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Chat with Colleen Bartley

Colleen Bartley, author of The Kids Choice Cookbook, and her daughter Shannon joined us for a special chat on Wednesday, February 6, 2002

About The Author, Colleen Bartley:
Thirteen years ago I was owner operator of a restaurant /catering business in White Rock, B.C., Canada. My world changed forever when my daughter was diagnosed with diabetes. Suddenly we all became focused on meal plans and restricted diets (as well as blood tests and insulin injections).

I conceived the idea of a cookbook especially meant for kids with diabetes with my business partner, John Pateman. It was our dream to create a cookbook that empowered kids on restricted diets by giving them more control over their own lives by providing them with the tools and skills to prepare snacks and meals for themselves. Instead of depressing them with new rules I wanted to put the focus onto the fact that they could still eat their favorite food with perhaps a few modifications. We were fortunate to meet with two people who believed in our idea. One was Rob Hagen at LifeScan who gave us lots of help and ultimately provided the financing. The other was Doreen Yasui, the dietician for the Juvenile Diabetes Program at B.C.'s Children's Hospital. She helped immensely (and enthusiastically) with technical advice and editing.

When writing the Kid's Choice Cookbook I tried to determine what kids liked (based on my family and friend's tastes) and then developed and adapted recipes that were satisfying but low in fat and sugar. The reaction that the Kid's Choice Cookbook received convinced me that the book was both timely and appreciated. The basic recipes and the emphasis on cooking for fun appealed to many families.

My world has changed again in that 13 years. I now have two daughters and our family of four lives in the beautiful seaside town of Sechelt, B.C., Canada on the Sunshine Coast. I no longer own a business; I work in the galley of the ferry that brings visitors up here and my cute little five-year-old daughter is now a lovely and healthy young woman.

The world has changed a lot for people with diabetes in 13 years too. We have learned that the emphasis should be on the child first and not the diabetes. Now diets are not restrictive. Any food is allowed in moderation. With this in mind I went to work on the First Choice Cookbook. I used the foods and recipes that my family liked as a starting point for this book as well. I decided to call it the First Choice Cookbook because of the simple recipes for all "first time" cooks and for people learning to cook healthier recipes that are fast and tasty. I hope that it proves to be a good resource for everyone to use on a day-to-day basis.

About the author's daughter, Shannon Bartley:
Shannon is 18 years old and she has had diabetes since she was 5. There have been lots of changes in diabetes care in that 13 years, syringes are smaller, blood glucose meters are easier and quicker, but what has changed the most is attitudes towards diet and foods.

When she first became diabetic, sugars were taboo and diets were very controlled, now any food is allowed in moderation. She has, of course, never liked the injections and blood tests but mostly she has resented the schedules that controlled her and were always in the back of her mind. As a small child she was pretty much unaware of having diabetes and would just cry or get mad on occasion, especially when she wanted something sweet. As she got older it was often hard to fit in with her friends' plans, which seemed to include eating junk food that was not in her schedule. It is much easier now to change her diet (and insulin) to fit her lifestyle instead of changing her lifestyle to fit into a meal plan.

Having diabetes has presented many trials in her life and has helped make her the person she is today. She has gone to Diabetes' Camp for years, learned a lot and loved it! She has done a lot of volunteer work and met many great people because of it. She has donated many hours to the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation "so that other kids will hopefully never get diabetes one day." She has arranged ‘Mini Walks For the Cure' at several schools, been the Junior Spokesperson for JDF, given speeches and most recently been involved in the ‘Rockin for Research' gala in Vancouver.

Currently she is finishing high school with two courses to go. She is working at two part-time jobs; at MacDonald's and at a florists' shop. She is a strong swimmer who is just one course away from getting her lifeguard certificate. She doesn't know what career path she wants to pursue but she plans on going to college in Vancouver next year.

Cookbooks can be ordered from the author using the cookbook order form.

Recipes discussed during today's chat are available on the LifeScan.com Web site:


Chat Room Administrator Wed Feb 6 2002 20:15:00 Eastern US
The 'Colleen Bartley' chat room is now open.


Wed Feb 6 2002 20:57:02 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Colleen, since the ADA recently (past couple of years) said that it is ok for people with diabetes to consume a moderate amount of sugar, do you still prefer to use sugar substitutes in your recipes?

Wed Feb 6 2002 20:58:42 Eastern US
Colleen C.-Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
The chat will begin momentarily...

Wed Feb 6 2002 20:59:06 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 216.68.227.65
Ok, Colleen C.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:00:45 Eastern US
Colleen C.-Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
Welcome to today's chat, Cooking For Children With Diabetes, sponsored by LifeScan (makers of ONE TOUCH Meters).
It is my pleasure to introduce cookbook author Colleen Bartley and her 18- year old daughter with diabetes, Shannon. Colleen and Shannon will be sharing their experiences as a family fitting diabetes into regular meal planning. Colleen has also published two cookbooks, one especially for children with diabetes, and will share some of her favorite recipes. Let's get started…

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:01:45 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 216.68.227.65
Colleen, since the ADA recently (past couple of years) said that it is ok for people with diabetes to consume a moderate amount of sugar, do you still prefer to use sugar substitutes in your recipes?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:02:36 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Hello everyone! Thank you for joining me today.

Most people e-mail/phone me looking for reassurance and ways to cope. Many are looking for ideas for special occasions, since many holidays have to do with sweets and eating (e.g., Halloween, birthday parties, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas). I'm often asked about substituting foods in recipes, how to make recipes using less fat and sugar and sugar substitutes.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:03:19 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
You should try Splenda! It's a sugar substitute that tastes great!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:04:29 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Actually I do prefer real sugar because it results in a superior product but i finf if I need a lot of sugar part sugar and part Splenda works well.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:04:34 Eastern US
omeganerd from 204.244.165.139
Hello Colleen and Shannon!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:04:50 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 216.68.227.65
Our daughter will not eat anything with Splenda except Hot Cocoa mix. She uses Equal in tea.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:05:08 Eastern US
Laurie from 200.65.111.106
Hi Colleen and Shannon.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:05:09 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Hi Colleen and Shannon - Just want to welcome YOU to CWD. I've been looking forward to tonight's chat. My 11 year old son, Sam, who has type 1, wants to be a CHEF (!) when he "grows up."

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:05:36 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
How is Splenda different from Equal?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:05:39 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
Hi Colleen

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:05:54 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Great Cooking is fun!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:06:22 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 216.68.227.65
Colleen B--do you plan to include carb counts and other nutritional information in future books? The copy of your Kid's Choice Cookbook includes exchanges, which many people no longer us.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:06:33 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
The hardest thing when Shannon was young, was she couldn't have what she wanted sometimes. She was so sad to not have a sundae at McDonald's after a winning sports event. So it was about figuring out another way; thinking about the child before the diabetes. We decided not to just take it lightly, and to figure out a way that she could have what she wanted.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:06:35 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Splenda tastes like real sugar

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:07:26 Eastern US
karen, (mom of Ricky 13 dx@12) from 66.186.170.82
Splenda is the sweetener of choice in our home

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:07:29 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Well, grilling is fun, anyway. And stir-frying. We have trouble with keeping meals balanced and not top-heavy with protein... that tends to shoot bg's way up there later in the evening.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:07:36 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
Carb counter would be a wonderful addition!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:07:42 Eastern US
Chelle (Mom of Bre dx'd 1/28/02) from 24.169.120.223
Hi Colleen and Shannon, I am new to Diabeted, my daughter was just dx'd. Any Ideas for Quick Meals?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:08:14 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Splenda is better for cooking with than Equal because temperature changes don't have as much effect. Splenda is also a bit sweeter than sugar.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:08:24 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Colleen B., just convinced Marissa to take a course in Nutrition and Wellness next year. Hoping she learns to cook.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:08:46 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
In my new book I list available carbohydrates.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:09:29 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:09:45 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Hey Brenda - tell Marissa she can always marry Sam. He'll cook for her. :) Did I just say that?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:09:58 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
We have that problem with protein and fat too. But thanks to pumping and extended boluses, we can get it in time. My daughter loves to help me cook too!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:10:02 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Hello...
I really like Splenda but am beginning to think it does not like me! Having gi symptoms. Anyone else having any problems with it?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:10:33 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
simply how can I cope with fruits better packed for school any ideas ?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:10:40 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
You can make children happy so easily by making something exciting like a banana split out of a pancake, and still have it be low fat and healthy. That's the inspiration for my Kid's Choice Cookbook recipe for Pancake Banana Splits: http://www.lifescan.com/care/recipes/kids/pancake_banana_splits.html

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:10:52 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Laura, I know she likes "younger men" (13 yr. olds), but I think Sam is too young and she knows him too well!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:11:37 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Sandra, you can buy individual serving size cans of many fruits packed in pear juice...so lower in sugar than syrup ones.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:11:39 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
I loved the Pancake Banana Split!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:11:42 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16) from 199.120.105.51
Hi we haven't used Splenda and Rea hates to cook, makes her younger sister do it

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:12:02 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Back to carb counting with the help of a RDA you can use the grams of carbohydrate to do carb counting - Shannon is just learning how to do this.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:12:22 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Sandra, I give Marissa 9-11 grapes (depends on the size), an 11g box of raisins, a 14g container of Dole peaches, or Del Monte Lite Fruit (13g, I think). How about a small apple? Bananas are sometimes hard to peel.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:12:34 Eastern US
Leslie (15, newly dx'd) from 152.163.205.84
I had to learn carb counting when i was dx'd

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:12:38 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
When they are in season, Lisa has clementines every day with her school snack. They are only about 9-11 carbs each and she doesn't mind peeling them. Sometimes you can also find "lady apples" which are very cute! She loves all food which is a great thing!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:12:58 Eastern US
whizz (dad of brad, 6, dx'd @3) from 205.188.197.168
hello everyone

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:13:06 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Regarding quick meals - I use alot of packaged food that are low in fat for quick meals for example pancake mixes are very low.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:13:40 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Can't LifeScan make a meter that also counts carbs for you???

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:13:59 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I do really like your cookbook. We gave it out to all the kids at camp several years ago.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:14:16 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Sam discovered applesauce this week - the unsweetened kind. It was the only thing that stayed down for the last 10 days with the stomach bug. :( Now that he's better, he still likes it - asked for 2 of them in lunch today!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:14:20 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
I like fruit cocktail my self homemade but it doesn't stay fresh to long..like apples browning?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:14:37 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Both of my cookbooks are meant for busy families that need quick, easy recipes.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:14:38 Eastern US
whizz (dad of brad, 6, dx'd @3) from 205.188.197.168
what are some good snack foods

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:14:56 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
Pancake mixes are low in fat? And how about the butter you fry them in?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:15:02 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Colleen B., just realized the First Choice Cookbook is newer and does have the carb counts!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:15:28 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Have you tried lemon juice to prevent browning?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:15:29 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Have you tried lemon juice to prevent browning?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:15:48 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
A little lemon juice on the apple slices will keep them from browning.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:15:57 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
nope tell me how please

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:16:20 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Laura, I cut up about 5 large Golden Delicious apples, put them in a pan, sprinkle on cinnamon and add about no more than 1/4 c. apple juice. Cook on med. until apples are soft and then mash them. Really good served warm.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:17:13 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
sounds yummy mmmmmmmmm

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:17:20 Eastern US
omeganerd from 204.244.165.139
Colleen... could you get Heather to call me on 5-9810... thanks!!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:17:53 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
I use very little oil for any frying - buy a good teflon pan and spray it with vegetable oil spray.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:18:40 Eastern US
whizz (dad of brad, 6, dx'd @3) from 205.188.197.168
has anyone tried cooking with stevia powder

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:19:30 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Whizz, I have some of it, but have never cooked with it. I think I have some that is greenish in color and some that is white. Just can't get past that color to use it. LOL

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:20:18 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
The Kid's Choice Cookbook had an emphasis on kids being able to cook themselves and I thought that snacks would be especially good for them to prepare so I included a lot.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:20:44 Eastern US
whizz (dad of brad, 6, dx'd @3) from 205.188.197.168
ive never seen it in green only white

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:21:03 Eastern US
Colleen C.- Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
This chat is about cooking, but since you asked, LifeScan's ONE TOUCH Profile Meter does have a Carbohydrate Counting feature. But you have to know the number of carbs.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:21:38 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Snack examples that Shannon likes are nachos and potato skins & tropical banana burritos.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:21:48 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Colleen/Shannon: did you find that you had to make a lot of changes to your recipes over the years? I presume that, early on, you made a lot more "healthy" foods, but might have altered your diet in recent years as more studies have come out allowing more sweets and such.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:22:18 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Tropical banana burritos???

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:22:28 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
thanks Coleen C

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:22:50 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Also... directions on baked apples? Maybe with a blob of coolwhip or vanilla ice cream?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:22:50 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
I think it really helps mine feel like they have more imput when they help prepare the food

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:22:54 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I think snacks are the hardest part of the "diabetic diet" for most parents. Difficult coming up with appropriate, desirable things 3x/d, every day.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:23:01 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
I have experimented with steeping stevia in boiling water and then using the water but I haven't got it to come out right yet.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:23:28 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I was just looking at the Tropical Banana Burritos recipe, thinking it would be a good snack for camp.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:23:41 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Sorry I meant peanut butter

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:24:13 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Did Lifescan also underwrite the First Choice book? Any chance it will be given out to campers?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:25:45 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Oh yes things are much easier now and more relaxed with regards to meal plans and sweets - Shannon can fit most things in now if she balances it with exercise.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:25:46 Eastern US
Sandra, gotinsulin@aol.com (Mom to Colleen 6 dx@3,Tim8 dxprediabetic) from 152.163.205.61
I put your book in a display case at my public library I did this Month about children with diabetes... Hope more people take advantage of it.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:26:53 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Laura, First Choice has "Apple galette, Apple granola crisp, Apple Pandowdy, Apple Poundcake" Apple turnovers, and Apple walnut muffins." Let me know if you want any of them.
Collen B--are we allowed to post any recipes on the CWD web site?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:27:59 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Baked apples are a relly good choice for dessert - You can put a little sugar, cinnamon and raisin in the center and serve with Cool whop - Yumm

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:29:45 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
What is apple galette? Never heard that term. I have a great recipe for apple crisp - I use oatmeal in it and it makes it extra crunchy. Plus healthy.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:30:05 Eastern US
omeganerd from 204.244.165.139
Colleen... is Heather around? If so could you ask her to call me at 5-9810?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:30:36 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Who is Heather?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:31:03 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
Does your cookbook have other simple recipes in it besides desserts? Can we get it in book stores like Barnes and Noble?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:32:08 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Recipes are posted at Lifescan.com from both cookbooks...You'd also be surprised at the food items in your kitchen, that with a little imagination, you can turn into fun meals that still fit within a diabetes meal plan for kids. It just takes some creativity. For example, my Phyllo Fruit Pie recipe: http://www.lifescan.com/care/recipes/kids/phyllo_fruit_pie.html. I chose this recipe because Phyllo can be used for so many things that you wouldn't normally think of, and is low in fat, sugar, and tastes good. You can find it in the frozen section of a grocery store.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:32:15 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Heather is my other daughter - she is 15 and always on the phone!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:32:16 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Laura, it looks like it's an open faced pie cooked on a baking sheet. Geez, don't you ever watch Julia Child on PBS?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:32:42 Eastern US
omeganerd from 204.244.165.139
Heather is Colleens other daughter and one of my best friends.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:32:55 Eastern US
Colleen C.- Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
This chat is about cooking, but since you asked, LifeScan did support the First Choice Cookbook. The Kid's Choice Cookbook was specific to kids with diabetes and was a great diabetes camp give away. There are no current plans to provide First Choice Cookbooks at diabetes summer camps this year. We will offer our Diabetes Camp Scholarship program again, though. If you want to check www.LifeScan.com in mid-March...

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:33:16 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Sounds like our daughter. You'd think the phone was attached to her ear. LOL

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:33:26 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Thanks, Colleen.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:33:29 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Can she please call omeganerd

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:33:47 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
It has breakfasts, muffins, meats, chicken, cookies, drinks etc.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:34:08 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Lifescan is a wonderful supporter of diabetes camping. :-)

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:34:31 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Shannon really likes Smoothies and milk shakes that she can make as a quick snack.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:34:47 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Well, I don't know how some parents would feel about the newer book. Saw a "Grilled Banana Sundae" recipe that includes rum. Sounds pretty good to me.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:34:57 Eastern US
omeganerd from 204.244.165.139
LOL

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:35:25 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Just a thought... but maybe LifeScan could have some of these cookbooks available at our CWD conference this summer in Pasadena (at the LifeScan booth)? I'm sure families would be very interested in them.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:36:07 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Yummm... Ok, Brenda, I'll bring the bananas. You get the rum. Shall we meet in Toledo?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:36:51 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.188
Does Shannon use any kind of protein powder in her shakes? Sam puts plain yogurt in. Or a spoonful of slimfast (not a whole portion).

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:37:40 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Colleen, Marissa loves Strawberry-Banana Smoothies. How do you make such drinks? I have just used some fruit, milk, I think, and crushed ice? Do you usually add a sweetener when you make them? How does one determine the number of carbs in such a beverage?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:38:20 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
The First Choice Cookbook does have recipes that are a bit more sophisticated because for us it was a natural progression as Shannon got older.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:39:29 Eastern US
Colleen C.- Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
Recipes are available on the www.LifeScan.com Web site.
To purchase a Kid's Choice Cookbook, you can order from Amazon.com or directly from the author.
Price ranges from $12-15.00 US, plus shipping and handling.
· To order from Amazon.com (delivery about 3-5 weeks), choose the Amazon link at the bottom of the chat page explaining this chat: http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/chat/lifescanchat.htm
· Printable Order Form to order directly from Colleen Bartley (delivery 2-3 weeks) will be available when this transcript is posted.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:39:52 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
A good way to amke them is either with frozen fruit as a base along with milk or use fruit, yogurt and ice cubes .. All in a blender.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:40:59 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Shannon will add protein powder or eat a protein bar if she is doing a lot of exercise especially swimming - She swims for an hour and needs something to last.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:41:32 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Hmm, never thought to use yogurt.
Shannon, do you eat at home most of the time or out? And, by having such an expert chef, do you find it easier to know the carbs/exchanges when you do eat out?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:43:21 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Most of the time I eat at home. I find that the food that mom makes is usually better than the food that I eat out.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:44:03 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Brenda, if you measure out the ingredients as you put them in (eg, 4oz of yogurt, etc) can figure the total carb of the product. It's an approximation, but works well in most cases.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:44:50 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Shannon, after looking at all these good recipes, I think I'd like to eat at your house too! LOL

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:45:19 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
As a kid I didn't go by carb counting because I was told to just follow the meal plan my dietican gave me. I'm just starting to to carb count over the last couple of months.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:45:42 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.185
And once you put the ice in and blend it all up (a shake), it really makes a tall glass! Very filling. Especially with yogurt.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:46:14 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
You'd also be surprised at the food items in your kitchen, that with a little imagination, you can turn into fun meals that still fit within a diabetes meal plan for kids. It just takes some creativity. For example, my Phyllo Fruit Pie recipe: http://www.lifescan.com/care/recipes/kids/phyllo_fruit_pie.html. I chose this recipe because Phyllo can be used for so many things that you wouldn't normally think of, and is low in fat, sugar, and tastes good. You can find it in the frozen section of a grocery store.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:46:34 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Therein lies my problem; I don't usually measure. :-)

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:47:10 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Phyllo is low in fat? Hmmm. Guess it's the other things you put with it that usually results in a high fat dessert.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:47:34 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Is Phyllo lower in fat than Frozen Puff Pastry? I have never used either.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:48:19 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.185
oh, you mean brushing it with butter? :)

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:49:19 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I don't mind cooking; it's deciding WHAT to cook that's the hard part for me. The Kid's Choice book has lots of good ideas.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:49:50 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
I have also not bought Pita bread. Is this low in fat, too? Looks like it should be. Just never thought to get it.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:50:02 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I'm thinking baklava..... :-)

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:50:11 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Much lower! In most traditional phyllo recipes you brush it with butter on every layer but this is not necessary Just spray it with Vegetable oil spray and it turns golden & crispy!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:50:12 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Phyllo is good as a topping for meat pies too.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:51:21 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Pita is very versatile. We use it for summer suppers. Put all kinds of fillings - chopped tomato, carrots, green pepper, sunflower seeds, bacon bits, tuna salad, egg salad, etc on the table and let folks build their own.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:51:35 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.185
Oh, but half the fun is melting that pound of butter in the saucepan...

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:51:45 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Pitas are good - stuff them with tuna or egg salad or toast them and dip them in tzatziki...lots of uses!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:51:54 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I'll have to try phyllo.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:52:15 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Ok, I have to ask: what is tzatziki?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:52:30 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190

The reason I choose these recipes:
Puffy Ham & Cheese Bake: http://www.lifescan.com/club/pages/rcp1hmchs.html. A friend of our family loves this recipe because her son can make it himself.
Spaghetti & Meatball Skillet: http://www.lifescan.com/care/recipes/kids/spaghetti_meatball.html
I picked this one because the image is so cute.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:52:39 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Pitas are also handy for making "neater" sandwiches, to eat on the good. Keeps fillings in better, fewer crumbs than regular bread.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:53:08 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Oops. to eat on the go....

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:53:20 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Tzatziki is a Greek dip made with yogourt cucumbers & garlic.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:54:15 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Hmm, have to find a recipe and try it some time.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:54:24 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.185
Yum.
Gotta scoop... I'm being "paged" from upstairs. Time for bed on the east coast.
Thanks for all the great info, Colleen and Shannon! G'night everyone. :)

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:54:28 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
the Lifescan site is really good!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:55:04 Eastern US
Laura B from 65.234.145.185
Oops! Gotta scoot. Hmmm... maybe a scoop of gourmet neopolitan is just the thing... anyway, bye!

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:56:07 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
When Shannon was little she started making nuts & bolts for parties at Christmas - she had something great to contribute and she could enjoy it herself.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:56:37 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Bye Laura

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:56:50 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Does everyone find that holidays are all about food? Especially Birthdays

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:57:01 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Nuts and bolts? Like Chex mix?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:57:22 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Nuts & Bolts?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:57:43 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Parents of preschool and elementary kids are concerned about all the school parties that revolve around food.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:57:55 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
Nuts and bolts don't sound too tasty to me!! :)

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:58:03 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
What worked for us was to always have parties revolve around an activity - skating, swimming - then Shannon could have cake without going too high.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:59:01 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Nuts and Bolts must be a Canadian term ... Shreddies, nuts, pretzels etc all baked together?

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:59:07 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Great idea.

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:59:09 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
I'm going to attempt to teach a group of Cub Scouts about nutrition Sun. evening and I have found about 5 things that don't require cooking, except microwaving Quesadillas. Going to do a Chex Mix kind of thing the boys can take home and "Ants on a Log."

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:59:21 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Ah.."Chex mix"

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:59:58 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
aka trail mix....

Wed Feb 6 2002 21:59:59 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
microwaving a quesadilla?

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:00:11 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
The hardest thing when Shannon was young, was she couldn't have what she wanted sometimes. She was so sad to not have a sundae at McDonald's after a winning sports event. So it was about figuring out another way; thinking about the child before the diabetes. We decided not to just take it lightly, and to figure out a way that she could have what she wanted.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:00:13 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
I recently came in for a school party to measure the ice cream sundae. We love pumping!

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:00:15 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
My mother-in-law once made "Puppy Chow," which I think is a Chex Mix with powdered sugar coating. Not really appropriate for this group.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:00:46 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Gordo--just a very simple Q.--cheese and a couple of tortillas! The boys are only 7.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:00:55 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
At the time, all the diabetes cookbooks available were dry, with nothing particular for kids; and most were for people who needed to lose weight. One had a kid's section, but the first recipe was liver and bacon – not a meal most kids request. That gave me the idea for the cookbook. I didn't want Shannon to be faced with a depressing diet that just wasn't necessary. The cookbook was my way of finding ways to make kid's favorite foods within a diabetes meal plan.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:01:44 Eastern US
Donna (Mom of Lisa,8) from 68.38.185.110
Ants on a log doesn't sound too good either! And what are shreddies?

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:02:01 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Key points to remember:
· You can turn ordinary cooking and diabetes meal plans into something that really works for kids
· Find a way to give them "kid" food, that still works with their meal plan is important
· You can do that with prepackaged foods, with fast food, with fresh food – separately and combined.
· Getting them involved in their own meal plan makes a big difference in giving them control back, making them feel like they're like their friends and helps them make good choices when they aren't at home.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:02:05 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I think you succeeded very well, COlleen :-)

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:02:38 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Shreddies are a type of Breakfast cereal

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:02:52 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Colleen B, you have done a great job with your books.
Ants on a log are 4 in. or so pieces of celery into which you put peanut butter. Then, you place raisins on them. Marissa first made them at D. day camp about 7 yrs. ago.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:08 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Probably like Shredded Wheat.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:13 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Thnx :^)

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:13 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
I'm sure ants on a log sounds great to 7 y/o boys! LOL Raisins on cream cheese or pb in celery, righ, Brenda?

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:26 Eastern US
Red (Aus) (Taylor 4 dxd 12/00) from 203.220.203.74
Hi, I've been lurking, but have to go now, and just wanted to say thank you for a very informative chat from everyone.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:35 Eastern US
Colleen C.- Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
That ends our chat tonight. Thank you Colleen and Shannon for sharing your experiences and recipes. Thank you chat participants for your questions and insights. And thanks to CWD for providing an online community for families dealing with diabetes.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:46 Eastern US
Colleen C.- Chat Moderator from 208.153.11.101
You can find the Kids Choice Cookbook recipes on LifeScan.com at http://www.lifescan.com/care/recipes/kids/index.html, and can order the book from Amazon.com or from the order form posted with this transcript.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:03:47 Eastern US
Connie from 207.107.254.186
You must be Canadian Colleen

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:04:36 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Yes, thanks to Colleen C. for arranging this and Colleen and Shannon for sharing their time with us.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:04:59 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Thanks Colleen B & Shannon and Colleen C!

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:05:03 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Yep, eh?

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:06:05 Eastern US
Gordo from 158.252.220.211
Bye heather and her friend

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:06:08 Eastern US
Connie from 207.107.254.186
LOL, me too! From the east coast originally, now from the west coast!

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:06:14 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Poor Connie misses most chats out there in B.C. Maybe some day we will plan a later one for you. Either that, or you need a job that ends earlier. LOL

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:06:44 Eastern US
Judith (David, 16, dx'd at age 2 months; Vanya, 17, dx'd at 6) from 65.171.1.17
Thanks, all. Goodnight.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:06:58 Eastern US
Connie from 207.107.254.186
LOL Brenda! I Can read the transcripts!!

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:07:05 Eastern US
Brenda H. (mom of Marissa, 14, dx'd 9/89) from 216.68.227.65
Bye all and happy cooking.

Wed Feb 6 2002 22:08:03 Eastern US
ColleenAndShannonBartley (Author) from 204.244.165.190
Heather: Goodbye! :^)



                 
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