. Thank him for checking and bite my tongue when bg is high. The things I did that were wrong were asking him as soon as he woke up or as soon as he got home froms school about the bgs...very important to ask about the other things as you would any other child...(then of course try to sneak in a way to obtain info re diabetes)

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:12:53 PM EDT 2005
When kids act out, ie, not taking care of their diabetes, they are asking for help and structure-not to be left alone to handle it themselves

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:13:01 PM EDT 2005
Joe, Naomi's going to find out where YOU live and send her son there. LOL 

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:13:10 PM EDT 2005
leslie had to go cook dinner

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:13:17 PM EDT 2005
this is nic

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:13:23 PM EDT 2005
no way, but he does all of his care at school and we have a Health Clerk and everyone is trained on his care and glucagon You are funny Joe glad you are aboard  Grin 

Registered User leslie mom of douglas 18, dx @9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:13:24 PM EDT 2005
her non-diabetic son

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:13:36 PM EDT 2005
A question I"m I not allowed to talk then about how Ben handled his testing after what ahppened to my bf

Registered User kemj mom of Morgan, 11, dx'd at 11  (4.238.224.250) Wed Oct 19 09:13:39 PM EDT 2005
My daughter was only dx'd in August. She seems to be more worried about everything. Her school work is suffering. Is this normal?

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:14:00 PM EDT 2005
Cool-I'd love it-I never have any headaches so I coulod use one

Registered User mavis nelson   (24.4.47.139) Wed Oct 19 09:14:17 PM EDT 2005
My son's lows in the nightime do not wake him up , so I still test him once during the night. Do you suggest that he sets an alarm to wake himself up to test when he goes away to college?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:14:23 PM EDT 2005
You can't cook for her? LOL  You staying to find out how to help your brother?

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:14:30 PM EDT 2005
ellen, i dont sven ask him his bg when he gets home from school anymore.. i kind of just check his meter when he's not looking..lol...

Registered User Naomi CA, Mom of Jordan, 15 dx at 8  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:14:37 PM EDT 2005
We are very prepared from a medical stand point. He will always be near a great medical facility. I just worry about emergencies, etc. By the way Joe, we've met you a few times on the west coast and you are EXCELLENT with teenagers.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:15:08 PM EDT 2005
A very easy way to handle it is to set it up like a weekly report card.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:15:30 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Naomi

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:15:41 PM EDT 2005
Mavis, how old is your son?

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:15:48 PM EDT 2005
Stacey, :-)

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:15:56 PM EDT 2005
May I ask how old your son is Stcey

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:16:00 PM EDT 2005
That's how we do it Joe. But she does 0 site changes.

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:16:09 PM EDT 2005
Joe helped us with our pump training class and he is excellent with children I second that  Smile 

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:16:23 PM EDT 2005
yup

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:16:39 PM EDT 2005
The parents should set the behavioral expectations, artioculate the consequences for not doiung,and let them make the decisions-but you guys have to hold fast and stick to your guns with the consequences

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:16:52 PM EDT 2005
jesse is 13.5

Registered User mavis nelson   (24.4.47.139) Wed Oct 19 09:16:54 PM EDT 2005
My son is 18, diagnosed at 12.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:17:01 PM EDT 2005
I was going to ask a slight variation on Mavis' question... at what point should a parent transition the nighttime testing over to the teen? Just before college? The senior year? Take turns? We do Sam's testing now (1-3 times per night, depending). It's exhausting. I'd hate for him to go to school exhausted. SOMEONE needs to test him... but I don't think it's fair for him to do this cold turkey in college. Your thoughts?

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:17:21 PM EDT 2005
Very nice of you to step in Nic. :)

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:17:33 PM EDT 2005
uh huh

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:17:55 PM EDT 2005
i dont think tobey takes good care of him diabetes

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:18:16 PM EDT 2005
Talk with him about it and get some input from him-you should talk openly about being intersted in transitioning. I'm \moving in with you guys Grin 

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:18:43 PM EDT 2005
The nursing agency that goes in to do Ben's insulin when I can't was telling me that they are called every fall to teach the college kids coming into town how to test and do their own injections

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:18:59 PM EDT 2005
nic-it's hard to watch someone you love not do the right thing, isn't it?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:19:00 PM EDT 2005
Mavis, does your son have frequent nighttime lows?

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:19:35 PM EDT 2005
College kids who don't do their own injections? Wow! Diamond wasn't allowed to leave the hospital before she did her own at age 9.

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:19:38 PM EDT 2005
yep

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:20:13 PM EDT 2005
Laura-did you get my respon e? I think families should talk about that and come up with a solution that works and involves everyone's input

Registered User Beth (IA) Rea 20, dx'd 7/98, pumping  (66.172.252.225) Wed Oct 19 09:20:27 PM EDT 2005
Hi all, we were lucky when Rea started college. Her roommates mother has type 1 and wears a pump. She knew what to do if Rea went low--how to use the glucagon or whatever. Never had to tho.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:20:30 PM EDT 2005
I had a tenant who was in college & 19 at dx & got her pump so she started out doing her own site changes.

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:20:41 PM EDT 2005
tobey doesnt care about anything

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:20:41 PM EDT 2005
Joe, in your opinion, does instilling a sense of "doing the right thing," with life in general, help kids take one this responsibility better?

Registered User mavis nelson   (24.4.47.139) Wed Oct 19 09:20:45 PM EDT 2005
My son has a low nimber about once a week.(He is on lantus and humalog injections.) Will not do the pump thing...

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:20:49 PM EDT 2005
including his diabetes

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:20:52 PM EDT 2005
nic-that's a real lesson in powerlessness

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:21:16 PM EDT 2005
Yes, I did. I'm chewing on it. I guess I feel guilty asking Sam to do that (to give up his sleep) one minute before he needs to. Of course, I don't beat up myself for not getting sleep. I'm too tired to...

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:21:31 PM EDT 2005
Trish-yes, as long as diabetes "chores" are treated like everything else

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:21:51 PM EDT 2005
How do we keep the siblings from seeking negative attention in reaction to all the attention our children with diabetes receive?

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:22:16 PM EDT 2005
Without too much "emotion" you mean, JOe?

Registered User Beth (IA) Rea 20, dx'd 7/98, pumping  (66.172.252.225) Wed Oct 19 09:22:19 PM EDT 2005
Laura is there a reason you check up to 3 times a night?

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:22:28 PM EDT 2005
Kids not taking care of themselves are sorta testing the waters to see how much you'll let them get away with

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:22:34 PM EDT 2005
Do you feel like that Nic?

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:23:10 PM EDT 2005
like tobey doesnt care about anything?

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:23:18 PM EDT 2005
Joe at what age do yu suggest during most of the resposiblity over to the child

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:23:39 PM EDT 2005
No, that he gets so much attention because of diabetes.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:23:48 PM EDT 2005
No, I mean like most kids know what would happen to them if they broke curfew-but the consequences seem much more fuzzy when it come to not being responsible about diabetes

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:23:51 PM EDT 2005
no

Registered User kemj mom of Morgan, 11, dx'd at 11  (4.238.224.250) Wed Oct 19 09:24:00 PM EDT 2005
Any suggestions for my family? We are just starting with all of this stuff. Sometimes I feel clueless.
::confused

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:24:06 PM EDT 2005
people at school call him diabetes

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:24:28 PM EDT 2005
One important thing I've learned about teens is that, on their own, they choose to stay up until 1 or 2 a.m. so they can test then. Then, when mom/dad gets up, they can check around 7 or so. BUT, when they have commitments, like jobs and/or school, they need to learn to "time shift" so they get enough sleep. They may have to set three alarms (whatever it takes to get them up) to test their BG. Maybe Mavis' son will be ok doing this. For now, he knows Mavis will do it because she's mom.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:24:52 PM EDT 2005
Cyndy-gradually, throughout the course of adolescence, I believe it's importatnt for them to be able to leve home-but that's a very individual thing

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:24:55 PM EDT 2005
kemj, we felt that way the first year also

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:25:08 PM EDT 2005
they will get used to no sleep

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:25:15 PM EDT 2005
Absolutely there's a reason. If I check Sam at midnight and he's 45, we treat. We wait a half hour or so - recheck. Hopefully he's up. I then want to make sure he's not going to 1) drop further or 2) rebound... so we test a third time. Sometimes a fourth. Whatever needs to be done.

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:25:19 PM EDT 2005
builds character

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:25:53 PM EDT 2005
That's good Nic, you seem to be a caring boy. Calling him diabetes, oh my. He is Tobey, not diabetic Tobey.

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:26:11 PM EDT 2005
Laura, we learned at the conference this summer that we don't need to check at night as much as we were. it changes from week to week, some week twice a wk sometimes everynight, so it seems

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:26:14 PM EDT 2005
nic-are you a Marine Seargent? Grin 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:26:25 PM EDT 2005
nic, do you think Douglas/Tobey (forgot about that nickname) is just tired of having diabets?

Registered User nic brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:26:45 PM EDT 2005
maybe

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:26:52 PM EDT 2005
a daily grind, but worth it

Registered User Beth (IA) Rea 20, dx'd 7/98, pumping  (66.172.252.225) Wed Oct 19 09:27:07 PM EDT 2005
I usually didn't check Rea at night unless she had been playing sports that day or was lower than I liked when she went to bed. Then if she was low, I tested again and treated, etc. but I did not check every night for the last 7 1/2 yrs.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:27:27 PM EDT 2005
The truth is that we all need healthcare professionals to help us help our children get the most out of their lives without sc=acrificing good managment

Registered User skatesnowbass brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:27:41 PM EDT 2005
i have to listen to tbeys music untill around 12 PM

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:27:59 PM EDT 2005
nic, do you try to help Tobey with his diabetes? Remind him to have his "stuff" when you go out to "play" or whatever it is?

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:28:10 PM EDT 2005
ha ha Joe, my dh was a Marine Seargent. :)

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:28:16 PM EDT 2005
That's true, Julia. Some weeks are very test-intensive. Others are much much easier. But when Sam is all over the place, we need to test a lot and try to keep the swings as small as possible.

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:28:22 PM EDT 2005
Hi Joe. I was wondering if you have any advice on keeping the night numbers under control. Sometimes Kyle is 200 at midnight and he will be ok or another night he will drop.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:28:35 PM EDT 2005
I'd rather have my child do it, get optimal metabolic control, and understand why later it if I had to make a choice

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:28:41 PM EDT 2005
Does Tobey play in a band or do you mean his stereo?

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:28:45 PM EDT 2005
Joe, why isn't the emotional health of the patient with diabetes taken just as seriously as the day to day care and NUMBERS when it comes to quarterly visits?

Registered User skatesnowbass brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:28:55 PM EDT 2005
his stereo

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:29:24 PM EDT 2005
Joe how much to you think siblings should be involved with the care of the child with D.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:29:35 PM EDT 2005
Kim-do some gluco WATCH OR OTHER SENSOR THINGS OR THE OLD FASHIONED WAY-DO A BLOOD SUGAR EVERY HOUR DURING THE NIGHT

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:30:46 PM EDT 2005
I never thought it was fair to ask my the siblings to make life and death decisions for her, and if anything happened, I wouldn't want them to feel responsible. I have only taught her how to get help quick.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:30:49 PM EDT 2005
We have 0 problems with Diamond's sugar at night. None. Has never had the night time lows.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:31:05 PM EDT 2005
CYNDY-AS MUCH AS THEY'D LIKE TO BE. They certainly need to be included in the intial stuff-at the time of diagnosis, particularly, anout how they fell about the diagnosis

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:31:16 PM EDT 2005
Another question... for teenage boys who don't take their insulin and routinely run in the 300's (we meet quite a few of these kids at conferences) - is it appropriate to talk about ED? Or is that not something that you'd bring up (no pun intended) with them at this point? Serious question.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:31:31 PM EDT 2005
Joe, we're all anticipating those Guardian and Navigator devices so we don't have to get up every night!

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:32:03 PM EDT 2005
Kim-you don't have to do that all the time-but every so often-and share the load with someone when you're doiung it

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:32:22 PM EDT 2005
Kim that is what I had to do recently with Ben. I couldn't figre out why he was waking up in the mid teens 250 to 360 and was good when I tested in the night. I slightly changed the times and discovered almost every night we had number 4 - 70 or below

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:32:24 PM EDT 2005
Rhon no lows? Is there any specific rutine you fallow?

Registered User skatesnowbass brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:33:18 PM EDT 2005
tobey is always low in the morning

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:33:34 PM EDT 2005
No, I don't think that's the way to go-I think it's more approapriate toi start with asking the parents how they let their kids get away with being soi irresponsu=ible

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:33:41 PM EDT 2005
Rhon - Do you test at night so that you know that?

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:34:00 PM EDT 2005
Diamond's D always tends to run high instead of low if it's not in range. She's had lows in the daytime (though rarely), but no night time lows. We don't follow anything strictly at all. Usually make sure she has a good number before bed though.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:34:09 PM EDT 2005
Ok. We'll let you do that next summer.  Grin 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:34:13 PM EDT 2005
Joe, some people don't have anyone with whom they can share the load. Many single/divorced parents out there/here.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:34:56 PM EDT 2005
Yes Laura, I have. Per Dr's orders. Then finally, he said forget about it.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:35:04 PM EDT 2005
Kaura-my answer was serious as well. I think for every acting child you have parents who can't get it together about the disciplining around diabetes

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:35:52 PM EDT 2005
Yup-I know that-and in that case, the thing to focuus on is developing support networks

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:36:14 PM EDT 2005
I support that, Joe. If they got a dozen speeding tickets, I doubt we would brush it off as easily as some people brush off diabetes care.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:36:20 PM EDT 2005
I'm jealous, Rhon!

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:36:45 PM EDT 2005
Oh Joe, I have a friend that has ZERO control over her son's diabetes. I mean zero. He's 4 and rules that house. And his numbers are all over the charts! I can't even begin to understand it.

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:37:07 PM EDT 2005
Kyle has been diabetic for four years and I did not sleep one whole night since then. So Rhon I'm impressed.

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:37:18 PM EDT 2005
Joe how do you suggest we build those support network

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:37:22 PM EDT 2005
That's why when I work with single parents I really bend over to give them ny shoulder to lean on and focus on really inviting anyone in their lives to the educational training seesions

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:37:30 PM EDT 2005
he he I've been told that before Laura. :) I had a friend in WV who's son had nighttime lows/siezures, it was sad.

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:37:33 PM EDT 2005
I think there is a fuzzy line between discipline and punishment with diabetes. How do you distinguish appropriate discipline from being too harsh?

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:37:37 PM EDT 2005
I know your answer was serious - that's why I asked about talking with the teen directly. Some of these parents are just so very helpless. They come across as being very with-it and on top of things, and then the more you talk with them, the more you wonder what planet they live on. How could you not know if your child tests or takes insulin? How could you not know their pump regimen? On and on. It amazes me. In a sad way.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:38:26 PM EDT 2005
By inviting everyone-colleagues from work, friends, etc-to the seesions

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:39:04 PM EDT 2005
I think one of the hardest things is dealing with a toddler/younger child with diabetes and they are misbehaving. Are they merely misbehaving or are they low or high?

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:39:08 PM EDT 2005
Laura, did you read the piece in What's New this week - in Ireland they think kids should handle it all before age 12 :-(

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:39:17 PM EDT 2005
I have tried that but it has not worked

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:39:18 PM EDT 2005
Family members & our sitter came to Diamond's.

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:39:31 PM EDT 2005
Trish I alway check him first and then punish him. It's almost funny sometimes.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:39:33 PM EDT 2005
Laura-I know-it's ironic that you have to get a license to shoot ducks but not to be a parent!

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:40:01 PM EDT 2005
That's hard with a teen, too, Brenda!  LOL 

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:40:28 PM EDT 2005
That is what the nurses think that go into ben for me. I think he is far to young to have to take all that responsibility

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:40:35 PM EDT 2005
Yes, Brenda, but this one has no control of him or his diabetes. She makes excuses for everything. He eats what he wants when he wants, how much he wants, she has to chase him down for a shot, and that's when he's acting "normal".

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:40:56 PM EDT 2005
cyndy--one mom around here got some names and phone numbers fro the JDRF, I think, call them and got a group together. I think there were about 8 families to start, now about 25. Try your local CDA office, assuming there is one.

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:41:01 PM EDT 2005
I asked my church about starting a support group. It is a huge church, surely I am not the only parent with a kid with T1D. I am still waiting on a response! Confused 

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:41:06 PM EDT 2005
Kim, we do the same thing, only because Diamond's always a good kid, but if she gets snappy, I know she's high. :)

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:41:26 PM EDT 2005
Laura-- Allison ahs a friend who was dx'd at 18. Hid parents are totally not involved... He was on N and R for 2 years, and never went to a dr. Finally saw a new endo last summer and is on Lantus and H.. He takes his L everyday, but rarely checks ... and drinks beer all night... and never checks.. h=id he feels low, he'll eat a sandwich without checking...

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:41:31 PM EDT 2005
Brenda H. that happended to me when Andrew was 22 months dx at 20 months, I really scolded him and then checked him and he was only 54, it was a moment I will never forget. But we learned from our educator and dr that you much continue to discipline them. It has got much easier once he came out of the toddler years

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:42:16 PM EDT 2005
I HAVE THOUGHT OF RUNNING AN AD IN THE NEWPAPET AND TRY TO GET A GROUP OF SOME SORT STARTED HERE.

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:42:34 PM EDT 2005
Lisa, I once put an ad in the local community happenings section of the newspaper "free support group for parents of small children with diabetes...please call..." and got a fairly good response. Also had a local paper write a story about it...try that too.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:42:52 PM EDT 2005
Stacey, I knew a college boy like that, but that was after years of having diabetes, he could really read his body.

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:42:53 PM EDT 2005
Julia -- that's what my endo told me. You still discipline the behavior and treat the blood sugar.

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:43:18 PM EDT 2005
JDRF in Canada also seems to be an agency in its infancy here.

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:43:25 PM EDT 2005
Lisa Marte we started a suport group in a small town in Missouri at our church it was great University students down to age 2 hope it works for you suppport groups are #1 in my book

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:43:41 PM EDT 2005
Ellen - where in FL are you? I am in Orlando

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:43:44 PM EDT 2005
Laura-I'd love to do something on this at your next conference-the parentin thing

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:44:18 PM EDT 2005
Lisa Marte yes it is very hard to do as we meet families with toddler dx children but it has to be done or you will have you know what on wheels :grin::

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:44:41 PM EDT 2005
Joe sounds great wonderful idea Smile 

Registered User skatesnowbass brother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 09:44:42 PM EDT 2005
dinner time

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:44:56 PM EDT 2005
rhonda, not this one... he is just denying it.. and will end up in the hospital...

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:45:21 PM EDT 2005
Well, Rhon, unless you've had to chase down a toddler who doesn't want a shot. Frown  I don't want to come across as bragging or acting as if I know it all (because I sure don't), but I've been through toddlerhood, puberty and several teen years, all with diabetes. I can't say toddlerhood is worse than the teen years or vice-versa. Throwing diabetes into the scenario makes all those years extra bad. Toddlers can't tell you how they feel and teen girls are EXTRA nasty at certain times of the month.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:45:45 PM EDT 2005
It's hard to get it all in over the net-and parents should know that in my role as a clinikcal manager for ANIMAS I go all over the country speaking to parent groups for free-on Animas's tab-because they think it's importatnt

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:46:11 PM EDT 2005
Yes, you guys are rekindling my desire to start a group in my area. I mean CWD is awesome, but you can't come over!

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:46:47 PM EDT 2005
I think it is sad. The clinic we used to attend had a few meeting for a support group of cwd but stopped because they wanted to fouc on teenagers not kids. I know ben sure could have used some interaction with other kids.

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:47:21 PM EDT 2005
But you can sit on your toddler...can't sit on your 6' 180 pound teen Eek 

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:47:38 PM EDT 2005
Ah, that's sad Stacey. Yes, Brenda, I totally understand. Diamond was 9 at dx, so we didn't have to go through the toddler part, but to me it's very sad. When you meet Diamond, you meet Diamond. When you meet this kid, it's not Kyle, it's Diabetic Kyle. The mom has no control.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:47:45 PM EDT 2005
Joe - We're working on the summer FFL schedule now. You'll have some time on Friday with the parents. You can let me know what you'd like the topics to be, ok? I think I carved out two sessions for you. Thursday you're working directly with the younger kids (per lots of requests)! Smile 

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:47:48 PM EDT 2005
we attend a group that one of our local hospitals runs during the school year Oct-May different compaines sponsor it and come and speak many things have been shared about school, insurance, emotions, staying sane, etc.

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:47:53 PM EDT 2005
Joe is your fouc Teens?

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:48:13 PM EDT 2005
Sorry, Lisa, but I think FL is NOT on my itinerary for the next week or so. Reminds me that all you Floridians better stock up on water, food, batteries, etc. and dont' forget those diabetes supplies (just in case Wilma heads your way  Cry ).

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:48:20 PM EDT 2005
Laura-excellent-I'm excited about that

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:48:51 PM EDT 2005
Stacey - Or dead. There was a teen I know who passed away a week ago from DKA. Kids have all kinds of stresses and challenges - sometimes diabetes is the least of them.  Frown 

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:49:04 PM EDT 2005
Cyndy-What? didn't get your question

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:49:20 PM EDT 2005
Oh come on Brenda! Don't you want to come for a swim in my pool?  LOL 

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:49:20 PM EDT 2005
Laura, how about giving him some time with Jesses's younger teen group...

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:49:31 PM EDT 2005
I think it's: Is your focus teens?

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:49:52 PM EDT 2005
I'll come over. But maybe not this weekend with Wilma coming.

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:49:54 PM EDT 2005
Joe is your main focus dealing with teens or all children?

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:50:11 PM EDT 2005
Laura re the teen with dka :-(

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:50:19 PM EDT 2005
Oh-Abosolutely-that's my specialty! Grin  The more difficult the more fun Grin 

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (70.51.115.87) Wed Oct 19 09:50:46 PM EDT 2005
why are there not more services for younger kids

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:50:56 PM EDT 2005
My focus is on all kids-teens especially

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:51:15 PM EDT 2005
Lisa, I didn't see Ellen's response to an earlier question. Ellen is in Boca Raton.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:51:30 PM EDT 2005
Hey, Joe, is there a major difference in seeing an endo or a ped. endo?

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:51:32 PM EDT 2005
Ok, well you can all come for a swim at the FFL conference, since you will be in FL anyways. Yes, I WILL be at the conference. Saving my money now!!!

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:51:48 PM EDT 2005
Joe- were you the one dancing and singing with the tweens last summer

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:52:29 PM EDT 2005
Yes, very sad. That's why it's hard to ignore a teen who is routinely not taking insulin or checking bg. Because we KNOW kids who have died from this. How do you get that across to teens who won't take it seriously.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:52:44 PM EDT 2005
Most teens and their families who I work with-it takes approx 3-5 one hour sessions-and everybody's serious about working on it - their A1cs get normalized

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:53:15 PM EDT 2005
Yes Syacey-I was

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:53:43 PM EDT 2005
Lida where are you?

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:53:55 PM EDT 2005
Jesse says you were very cool  Cool 

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:53:56 PM EDT 2005
Stacey - I wasn't ignoring your question. Joe has some time with the teens as well. Actually, a session with each age group. And then extra time with the elementary kids. We need a Joe Clone.

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:54:19 PM EDT 2005
Wilma IS coming this way..we will pack photos , diabetes supplies, and important papers and hope for the best.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:54:24 PM EDT 2005
Rhon-sorta-peds endos have more of a feel for the family thing

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:54:41 PM EDT 2005
Ellen -- Fern Park/Casselberry (the Orlando Area)

Registered User Trish Mom of 8yr old, pumping  (24.50.92.60) Wed Oct 19 09:55:10 PM EDT 2005
Don't forget the laptop!!!

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:55:13 PM EDT 2005
I remeber her-send her my regards-plz

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:55:16 PM EDT 2005
Lisa, you should apply to go to Boggy Creek Family diabetes camp during Superbowl Sunday weekend - free and AWESOME

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:55:33 PM EDT 2005
Ellen - you can come here. Orlando doesn't usually get hit as bad since we are inland, but I have three loud little ones.  Razz 

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:56:04 PM EDT 2005
pediatric endocrinologists are accutely aware of growth issues etc. which are important with children with diabetes.

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:56:17 PM EDT 2005
Ellen -- is it good for young ones? Alex is 3

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:56:21 PM EDT 2005
Ellen - You are welcome to come to my house. It's a long drive (or a short flight), but we don't get hurricanes here.

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:56:54 PM EDT 2005
Lisa it's FABULOUS for little ones too...you need to get your application in early.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:57:11 PM EDT 2005
We're still looking for a new ped endo for Diamond. There is none local, so we'll have to drive for a ped endo.

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 09:57:22 PM EDT 2005
hi...sorry i am so late...

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:57:25 PM EDT 2005
Joe Andrew was dx in Hollywood FL and the pedo endo there said it is like night and day the difference between an adult endo and a peds endo when we came to Calif he wanted us to go to USCF and call his peds endo coleague

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:57:32 PM EDT 2005
Joe - Do you know Kristy Stroub? She is an educator in Orlando for Animas. She was Alex's first CDE and she is amazing. So is Julie Van Camp!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:57:34 PM EDT 2005
If you're driving, Ellen, we're 4 hours closer! But, we are supposed to get rain for several days.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:57:46 PM EDT 2005
Laura, you're so funny. Razz 

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:57:48 PM EDT 2005
hi megs LOL 

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:58:05 PM EDT 2005
We've given up on a peds endo for Sam. He's 15 - almost 16 - and the peds clinic isn't really appropriate. The adult clinic doesn't take teens until they are 17. Oy. Mad 

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:58:15 PM EDT 2005
ur sig should say pumping "animas"....finally !!

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 09:58:22 PM EDT 2005
Lisa Marte-sure I know them they're incredible!

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 09:58:31 PM EDT 2005
hi stacey

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 09:58:43 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Laura, we could have a middle of the night bg testing party. Zack seems to be developing hypo unawareness . He used to wake up at night if bg was in the 60s. Last night he woke up with it 30  Cry  and on Monday he had a headache after school at debate, tested bg and it was 40.

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 09:58:43 PM EDT 2005
Rhon, we have to drive now to a peds endo 1 1/2 hours each way we also see a team there every 3 months it is hard sometimes takes the whole day but the care is great

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 09:58:51 PM EDT 2005
I thought ped endo would be better, even if it is a drive. That's what we had at WVU and he was AWESOME! Wore a pump too.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:59:05 PM EDT 2005
Oh heck, Brenda... if she drives this far, she can visit both of us!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 09:59:23 PM EDT 2005
So, what do you do with Sam? Marissa's still with a peds. endo. and he says she can stay for a few more years. He gave me the names of some adult endos, but I don't know where it is (Laura has seen my desk--no wonder I can't find it. LOL )

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 09:59:30 PM EDT 2005
Joe - They are the reason Alex is pumping with Animas and Kristy has become a personal friend. I was the one that wrote that letter about them. Animas is so lucky to have you guys!

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 09:59:43 PM EDT 2005
The adult endo's near us seem to know very little about type 1.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 09:59:46 PM EDT 2005
We've been getting way too many of those 40's, too, at night. It stinks. The other nights, he's either in range or 300.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 10:00:22 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Lisa Marte

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:00:30 PM EDT 2005
I think that's how it'll be for us Julia.

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:00:34 PM EDT 2005
Laura, what to do about those lows/highs?? We can't seem to figure it out...

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.170) Wed Oct 19 10:00:35 PM EDT 2005
My house just filled with my teens friends. I can not concentrate. I need to go sorry.

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:00:36 PM EDT 2005
I'm driving too, LB!

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:00:37 PM EDT 2005
Laura --- Jon just tested Alex and he was 48. That is not common for him at all!  Frown 

Registered User cyndy t, mom to Ben,10, dxed at 6  (67.70.152.170) Wed Oct 19 10:00:53 PM EDT 2005
will there be a transcript O can read later?

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 10:00:56 PM EDT 2005
Rhon, it is great to have a pedo endo and you will most likely want one with puberty etc. where do you live?

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:01:04 PM EDT 2005
With the nighttime lows, do you guys check before bed or do they have that night time hormone problem?

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:01:10 PM EDT 2005
Not sure what we're going to do with Sam. Our CDE is wonderful; I talked with her today and she said to go wherever we are comfortable. We may fly to see a private endo in another state a couple times a year. He's fine with doing mgmt via email and faxes. I like that.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:01:18 PM EDT 2005
Bye Cyndy.

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:01:40 PM EDT 2005
Rhon ---- who knows here!  Razz 

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 10:01:46 PM EDT 2005
I find that if at midnight he is in range I have to give him juice and fallow up at 4 or he might drop.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:02:00 PM EDT 2005
NC

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 10:02:14 PM EDT 2005
I want to thank all of you for sharing so much of yourselves this evening-Lookking forward to seeing all of you at the next CWD conference

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:02:34 PM EDT 2005
With Douglas it's an early morning low, but when we tweek the basals, he's always high in the early mornings! We can't seem to find the right combination...

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:02:39 PM EDT 2005
Kim - that's how Alex was on Lantus

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:02:43 PM EDT 2005
Poor Lisa. :( I'm sorry.

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:02:55 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Joe

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:02:58 PM EDT 2005
Thank you Joe.

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:03:00 PM EDT 2005
Joe -- Thanks!

Registered User Julia Mom of Andrew, 9 dx 20 months Cozmo pumper  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 10:03:08 PM EDT 2005
Thank you Joe for your input and caring of our children

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 10:03:10 PM EDT 2005
Thank YOU Joe. You are really a treasure.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:03:10 PM EDT 2005
In the past, many of Marissa's nighttime lows were exercise related. When she played evening soccer, we always had to worry; no two nights were ever the same, so I was always adjusting the pump, food or no food (often her choice because she would feel ill after running), etc.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:03:18 PM EDT 2005
What do we do about it? Heck if I know. We stay up all night and test. That's not a great solution, but I'm stumped. I used to think it had to do with hockey - but I don't think that anymore. I believe it's just the variability of teen hormones. Too bad we can't have a 'hormonometer' glommed onto the back of our teens. Hmmm... think we could make such a thing and patent it?

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:03:42 PM EDT 2005
Okey dokey. It's 10:00 - actually 10:03 - and I want to thank Joe for this evening's chat. You'll come back, right?  Smile 

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 10:03:59 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Joe.

Registered User Joe Diabetes Nurse Educator, Family Therapist  (66.7.133.180) Wed Oct 19 10:04:09 PM EDT 2005
Absolutely!!!I'm hooked

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:04:15 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Joe!

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:04:21 PM EDT 2005
Take care, Joe ~ hope you're not in harm's way...

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:04:39 PM EDT 2005
Laura -- You crack me up, but what's the excuse for preschoolers???

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:04:51 PM EDT 2005
hormonometer You are too funny!

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:04:58 PM EDT 2005
Transcript will be posted tomorrow. That's Jeff's job.  Grin 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:04:59 PM EDT 2005
Joe--thanks for being here tonight. Next time, we all send our kids to your house and we parents (sorry, Leslie nic can't come :-)) go relax, if that's possible. Smile 

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:05:26 PM EDT 2005
It SHOULD be posted tomorrow. I'll remind him.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:05:37 PM EDT 2005
This was fun. I've never been in one here before. I have read one though.

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 10:05:55 PM EDT 2005
Laura, I havent slept in a month.. Jesse grew an inch in the last month.. hormone heaven here at night. He's eirther hi or low... Maybe I'll take sam for a week.. then send him back to you with Jess and you can have a week..lol...

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 10:06:54 PM EDT 2005
Hey Meghan... ow come your soooo quiet???

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:07:18 PM EDT 2005
Stacey, that would work! Except I'd probably wake up every night a couple times to call you and see what Sam was when you checked him...

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:07:24 PM EDT 2005
Just because...I don't have children, so i didn't feel i could chime in...

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:07:39 PM EDT 2005
Good bye Brenda, Laura and Everyone! Nice talking, even if I did have to make/eat dinner during this hour... Nic enjoyed this chat Ü

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:07:55 PM EDT 2005
Hey Meghan! Why so late tonight? Smile 

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:08:13 PM EDT 2005
Nic was great Leslie!

Registered User Wendy type 1/pumper  (71.1.59.222) Wed Oct 19 10:08:28 PM EDT 2005
Meghan..i got that package Today...i will be sending you a check to the addy on the package...tommorow..THANK YOU So much

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 10:08:29 PM EDT 2005
she studying to be a dr !!! thats why...

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:08:33 PM EDT 2005
It's good to hear from you, Leslie. Keep in touch, ok?

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:08:35 PM EDT 2005
i've been here since about 915....and followed, just had nothing to add....

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:08:52 PM EDT 2005
sure wendy

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:08:53 PM EDT 2005
Thanks Rhon ~ he may not show it but he does care about his older brother

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:09:27 PM EDT 2005
I could tell. :)

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:09:31 PM EDT 2005
i was one of the silent 20 people on the page...hard to beleive, eh?

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:09:46 PM EDT 2005
Yeah, I really miss you guys, Laura  Frown 

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:09:53 PM EDT 2005
Rhon - These chats are fun. So many different topics in so many directions. If you have a 'quick responder' like Joe, the chat goes well. If it takes your expert forever to answer, it doesn't. Things get bogged down and confused. Joe is quite good.

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:09:56 PM EDT 2005
I'm heading out of here group. Thanks for the chat. Cool 

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:10:20 PM EDT 2005
Bye Rhon

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:10:37 PM EDT 2005
I read the one with Gary Hall, Jr. You should get him again.

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 10:10:41 PM EDT 2005
Looking forward to more chats on this subject

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:10:48 PM EDT 2005
nite Rhon

Registered User Rhon Mama of Diamond, 11, dx'd @ 9  (71.2.146.233) Wed Oct 19 10:10:56 PM EDT 2005
Nighty night group!

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:11:01 PM EDT 2005
Are you still in Oregon? I'm coming up to Seattle sometime in the next few months for a site visit (potential future regional conference). How far are you from Seattle?

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:11:11 PM EDT 2005
Yes, I came in late, but enjoyed it too!

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:11:31 PM EDT 2005
Ellen - Joe will be back. We love him, he loves us. It's a good fit!  LOL 

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:12:01 PM EDT 2005
Laura, it's about a 7 hour drive... Seattle is really cool though!

Registered User Stacey mom to Jesse dx.12/01.... pumping 4/28/03  (24.199.90.39) Wed Oct 19 10:12:58 PM EDT 2005
goodnight.. gotta get jess into bed. he'd stay up all night if i let him...

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:13:05 PM EDT 2005
I hope you can do something up there for CWD

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:13:31 PM EDT 2005
nite stacey!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:14:02 PM EDT 2005
Goodnight all. See you next time.

Registered User Laura Billetdeaux CWD Moderator  (69.19.14.23) Wed Oct 19 10:14:26 PM EDT 2005
G'night everyone! Thanks for chatting! Smile 

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:14:27 PM EDT 2005
good night Brenda!

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:14:33 PM EDT 2005
Night --- see you all on the list!

Registered User Meghan dx 1984, pump  (72.255.77.173) Wed Oct 19 10:14:34 PM EDT 2005
Nite LB!

Registered User Ellen (FL) Zack 17, dx'd 1989, pump  (64.12.116.134) Wed Oct 19 10:14:39 PM EDT 2005
Great to see you Brenda

Registered User Beth az DD Meghan dx'd 8-2005  (130.13.40.223) Wed Oct 19 10:14:40 PM EDT 2005
uh oh, did I miss it?

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:14:42 PM EDT 2005
Night, Brenda ~ g'night All!

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:15:31 PM EDT 2005
For Leslie: how old is Nic? And, did you know he's annoyed by Tobey's stereo until midnight? I think that's what he said.

Registered User Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 18, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.251) Wed Oct 19 10:15:48 PM EDT 2005
Gotta love siblings. LOL 

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:16:27 PM EDT 2005
Nic just turned 16, and NO, I didn't know that he was bothered by Tobey's late-night stereo!

Registered User Kim mom of Kyle,7  (205.188.116.5) Wed Oct 19 10:16:56 PM EDT 2005
Good night. Once again it's nice (in a sad way)to know that there are other people who have the same problems. It makes you realize that there are lots of tired people walking around because they were up checking BS Smile 

Registered User leslie mother of tobey, 18, dxd at age 9  (72.0.182.27) Wed Oct 19 10:17:18 PM EDT 2005
Hmmm... guess we might have to do something about that too!. Thanks Brenda!

Registered User Lisa Marte Mom of Alex, 3, dxd 3/16/05  (65.33.131.173) Wed Oct 19 10:17:28 PM EDT 2005
Kim - You got that right!

Registered User Naomi, CA, son Jordan 15, dx @8  (207.200.116.5) Wed Oct 19 10:18:12 PM EDT 2005
Brenda, How is Marissa doing? Jordan was dx in '98 (close to your daughter).

Registered User Lauren mom of Monica 11  (71.208.44.160) Wed Oct 19 10:27:58 PM EDT 2005
darn... i missed it!

Registered User Michi 22, type 1, dx'd 2002  (12.129.141.204) Wed Oct 19 10:39:33 PM EDT 2005
Anyone around?

Registered User Michi 22, type 1, dx'd 2002  (12.129.141.204) Wed Oct 19 10:40:45 PM EDT 2005
Darn - no one to talk too, guess I have to quit procrastinating and go study  Frown 

Registered User Michi 22, type 1, dx'd 2002  (12.129.141.204) Wed Oct 19 10:40:58 PM EDT 2005
Goodnight room Smile 

Registered User Kathy (WI) Mom to D'Aunte 4 dxd 18 months.  (205.188.116.139) Wed Oct 19 11:20:11 PM EDT 2005
Wait I missed it.. Oh I hate living in Central time..

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