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We held a chat about the Children With Diabetes CoPilot Web-Based Data Management System on Tuesday, February 11, 2003. The transcript is below.

A key advantage for users is that you need only go to the CWD website to perform your data management activities; there is no software that you need to order and install since it is all loaded on the site itself. In the same way, maintenance and upgrades of the program, whenever they occur, are all done for you. And the program is not confined to a single PC. It is accessible wherever the Web is accessible. Best of all, it is FREE.

The CWD CoPilot System is a convenient and effective tool to convert your, or your child's, blood glucose data to a variety of graphical and report formats for analysis by you and/or a Health Care Provider. The data is entered into the System by an electronic upload, if you are using either a FreeStyle Blood Glucose Monitoring System or a FreeStyle Tracker Diabetes Management System, or by manual entry. Easy-to-navigate screens with drop-down menus and short text entry blocks let you optionally add other logbook-related information to the file: insulin, medications, exercise, meals, state of health and related comments.

Additional valuable functions of the System are the ability to e-mail or fax reports directly to Health Care Providers and also to designate "permission" to one or more Providers, giving them access to view, or even fully maintain, the patient record.

The CWD CoPilot System has been developed for CWD through the sponsorship of TheraSense. A special CoPilot Help Desk is available to users at cwdcopilotthelp@therasense.com.

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After registration and log-in, the Start Page shows you how to fully navigate the site.
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Go to "Upload from Device" to perform an electronic data upload from either a FreeStyle meter or the FreeStyle Tracker. Click on the appropriate image to proceed.
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After upload or manual entry of data, you can then "Run Reports" that represents the data in graphical form.
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Reports can then be forwarded by e-mail or fax to one or more Health Care Providers to whom you have given "permission" in the System. A cover note can accompany the Report.


Chat Room Administrator Tue Feb 11 2003 20:00:00 Eastern US
The 'CoPilot' chat room is now open.


Tue Feb 11 2003 20:50:20 Eastern US
Daniel/FL (Pump) from 4.65.193.228
what is this room about?

Tue Feb 11 2003 20:54:31 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
A description of what this chat is about can be found at: www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/chat/copilotchat.htm

Tue Feb 11 2003 20:55:36 Eastern US
Daniel/FL (Pump) from 4.65.193.228
thanks Ed

Tue Feb 11 2003 20:55:52 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Good evening! Ed, glad to see you here. Is Judy here as well? I just posted a note on the parents listserv reminding folks that this chat would start right at 9:00!

Tue Feb 11 2003 20:56:48 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Hi Laura! I'm here!

Tue Feb 11 2003 20:57:45 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Great! Anyone else from TheraSense... Jeff told me it would primarily be you two. I'm happy we're getting the opportunity to chat about Co-Pilot.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:01:06 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Well, my clock officially reads 9:00, so I would like to welcome everyone to the Co-Pilot chat, sponsored by TheraSense. Our guest moderators this evening are Ed Farrell and Judy Kohn, both of whom work closely with the Co-Pilot system. Ed, can I ask you to give a brief overview of what the Co-Pilot is - some of its cool features - to get us started? My guess is that quite a few people who will chat - or who later will read this transcript - may not be familiar with it.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:02:23 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
:-) Hi, I'm here

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:03:22 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Hi Kate - Welcome! Are you familiar with the Co-Pilot system?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:03:57 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
HI Laura, yes, and that is why I am here...I have a couple of specific questions

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:04:29 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Go ahead and ask. I'm afraid I just asked Ed to type something long... so he'll answer your question when he's done with mine... or Judy will!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:04:44 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
Sure. CoPilot is data management online. The System basically enables you to enter blood glucose data by electronuc upload from a meter or via manual entry and then also add other logbook elements to the file and run reports from the data that can be just viewed online, printed out or even e-mailed or faxed to a caregiver.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:05:48 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Kate, feel free to ask your questions

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:07:55 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
OK :-)
My son has used the Freestyle for quite some time, so when the copilot and computer log system came out, we ordered it for him. I called and asked about the system and his computer...our original idea was just to used the software that comes with the cable. Here is where my problems begin.
1) My son's computer, like those of MANY kids, has Windows ME as the operating system. The software doesn't work with ME.
so, I discussed this at the CWD conference last fall with the therasense reps. They told me to have him use the online copilot system that Therasense has at their site (which I assume is like the one here)
leading to the BIG problem.
2) The firewall at his university will not allow him to send his meter data to co-pilot.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:08:12 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
This is an all-in-one System in that you can enter data, run reports and communicate the data
in a single session. The nice thing about the Web is that all of the software is installed on the website and there is nothing that you as a user needs to do to get started or to maintain and upgrade the application.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:08:45 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
So, now, we paid the $$$ for the cable, and we have an expensive cable, software that doens't work on his computer OS, and inaccessible online things

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:09:31 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Obviously, he can enter his numbers by hand, but that defeats the entire handy-dandy "you barely have to do anything" aspect of it, for a college student

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:09:55 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Judy - Right now, my understand is that the CoPilot just works with the Tracker and FreeStyle. What are the plans for it to work with other meters on the market? Will CoPilot ultimately be able to accept data from other meters?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:11:42 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Yes, Laura, currently CoPilot works with FreeSTyle and Tracker, as well as manual entry; we are currently looking at the option to allow other meters to upload

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:11:54 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
I just thoguth, that perhaps there were other people who thought the software would work with Windows ME, and it wont...or, folks who are hoping their at college kids can keep some sort of online record, and the university firewalls are too tough

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:13:12 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
Kate, we have run into the firewall situation in some clinics and it comes down to appealing to the
IT Dept. to review the site and set up the proper permission to let it through the firewall. The firewall is to keep out bad stuff not to keep out useful stuff. We could try contacting someone at the school if you would like.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:13:22 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
I didn't realize many people had Windows ME--I had so much trouble with it--my computer kept freezing--that I upgraded to Windows 2000 which solved the problem. Ed will comment on the firewall.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:13:39 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Kate, have you talked with the university? Any way to get around the firewall?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:13:56 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
I will find out who to contact, and let you know, if you will let me havae a way to contact you

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:14:31 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
MANY college age people have ME...it is a better platform for games and graphics

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:14:36 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
That would be a really good idea, for TheraSense to have the discussion with the university about how to facilitate your son using this.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:15:08 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
My son has checked into the firewall situation, but hasn't had a really good response...they like to keep it very tight due to viruses, etc

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:15:28 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
cwdcopilotthelp@therasense.com is the best way to e-mail us

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:15:35 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
if you have an way to access the interner other than through the univ (AOL? another ISP?), it will get you around the firewall issue. Or, talk with them. They are there to help the students, not to limit them.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:15:47 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
We will be happy to work with the university.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:16:14 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
I think I need to play with the reporting aspect of Co-Pilot a bit more. I'm not sure which is the most useful report. I like the pie graphs with the percentages, but also need something that pulls out and presents exercise and unique events. What would you recommend? Any way to custom tailor these reports so that you can show the pie charts and then perhaps a month's worth of exercise and "outlier" kind of events?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:16:14 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
I was also wondering if Therasense could check into a software upgrade, so people who have ME could run the program on their homw computer

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:16:31 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
the university IS the ISP provider

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:17:43 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Thanks, I took that down, will be in touch...I hope

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:18:06 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Laura, we're in version 1 at the moment. We are continuing to update the versions--many of which I discussed with you previously; so in time we hope to offer such reports

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:18:21 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
then I suggest that you let the TheraSense people talk to them, or let your son do. When I was at university, I talked to the dept, and they were much more open to a question coming internally than some outside company asking them. Do you know what the problem is (java being blocked, the particular website, etc?)

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:18:53 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Don't give up on it, Kate. Let these folks intervene for you. Co-Pilot is a very good system and it's easy to use once you get your system up and going!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:19:29 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
sorry, my computer timed out; Laura, I like the 14-day summary with stats--esp. since it breaks down the pre and post numbers

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:20:27 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Would it be helpful for people who are currently using Co-Pilot - and who have suggestions for types of reports they'd like to see - to send these suggestions to the address you provided? Or someplace else? As I work with it more, and as I show the info to our endo and CDE, we'll all have more comments about what would be most useful.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:21:03 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
yes, it is set up on my old Windows 98 computer at home...and he used it some here. But, you must understand, the whole purpose of having it is to make it easy, andif it means a walk round to the internet people, he wont get around to it. I liked the program here...just want it available. And, I ask again..is there any possibility of writing a software program that works on ME?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:21:13 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
Kate, you originally said that ME would not work with the FreeStyle software and that the TheraSense reps suggested trying CoPilot. The software that you are referring to is out PC-based FreeStyle Connect program, so I think that the incompatibility is with that and not with the Web-based CoPilot ??

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:21:43 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Absolutely, Laura--we'd love the feedback through that address, so we can compile it all in one place.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:22:01 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
I have a little difficulty with the time-frames. Most difficulty with pre and post lunch... lunch is a moving target in our house. School days are pretty stable, but weekends aren't, and that messes up the pre and post values... as well as the afternoon and dinner values (because what might appear as a pre-dinner bg one day might actually be a 2 hour post prandial reading for a late lunch.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:22:48 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
yes, when he connects to the web, using my 2000p or my old 98 program, it works fine...I don't know about the ME computer, ebcause we didn't connect it to the web at home

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:24:02 Eastern US
Shelley (Mom to Joshua, 3, dx'd. @ 20 mos. ) from 204.146.85.150
Laura - That was my main concern as well.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:24:04 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Laura, I know this is a challenge--it is so much easier with Tracker; I know you went back to FreeStyle due to size; but Tracker might be worth retrying, especially since we now have a carying case that allows you to test right in the case and it protects the tracker

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:24:42 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
IF he can connect to the web, obviously the web- program works. But I would like SOME way for him to be able to use the cable/computer software program in case he can't get to the web based one because of the firewall. That is why I am askig if there is an update for ME in the works.
Frankly, his current school is NOT accomodating about diabetes things

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:25:17 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Laura, also--if Sam wants to stay with FreeStyle, of course you could manually comment on each, right after you upload but before you hit "save" but this would be terribly time consuming and unrealistic...

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:25:36 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Aha...yes, I second that about the time frames...I wish they were not connected to meals, as once again, meal times vary depending on circumstances.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:25:39 Eastern US
Shelley (Mom to Joshua, 3, dx'd. @ 20 mos. ) from 204.146.85.150
I also can not remember now (I input manually so have been remiss), but does it allow carb counts?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:26:11 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
As long as he can connect to the Web, ME should be okay for CoPilot, so then the only hurdle is the firewall. I would bet the School Health Dept. has dealt with this before...

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:26:11 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
when you upload, there is a "review" screen, which lets you click a new time-category for each reading. So for each reading, you can simply select (by clicking your choice) which time-categry the reading should be assigned to. This should help out with the issue of changing meal-times.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:26:46 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
RE: Tracker--easy to enter carb counts; if you manually enter, then yes, there is a screen to enter carbs as well

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:27:06 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
So, youa re saying there will be no software which enables ME users to use the computer based program?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:27:43 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Well, maybe he will enter his scores manually, but I doubt it

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:28:50 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
I've also requested that ALL datapoints be included in the reports - not just one per time period. Sam's endo is very interested in how quickly he responds after a high or low - so all those bg readings 30 minutes and 60 minutes after a high or low need to be captured. I did hear back that this is being worked on. Good move!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:29:34 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
good idea, Laura

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:30:09 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
My computer keeps timing out! Kate, our engineers can get back to you re: ME

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:30:38 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
It's possible, but Web-based data management is pretty much the wave of the future and updates can be implemented there much more quickly.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:30:40 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Kate, also, have you called our customer service to have them walk you thru with Connect to see if it's something with the cable or ports?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:30:41 Eastern US
Shelley (Mom to Joshua, 3, dx'd. @ 20 mos. ) from 204.146.85.150
Kate - I doubt your son will take the time to enter it manually - I don't keep up with it & I'm anal-retentive! LOL!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:31:22 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Customer service is: 888-522-6226

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:31:59 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
my HCP likes me to send him weekly reports, over the fax. I logon to my account and generate the report, and the select "fax/email report", which i think is a cool feature. I don't have to worry about the process of "communicating" the report, and its free! I have also given my HCP access to my account, but just to review my reports (and not to change my settings, etc).

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:32:55 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
I talked to Therasense reps regarding this last year. It does not work with ME. When I ordered it, before I spent the money, I asked if it would work with ME, and they assured me it would. I really was ok with having to use the web (if he would) but then the firewall problem came up.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:34:19 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Kate, we need to resolve this. Please e-mail as we discussed and it will go directly to the data management expert.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:34:21 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Anyway, I realize you are not customer service people, but also think you should be aware of these glitches. Very difficult for college age students, parents trying to help from a distance. these advances look very promising, but if it takes too much work to actually use them, it won't happen...
Still it is a nifty thing

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:35:00 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Thanks...I ahev written down all the information, will double check with the school, and get back to you.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:35:50 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Appreciate your comments--we need to know what is going on and we do need to make this work for you

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:36:23 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
From our point of view, on the on-line copilot, if we can ever get to it...I wold like a page where there is a 24 hour spread (maybe there is one by now)...very irregular hours for older kids on the pump and in college

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:37:22 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Kate, I'm curious - does your son email his bg's back to you? I'm wondering what Sam will do when he goes to college. Or - maybe he'll live at home forever. :-)

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:38:14 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Kate, Laura will be chuckling now--this is the very page that is in the queue

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:39:15 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Laura, he IS emailing his numbers now (under all sorts of dire threats if he doesn't) but the IDEA was, he would use co-pilot, adn we would have access, and just check now and then

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:40:15 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
kate, I sure hope the firewall can be resolved. I even look at a friend's data (per his permission) and it is so fun and easy to do

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:40:40 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
I need a spreadsheet about the size of one entire wall to bring to our endo appt. I need to show the Team that the highs are almost always associated with a hockey game or my chicken pot pie... that we don't need to give an entire correction or he'll come crashing down, that his TDD has decreased about 20% since starting metformin b.i.d., and that the 200-250's for several day stretches are tied to illness. How do we show all that?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:40:43 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
Kate, the report which I use has 2 pages: page1 is a graphic-oriented 30-day overview (analysis, trends, medications, lab-results, while page2 gives each of the readings reported in those 30-days. Also, there is a comments-section, which explains individuals readings with whatever I enter.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:40:44 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
Kate, the report which I use has 2 pages: page1 is a graphic-oriented 30-day overview (analysis, trends, medications, lab-results, while page2 gives each of the readings reported in those 30-days. Also, there is a comments-section, which explains individuals readings with whatever I enter.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:42:07 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
opps! sorry about the double-post!?! :(

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:42:33 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Liam, I am lucky to get him to check his BG a few times a day...any further calculations are not happening at this point in his life with D

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:42:46 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
That report is too sketchy, though, Liam. We test 10-12 times daily, and often 2-3 times in the middle of the night. With kids and teens, you have to watch these numbers closely because there simply AREN'T trends. You have to respond to single episodes. So - writing in a comment every day and trying to explain in a footnote that there were two other readings in between the 56 and the 210 and you gave 45 grams of carb at 2:00 a.m. makes for a really long monthly report.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:43:44 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Laura, these systems take time to develop. I agree you have a challenge. We will review this transcript needless to say...

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:44:11 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
ah, Laura...you are in for a rude shock in a few years :-o

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:45:09 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
What I'm giving our endo now is a boatload of stuff. I give him the quick report from Co-Pilot. Then I print out ALL the bg readings from Connect. The I do a separate excel spreadsheet that has Sam's TDD, his exercise type and duration, illness, and metformin dose. I walk into our meetings with a PILE! Luckily, he likes all this info. Sam is a single subject case study on the effect of metformin in a teen.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:45:20 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
We received comments from a pump user who was able to improve control just by looking at the patterns

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:45:52 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Also, I'm not sure such a report is possible to design that has all the data captured in an easy to interpret graph

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:45:58 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
I jsut think getting a 24 hour spread, which doesn't lump the night into one blot, will be good. My son is up til VERY late, eats in the middle of the night, starts classes at 11 am, ends them late at night...very different schedule

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:46:01 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
Laura, you're right. I test 7-8 time, so i'm right at the threshold. Also, my parents don't have ANY access to my account, even through they're both doc's themselves:)

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:46:02 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
Laura, you're right. I test 7-8 time, so i'm right at the threshold. Also, my parents don't have ANY access to my account, even through they're both doc's themselves:)

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:46:10 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Judy - I'm not complaining. Just trying to verbalize the scope of what parents like me feel is important to document. The Co-Pilot is a great step forward. Now it needs to be modified, and I have no doubt at all that you'll be able to offer these things.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:46:47 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
We're definitely working on it!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:47:07 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Kate - LOL! Sam still tells me that he's going to live here through college and go to UM. That's fine. When he gets married, I'll quit testing him in the middle of the night. Maybe. :-)

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:48:49 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
You know...several different 24 hours spreads would be good...one for numbers, ones for eating, one for excercise...then they could be compared on some sort of overlapping graph. That way people could use only what they themsselves needed

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:49:33 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
Kate, i'm kinda a night-owl too, but I am able to set what my schedule looks like to CoPilot. I get to define before-breakfast, after-breakfast, before-lnch, after-unch, etc. But, I realize that these times are then set, not dependent on each day, or me just sleeping late ...

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:49:40 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
I should mention that I really do like the ability to email the reports to the endo. Any report. And you can set the parameter - so if Sam has had a really weird week in comparison to the last two months, we can send one week in detail, and then compare it with a different time period. That's a very cool feature. Just one click and off it goes to the endo and our wonderful CDE.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:49:58 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Kate, that's the very page we're working on

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:51:35 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Liam, my son is a musician, and his schedule isn't the same two days a month, much less two days in a row

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:54:49 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
So... is there a time line on when some of the modifications for Co-Pilot will be introduced to the public?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:55:14 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
It's almost time to end: any closing comments from anyone?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:55:16 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Yes, I was so excited by Connect, and co-pilot, because there are so many easy and quick ways to get a handle on what's going on...so, I hope we get it worked out

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:55:46 Eastern US
seeker from 141.154.117.81
Does anyone know where to find reviews of insulin pens?

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:56:09 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Mainly, remember many people still have Windows ME...and thanks a lot for listening. Glad you are working on a 24 hour report sheet

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:56:57 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Yes, I have a closing comment (of course). Although there were only a few of us actually chatting tonight, I'm sure there were a lot lurking. (yes, I know this group) And there will be a lot more folks who read this transcript in the days and weeks to follow. I want to make sure that everyone knows their comments are welcome. Please reiterate to whom they should direct questions and comments!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:57:34 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
To Seeker: Diabetes Interview had a good review--not sure if it's on their website;if not, please write to me at asktheeducator@therasense.com and I'll get you their phone number to get a back issue.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:58:14 Eastern US
seeker from 141.154.117.81
Thanks

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:58:14 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
This will be like all technology -- it will continue to evolve through new versions on an ongoing basis. There are development costs that need to be weighed against budget availability but
upgrades should keep coming pretty quickly.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:58:24 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Please e-mail CoPilot questions, problems, comments to: cwdcopilotthelp@therasense.com

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:58:39 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Seeker: Go to this page on CWD
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/d_06_000.htm and click on Insulin Pens. Lots of info.

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:58:52 Eastern US
Kate (son, 19, pump, college) from 199.174.221.19
Well, it is a wonderful idea...thanks for answereing our questions

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:59:26 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
You're welcome! Thanks for joining the chat!

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:59:30 Eastern US
Ed (Co-Moderator, Product Manager) from 63.64.66.3
Comments and questions to "copilothelp@therasense.com"

Tue Feb 11 2003 21:59:52 Eastern US
seeker from 141.154.117.81
Does anyone know someone who uses the Autopen by Owen Mumford?

Tue Feb 11 2003 22:00:29 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Judy and Ed, thank you so much for taking the time to answer questions and explain Co-Pilot to our CWD families!
For anyone who wishes to stay online, this chat room will remain open for 30 minutes.
Goodnight!

Tue Feb 11 2003 22:00:57 Eastern US
Judy Kohn (Diabetes Educator, CoPilot Co- Moderator) from 209.77.201.195
Goodnight!

Tue Feb 11 2003 22:01:06 Eastern US
seeker from 141.154.117.81
I apologize, I just realized I interrupted the Therasense chat

Tue Feb 11 2003 22:01:06 Eastern US
seeker from 141.154.117.81
I apologize, I just realized I interrupted the Therasense chat

Tue Feb 11 2003 22:01:35 Eastern US
Liam (programmer, geek, type-1, pumper.) from 24.171.117.139
Kate, perhaphs therasense should know which university is (potentially) causing problems for CoPilot, so that they can be sure to account for them in future versions of CoPilot. Could you tell them, so that they can perhaphs contact the univeristy, and understand their position? it would help out many other, I imagine. Have a great evening everyone!

Tue Feb 11 2003 22:03:41 Eastern US
Billetdeaux (Moderator, Sam's mom, 12, dx'd 8/98) from 68.43.235.39
Hi Seeker - It's ok. The chat is over. YOu might want to go to the parents chat and ask there. I don't know anyone who uses the particular pen you asked about. Did you look online at CWD Products (go to the main CWD page and click on products)? There are many, many reviews there. You should be able to find the info you need.



                 
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