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Feelings Matter: Stress and Diabetes
With Dr. Wendy Satin Rapaport

Chat Room Administrator chat@childrenwithdiabetes.com (206.112.197.133) Tue Oct 24 2000 20:07:04 Eastern US
The 'Feelings Matter' chat room is now open. Our special chat about Stress and Diabetes will begin at 9pm Eastern.

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:24:19 Eastern US
Kristy24 from 209.86.44.85
anyone here?

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:25:21 Eastern US
Jim, Daughter Kelsey 10 dx'd 5 mos ago from 152.163.201.66
hi

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:41:19 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Our host should be joining us in about 15 minutes.

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:44:34 Eastern US
Ellen from 152.163.194.198
Host or hostess? :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:51:19 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Oops ... Hostess

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:53:36 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Hi, Guys..

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:54:10 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
hi everyone

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:54:11 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Good evening Betty.

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:55:07 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
Hello all

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:55:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Hi Jeff

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:56:09 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Just waiting for Wendy to join us. I'll post a reminder in the parents room in a minute or two.

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:58:05 Eastern US
Ellen from 152.163.194.198
Betty do you know Wendy?

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:58:39 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Wendy's having a little technical challenge getting connected but is making progress

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:59:30 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97) from 205.188.197.46
Hi everyone

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:59:31 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Betty, holler if I can help.

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:59:41 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.81
Betty, didn't know you were type 2. Does that predate your professional involvement in diabetes?

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:59:46 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Yes, I do -- you're really going to enjoy this I think -- she's delightful and so good in this area

Tue Oct 24 2000 20:59:55 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
hi connie

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:00:27 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97) from 205.188.197.46
Hi Jen

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:00:31 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
What book did she write?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:01:10 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
No, Judith -- I got into diabetes partly because we had so much diabetes -- and then it eventually caught up with me

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:01:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
so muc in the family, lolol

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:01:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
She wrote a great book called "When Diabetes Hits Home"

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:03:03 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Hello everyone.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:03:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Jeff, we're in business - Wendy should be signing in any moment

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:03:23 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
good evening..reme,ber spelling doesn't count but feelings do

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:03:33 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97, Hubby type 1 33 yrs) from 205.188.197.46
Hi Tina

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:03:59 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 12, dx'd 2/89, pump 5 years) from 152.163.194.198
Hi Wendy. I feel stressed if I can't make it to our local pump support group....can you help with that? :-)!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:04:08 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
I guess that doesn't exclude anyone...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:04:10 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Good evening Wendy. Glad you could make it.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:04:21 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
welcome Wendy... I'v heard glowing praise of you by Ellen & I thoroughly enjoyed your book which she had recommended too!...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:04:22 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Wendy, thanks so much for hosting our Feelings Matter chat tonight

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:04:53 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Hello connie betty dr wendy jeff renee and anyone I missed.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:05:13 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
stress is not a dirty word, Ellen...correct?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:05:13 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.81
My mother was one of the original CDEs. Then her mother and my father developed type 2 and she gained a grandson with type 1

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:05:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Thanks Tina --

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:06:09 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
I am happy to be here..i know how much you help each other with sharing

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:06:12 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 12, dx'd 2/89, pump 5 years) from 152.163.194.198
Can't be - it has 5 letters !

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:06:16 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
I hope to read this book soon.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:06:51 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
hello everyone :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:06:56 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
stress raises bgs,isn't that true?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:07:36 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
no suppoet group even for those with d in my town it would ask alot for a pump support group locally as I might be the only one in the area??

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:07:38 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Thanks Renee, reading is part of the support we give ourselves...surely helps if its good material

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:07:49 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Hello from a tired Mom....is tired the same as stressed?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:08:02 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
support=suppoet

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:08:40 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
How is everyone? I think Heidyn stress does raise sugars my son gets high alot when stressed.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:08:54 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
it depends on what you do with the stress you realize...eating or skipping meals can effect you

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:09:24 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Yes, if you are a parent tired=stress

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:09:25 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
Wendy...do you find that diabetes impacts the family dynamics more so than other less "invisible" chronic illnesses?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:09:26 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
in some people, stress itself does raise blood sugar

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:09:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
jen - lots of folks in your situation - no support group handy or none really geared to their needs -- great thing about the Web - no geography problems

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:09:51 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
but that doesn't mean you have to stop doing what stresses you

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:10:05 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Wendy, I was going to ask if this was more for us stressed parents or people with diabetes who deal with stress and problems it causes their BG?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:10:29 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Hello Sandy . What have you thought was the important part of this book?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:10:37 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
lol it is terrific I happened to stumble on this site now it is my support group

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:10:43 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
Jen your not alone there is no support group in my area either except here..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:10:51 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
I think stress impacts everyone and eve3ry family differently, Renee...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:11:16 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Renee do you feel there is a difference from other illnesses

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:11:59 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
they said I could start one but I don't have time with kids and work and d...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:12:08 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Brenda, this is a "you all come" chat - equal opportunity stress for parents and for adults dealing with diabetes directly

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:12:22 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Brenda hopefully this can help everyone..since having a child with diabetes is clearly an additional stress to those of just being a mother

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:13:23 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Hi Tina, I liked Wendy's humor or her way of seeing the lighter side of all this serious stuff...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:13:26 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
handling and mastering stress as a parent Brenda can give you insight as to help your child...do you think?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:13:29 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
Wendy,so you think that even if something causes stress and high bgs you can still do it?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:13:31 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 12, dx'd 2/89, pump 5 years) from 152.163.194.198
One can start a support group by putting free ads in the community happenings section of a newspaper advertising for the support group they want to start....get some phone calls...then find a place to meet, park, rec center, local hospital...it may build slowly but it can happen and be great.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:13:42 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
I wonder if because our kids' diabetes is not so readily apparent, it's easier for siblings to be more resentful or for husbands to be more cavalier because a lot of what the mom stresses over is "anticipatory"( the "what ifs...") as opposed to say a more obvious impairment...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:13:56 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Renee, we found out in Aug. that Kathryn, 10, has asthma and needs a twice a day inhaler, allergy med in the a.m. and asthma med at night. I don't think this quite the same as Marissa's diabetes. I don't feel compelled to set my alarm to make sure she is breathing, while I check Marissa's BG once or twice every night. With Kathryn, we just carry an inhaler. With Marissa, we have the meter, sometimes the insulin pen, food, water, etc.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:14:16 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
How can I manage the stress of my chronic illness (psoriatic arthritis) with the stress of being primary caretaker of a very active type I 3 1/2 year old?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:14:28 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Thanks Sandy..and it is important that someone trying to help you see the light side never makes you feel that it is also very tough..understatement

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:14:39 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
I feel a lot of additional stress, since my daughters dx'd. Especially when it's time for insulin shot- and my 16 month old is screaming for attention.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:15:01 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Where I live their is only 1 other child with d she is 13 my son is 7. The specialist lives 5 hours away and the peds. live 1 hour away and the kids don't want to play with him and call him diabetic boy cause they think they will get d. He has had it 1 year now and has had 5 seizures.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:15:41 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Maybe you feel more competent the second time around of handling a chronic illness?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:02 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97, Hubby type 1 33 yrs) from 205.188.197.46
I agree Renee - Mike does well while I do the stressing!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:12 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
Ellen getting a room would be the easy part but what then??

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:14 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.29.235
hello everyone

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:20 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Amy, I think when you feel caught in the middle it is time for a time out for you...even if its short...first?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Tina, Where in AZ are you?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:23 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
I remember being extremely paranoid when Kathryn was an infant and I was nursing her. I kept a close eye on Marissa, fearing a low while I had to leave her poor sister screaming for food. Obviously that was a LONG time ago and I don't recall having serious problems.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:16:59 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Tina, do you have a nurse or another health professional to help you prevent seizures. This is the most stressful thing a parent can endure. You need someone to help with this burden, I'd say...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:17:34 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
someone posted a very interesting statement yesterday at a Parents' message board: that although diabetes involves a "grieving process" akin to suffering any other "loss", this one is NOT finite, so you can continue to experience those feelings anytime circumstances change...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:18:21 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 12, dx'd 2/89, pump 5 years) from 152.163.194.198
Jen, I found putting an ad for a support group parents of young children with diabetes generated several phone calls and eventually we all met and it became long term friendships. We just needed one another to talk. Sometimes you can get guest speakers, or meter reps ....but mostly talking and venting how you feel about raising a child with diabetes...and sharing hints about what works...feels great.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:18:22 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.29.235
that is very true renee

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:18:25 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Tina, sounds like a lonely situation which this is a good start to feel better...with concrete suggestions on educating others and not feeling denesive...well feelling defensive first but then keeping your humor

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:18:47 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Renee, you are right. I think I read that some professional called this "chronic sorrow"...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:18:53 Eastern US
Judy from NY from 24.161.8.39
Renee - I can relate to that - i had the feelings all over again when elissa was diagnosed with Grave's disease as well as diabetes

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:19:01 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3, pumping 3years) from 199.174.150.18
I have a 12yr old daughter with severe developmental disablities. Her situation certainly puts diabetes in perspective. While I still hate that diabetes puts an extra stress on our family, it is NOTHING compared to her problems.
I should have said HELLO ALL:-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:19:31 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
it sounds so simple ??hoe often would you do it..have meetings..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:19:33 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Brenda, my little guy has asthmatic like symptoms- they won't call it asthma yet- they think he'll out grow it- anyway on days that i have to give him nebulizer treatments, i feel like a hospital between the two of them

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:19:57 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
It's true..you have to figur out a way to stop the grieving...and recuperate faster...when things happen..because you have discovered that you have to be resilient

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:20:15 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Kristy, I never realized you had an older child. Sorry to hear that she has disabilities.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:20:17 Eastern US
GFlicka (PWD) from 64.12.104.186
Sometimes the stress is just too much. Besides drugs and alcohol what medications might help cope (temprariliy)?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:20:40 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
oooh..chronic sorrow...that sounds so sad...I do think though that in time it does get easier...either that, or the pump has afforded us a much more normalized lifestyle so we feel that sorrow less than we did when we were all tied in to the clock with shots....

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:20:47 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
Glad tonight is stress night.. For I have felt it all day.. Felt as if I am so tired and down and out.. But maybe tomorrow will be different..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:20:53 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Amy, you are keeping your humor with your description...does that help

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:21:19 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3, pumping 3years) from 199.174.150.18
Yes Brenda. Our Laurel has lots of challenges, but is a JOY on most days:-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:21:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
jen - for the support group -- if you can get a few folks with a common interest to respond to you, ask them and agree together how often and what fromat - the simpler the better to get started, usually

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:21:52 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
wendy - do you see kids with diabetes in your private practice...or is it always the whole family?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:21:52 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Pam, you are good in your thinking..expressing the feelings and reminding yourself thatyou will feel better later...tomorrow..good thing to teach your children too

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:22:17 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Amy, I had to give my son, now 6, neb. treatments when he was an infant. So far, I think he is fine. Hasn't needed a treatment for a very long time (5years or so). Marissa was complaining about breathing during gym last week so I might have her tested for asthma when I can get her in for a flu shot (not yet available at the ped.'s office).

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:22:26 Eastern US
jen{PA} (pumping day 16) from 12.4.186.160
good advise BettyB thanks..I am cinsidering trying

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:22:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
And jen -- most groups meet once a month - but there are no "rules' about this - just what th group agrees to

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:22:37 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
I think it must take along time before the dx'd stress gets easier-like ten years +

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:22:55 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Renee, I see kids and their families..but sometimes people like their privacy and don't want to see the same person as someone in their family

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:23:21 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
Hi everyone.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:23:29 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
I worry some that Marissa will revolt some day with "I'm tired of diabetes and I'm not going to test ever again."

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:24:20 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
We have dealt with him not getting low and the specialist said their is nothing we can do he is just one of the kids that will have them. He said we are doing what we can. He has seizures out of nowhere even when he was sleeping at 4 am the dogs woke us up. My 1 year old has seizures she started having them when she was 7 mos. They have done tests and found nothing. She now is on phenobarbital. Shortly after I had her I found out my son had d. and I had cervical cancer and had my uterus removed. Me and my husband do this with not much help from even family . just 1 sister out of 7 of us . helps. and will do shots.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:24:25 Eastern US
Karen(UK) (mum) from 62.60.38.139
My son suffers taunting at school...children play games, by touching him and then touch someone else, and say 'diabetes no return'. On his first day back at school after diagnosis, one boy said to him that he wished my son had died whilst in hospital. How do I cope with the emotions whirling around in his head, and the fears he has? He has Asthma too. He now feels he is so different. He is the only diabetic at his school.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:24:30 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Heidyn..if you think it takes 10 years to reduce stress and you are on number 2????Maybe you can readjust the number

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:24:44 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Brenda - my son says he is tired of diabetes and he doesn't want it anymore.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:24:50 Eastern US
Maryann (mi) (Jill 15, dx'd 96, pumping 1 yr) from 63.23.175.9
I feel that advocating on our childrens behaves is a nobel cause, but on the other hand I am grateful that diabetes does NOT show. Jill's life and friendships would not have developed the same if other kids had seen her have seizures or heard any other scary facts. I am grateful she can blend in

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:24:53 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Pam, I asked about tiredness and stress in the beginning tonight.....I feel tired all the time, and think this is "stress"

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:25:16 Eastern US
Renee (Melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
Brenda...you read my mind...I've recently spoken to several moms of rebellious teens who are being blatantly non-compliant & the moms are distraught...how do you help someone who's so angry & believes hurting his/her mom will enable them to run away from the diabetes?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:25:17 Eastern US
Judy from NY (Elissa..dx@ 15mo..college sophmore now..pumping 16yrs) from 24.161.8.39
Brenda - I swear, I'm still waiting for that with elissa!! It wouyld be wonderful if it never happened

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:25:27 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Brenda..it is good that you are anticipating(hopefully not obsessing) about the "revolt"..and you will be there for her with calm and interest rather than fright

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:25:32 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Wendy - GFlicka was asking about meds for stress.. what would you suggest for someone who was feeling very stressed -- maybe before going the medication route?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:25:34 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
Justin got tired one day and refused to test and threw his monitor and said he hated this disease.. And that was nothing like him for hes usually a person joking all the time.. so I told him on days like that to go ahead and say how he feels.. Is there any thing else I can do to help him when he gets so tired.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:26:15 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
I don't think so,alot of people I've talked to with d says it takes aleast that long

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:26:22 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Sandy, tiredness can be stress but it is always important to make sure there is not a medical reason first...and don't assume you should "live" with badfeelings..help feels good

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:26:55 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
And it still feels that way for me

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:26:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Bravo, Pam --

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:27:55 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Pam, It was nice how you take him so seriously and welcomingly..it takes courage to hear our children in pain...asking him if he wants a short "vacation" is helpful(Mornings for a week..you ake over?)

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:28:14 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Pam, I felt good just hearing how your reacted to your son.....so it must have helped him too!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:28:42 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
another stressful time for us , is sometimes meal times- not being able to get enough carbs into, especially in a timely fashion. meals can drag on as I am trying to get her to eat.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:28:47 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Heidyn, what in particular feels so heavy for you?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:29:54 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Amy, if you give her Humalog as her short-acting insulin, you can wait and give it AFTER she eats to prevent lows. That might help reduce your mealtime stress.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:29:59 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
Melissa will occasionally not want to re-insert her pump infusion set because she just needs to feel "free" for a while...I encourage her to do so, knowing that if she goes a little higher, she can just bolus to bring her bgs down...need to release some of that "pressure" build-up I guess!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:30:06 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Betty..what are your thoughts for Amy about perhaps lessening the intensity of how much she must eat by changing the timing of the shot?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:30:34 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
knowing that how ever much I try I can't get stuff regulated,so of course I'll get complications

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:30:44 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
Betty I sure couldnt tell Justin not to do it when there are days my self I could do the same thing.. But dont for it wouldnt make this go away.. It seemed to help him for now he tells me when hes tired of it and I try and tell him we will do something different when he feels that way.. and try not to let him know when I feel frustrated..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:30:45 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Please forgive me everyone if I do not answer your questions..but come back at me..this "chat" stuff is wonderful but still new to me

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:31:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy, trying to get a 2 1/2 year old tp eat the same amount every day is like Don Quixote's Impossible Dream -- lots of mealtime stress for all of you -- there are some things that can be done with insulin and food plans to reduce that problem

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:31:22 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Haren uk My son is also taunted and called diabetic kid and some kids will not play with him because they think they will get d and they hit him and gave him bruises on his ankles.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:31:36 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97) from 205.188.197.29
I worry sometimes that Mike is perhaps holding his stress in.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:31:47 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Pam..that is great..let other adults know of your frustration rather than your son..so he is not afraid to complain to you

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:32:04 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Dr. Wendy, you are on the ball!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:32:27 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Brenda- we are just entering into - adjusting insulin ourselves- astually the next appt. with the endo- she is going to teach us. That sounds like it might help us. How bout tonight she feel asleep soon after dinner with no night time snack. I am going to test her in a few minutes- if a good number do I need to worry about waking her up to eat or drink something?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:32:30 Eastern US
Karen(UK) (mum) from 62.60.38.139
Tina ........how old is your son?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:32:40 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Amy - I keep plenty of applesauce and pudding on hand for when I can't get Kendall to eat all of his carbs and he has had his shot.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:32:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Pam - I loved Wendy's suggestion to offer to give him a break -- what would he like you to take over for a while --

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:32:49 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) from 152.163.194.198
Tina, my son takes karate...and is learning he is not anyone's victim. You may want to find something like that for your son.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:33:04 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Heidyn if you are having trouble regulating..then you need different help than you are getting..and of course being out of control BIOLOGICALLY makes you feel bad. Perhaps you are connecting "out of control" numbers..incorrectly with "guaranteed" problems?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:33:06 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Karen (UK)--have you spoken with the responsible school authorities? Have you considered giving a talk to the class about diabetes? Perhaps the other children just don't understand the disease.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:33:08 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Have you had family members not even help you and not come over as much since your child was diagnosed?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:33:48 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Amy, what insulin did she receive at dinner time?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:33:48 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Tina, I agree with Ellen..getting your child to master a physical sport is a great antidote tot eh pain of diabetes

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:33:56 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Tina, where in AZ are you? And does your child have type 1 or type 2?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:34:14 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
Thats why I am on here tonight so I can get some relief from being tired and frustated and then tomorrow I will be ready to tackle another day.. Betty he would like for me not to make him test his blood sugar all day.. other than that I do pretty much everything.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:34:20 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
only NPH 2 units- that's her normal dose at this point

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:34:42 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
Wendy,wouldn't you say having bad numbers eventually does cause problems?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:35:18 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I have just entered the conversation - are you talking about a particular topic or just chatting?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:35:29 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Pam, what kind of feelings does your son express when he tests..hopefully they are not about failure or fear but what to do next?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:35:32 Eastern US
NMartmom (Mary's Mom, 7, dxd 9/97) from 205.188.200.181
hi

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:35:56 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
ike - this chat is about dealing with stress

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:36:17 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
I feel that I'm just being realistic about the matter

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:36:22 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
good - that's what I was hoping when I read the ad on the home page

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:36:31 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) from 152.163.194.198
Tina, none of our family members ever helped with our child and his diabetes. That was painful. In retrospect I should have empowered someone outside of the family to help so I could have some time to myself and my relationship with my husband.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:36:35 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
My son has type 1 and I live in Winslow. Right now there is only a nurse there at school for half a day. He plays baseball.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:36:41 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Amy if she received NPH, then it may not peak until around 2 a.m. She is probably going to need some kind of snack. There's a book called "Grilled Cheese at 4 O'Clock in the Morning" in which a boy skips snack because he's high. He wakes up low and needs a snack, as you can guess by the title. You could try some milk and make sure you test her around 2 or 3 a.m.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:37:13 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
People don't realize what it takes to care for a diabetic child - especially one who is very young and can't do any of the care himself. They don't realize that every carb must be counted, and a scxhedule must be kept, and monitoring is never ending...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:37:32 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Heidyn, some people are lucky in spite of spending many years poorly conrolled to do well....and yes it makes sense that better control can prevent problems..do you find fearis i n your way?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:08 Eastern US
Karen(UK) (mum) from 62.60.38.139
Brenda...I have spoken to the school and the boys have been reprimanded, but that does not help my son. He feels different.....he has ginger hair..so he stands out in a crowd. He is the only diabetic in the school, so he stands out. He is not a fighter, so he does not retaliate. He bottles his emotions up, and gets so depressed.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:22 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
is this only for parents, or for diabetics too? I am a college student with Type I.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:27 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Mizbar..people don't understand but you will be lucky to try to find people who are interested in trying to understand?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:39 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
If Justins tests and hes okay he is fine and if its high he gets angry at it at times.. That is really what he doesnt like to do is test.. He will turn the monitor away so he doesnt have to look at the numbers and I have told him what ever they are we will deal with it..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy -- if Gabrielle is only taking NPH insulin, the rush to get the carbs in right at supper does not have to be huge -- you can add some to the bedtime snack - in a form that Garielle really likes (so she's more likely to take it without an argument) Fighting over food is such a central battle for parents and kids dealing with diabetes -- but with the right info and treatment, you can take a lot of the pressure of this area

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:49 Eastern US
Sandy (Tired Mom) from 152.163.197.207
Dr. Wendy, I agree with you. I learned that there is no guarantee that good control protects you.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:38:56 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.29.235
i agree with you completely mizbah. my husband doesnt even understand what i go thru every day

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:39:04 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
welcome Ike..what are your thoughts about stress

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:39:41 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
mizbar, my thoughts, feelings, &frustrations exactly!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:39:45 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Sandy, I didn't mean to emphasize that..I meant that poor control is not defintiely connected to problems

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:39:59 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
My family use to let my son sleep over and always take him over or to the store. Now they don't since 1 year ago when he got it . They hardly see him anymore except whenhe is at the store.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:40:12 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I am trying to learn ways to get rid of it, or at least deal with it, the last few weeks have been especially bad - sort of like when I was first diagnosed.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:40:43 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
Pam..that was one of many aspects of pumping that was so therapeutic...melissa too HATED seeing inexplicably high bgs when she felt she'd done "nothing wrong"...so being better able to "predict" her bgs with the pump was amazingly empowering for her....Doesn't always work, but far far more likely to be predictable than were hr bgs on shots...especially with hormones!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:40:49 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
We are lucky- we live near Buffalo, and the Diabetes Clinic at Children's Hospital is fantastic. They have a nice social worker, who was helping us about 5 minutes after my son was diagnosed. The Nurses are great and we have 24 hour diabetes doctors and staff on call

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:41:02 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
I have had my son with d then I had cancer and my baby at 7 months had seizures and they don't know why.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:41:05 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty- she actually had an okay dinner- even a cookie for dessert- but now no snack. And this is often a problem to keep her up two hours past dinner time to get a snack into her

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:41:17 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Ike, sorry this is a rough period..do you know what triggered these new painful but recognizble feelings? Remember you handled it once

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:41:17 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
mizbar,who do get that from the most?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:41:40 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
You're right about that mizbaz. It took about 5 years before my mom realized that although we could come to her house for holiday dinners, Marissa could not eat a huge meal at 2 p.m. She finally started feeding the kids (we have 3 and my siblings have none) around 12 and they could snack while everyone else dined. Our neighbors were also surprised the few times I've mentioned seeing lights at so-and-so's house in the wee hours and figured a child was sick. I'm up at all hours testing Marissa and I often look around to make sure everything's ok in the area. (we've had some vandalism in the past 5 months)

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:42:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
The relationship between control and complications is definitely there for BIG groups of people -- but for an individual, it's not possible to say -- but it's like playing the odds with Jimmy the Greek - better control improves your odds for a good health outcomes but it is no guarantee -- and poor control increases your odds for health problsm but is not a sure thing either.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:43:02 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
about six months after dx'd-I got a d.complication which is now reversed-but I am afraid that since so soon after dx'd some d complication happened because of poor control it will happen easier in me

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:43:08 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Yes, I think it is a lot of school pressure, a lot of other medical problems (chronic, but some have flared up lately) and a real feeling of loneliness right now. (my mom recently moved out of state). I talked to the deiabetes social worker about it at Children's but right now I can't even talk about things anymore without crying.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:43:10 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Shannon - mostly from my relatives who can't understand (or don't want to ) why I am what they call "overprotective". They weren't there when my nearly comatose son was in the ambulance. They don't realize what high and low blood sugars can do no matter how many times you explain it

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:43:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy - how much time between dinner and bedtime usually?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:43:23 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Amy, I would think that a higher fat milk with dinner might help with the later hours. Hope she likes milk!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:43:29 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Brenda and mizbar..sometimes family neglect comes from ignorance or the same fearthat you had originally in learning how to handle things..and you got over it..you had to..ask themto "have to" face it too??

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:44:05 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
I hear you.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:44:10 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
hello

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:44:44 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Hello Many -- welcome

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:44:44 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Ike keeping talking to the professionals so you will get that constant support and feedback..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:45:01 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Is there anyone here who is a diabetic, and not a parent of a diabetic?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:45:11 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Betty you live in Tucson the specialist is from there.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:45:17 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
I am diabetic

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:45:19 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
thanks BettyB.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:45:40 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Brenda- should I try to get the milk into her now or wait a few hours- if the insulin is going to peak around 2? Betty- we try to eat dinner around 6pm often it is a little bit later- but sometimes dinner takes a long time . the dietician has her on a snack two hours after meal time- sometimes that can be 9 pm.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:45:57 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
I have asked them to face it - but to them it's more like it's your son you handle it. Brenda - I am still at the point 1 1/2 years after diagnosis where I take all my son's food and snacks even on holidays - because they seem to find it an inconvenience to "cater" to Kendall.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:06 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
No, Tina, I live in Gilbert -- and our diabetes center is in Tempe -- just trying to get a read on where you are if I might know of some resources for you

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:09 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Jeff and I had to go out of town together about 2 yrs. ago and convinced my mom to come babysit. She learned all about blood tests and the pump in 2 days, then we left for 2 days. She was great (got tired of us paranoids calling home to check on Marissa). She even tested Marissa's BG at 2. It only took 9 years!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:09 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Hi Heidi, how old are you? (If you don;t mind me asking)

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:11 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
my daughter gets very depressed about being "not a normal" child

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:43 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
No matter what the "facts" are..you are all individuals and must make "peace" with the challenges so you do not fear them everyday? Yes easier said than done..but important to change our philosophies?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:46 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
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Tue Oct 24 2000 21:46:52 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Betty who is your childs doctor?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:47:03 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
ike--how old are you? I am assuming college age.

Amy, what kind of milk does she drink?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:47:25 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
goodnight,everyone,and thanks for the chat...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:47:33 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
you are lucky Brenda, alot of our friends dont want to look after Brooke as they r too scared. her readings r still unstable

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:47:38 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
So we are at about the same stage in life. Do you go to school? Are you Type I?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:00 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Oh, sorry. goodnight, Heidi

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:12 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Mandy, what do you mean by depressed? and can others help with ideas that differ from "not being normal"...is there ""good special?"

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy -- sounds like she's just nit likely to be hungry for a snack 2 hours or less after a good supper... you just can't hardly fight with a two year old's appetite -- forcing just leads to hassles -- ood research shows that when kids are forced, they actually end up eating less as a rule

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:32 Eastern US
Heidyn (dx'98) from 164.106.22.63
maybe I'll chat sometime else,ike

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:38 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
mizbar, my husbands family doesn't have a clue. My parents are interested & supportive, but I still don't get out much! I have areally good friend & her son is the same age, but I get no emotional support from her! I thought I would, but she doesn't ask & shows no interest & doesn't have much of a clue what my day involves. Maybe my expectations are too high .

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:41 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97) from 152.163.213.186
Wendy, are there any signs to watch for too much stress in our children?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
oops - make that NOT likely to be hungry! LOL

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:47 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Brenda- 2%- I believe that's what they recommeded- but i guesss it should change with her situation

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:55 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
Dr Wendy is there any studies on diabetes and puberty my daughter is developing quite young and i was 13 when i developed puberty

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:48:59 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Mandy, as I said, it took 9 yrs to get someone to help. We do have a young woman 6 houses away who is Type 1 and could help in an emergency.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:49:28 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
This year has been rough at the school they said they wouldn't give him his shot of glucagon. Then they changed their mind. At the beginning of school they did not have a nurse I had to go to the school to check his sugars.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:49:35 Eastern US
Sandy, again from 205.188.199.153
Mandy puberty makes diabetes harder I learned that with my kid, right Dr. Wendy?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:49:49 Eastern US
pam (mom of Justin 14 dx jan 99) from 216.98.91.69
gotta go its time Justins snack but I have enjoyed the time I had to relieve some stress.. Hope everyone has a good day tomorrow... good night..

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:50:11 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Amy, if it were me, I'd try it pretty soon to be on the safe side.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:50:24 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
she is the only d in a school of nearly 900 and we have had alot of trouble with teachers understanding it all they send her to sickbay when she is quite low and it has knocked her confidence in herself

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:50:30 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Connie, good question about recognizing stress..and your son at 14 is a difficult age to ddifferentiate...so we have to TALK of course(and there are wonderful new books about talking with boys and raising them)..and then lok at sleeping, school work, isolating from friends.....

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:51:34 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Shannon - the person I can discuss the most with is the mother of another Type I diabetic diagnosed the same time as Kendall. They were in hospital rooms near each other. Robbi and I would not normally be friends, but theis "bond" has helped us both - I do know that

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:51:37 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Night, Pam, thanks for joining in

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:51:48 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Yes, Sandy and Mandy (see you are a team)..puberty effects the actual blood sugars...frustrating because even if a kid is doing everything"right"..the requirements could change...

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:51:56 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Betty who is your childs doctor? Dr. Wendy do you think my son feels let down from my sisters.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:52:33 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
hi Connie, Dr. we are very lucky in that Brooke keeps up her testing and is quite mature in how she handles her d but it is the people around her i guess that their ignorance gets her down at times

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:52:35 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
It feels so good to hear the warmth you have for each other and the good ideas...soak it in..it is part of the stress management

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:53:27 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
i was just wondering if the d could bring on early puberty or not

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:53:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Tina, I don't have a child with diabetes. I have diabetes myself, but also am an educator with a diabetes center in Tempe --

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:53:34 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Remember social support--for you and your children..is crucial for feeling connected and not being alone with thoughts that haunt us or are incorrect

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:53:38 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
How old is your child Betty? hello.......

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:54:13 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
I acknowledge that Jeff and I probably cause much of Marissa's stress. She says we are too strict and fights with us about many things. We won't allow her at the mall, with friends, without an adult; she can't go to the movies, amusement park, etc. w/o an adult, and so on. She claims all her friends are allowed to do so and throws tantrums about this, which I'm sure causes elevated BG's. Sometimes we are esp. careful because she has diabetes, but mostly it's because I feel the world just isn't safe any more, a sad commentary on life.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:54:15 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
this chat site (parents) has been a godsend with the support i have received from everyone i couldnt be without it now

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:54:36 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97) from 152.163.213.186
Hi Mandy. I very glad Mike does talk to me. He has handled everything very well - so far!

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:54:39 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
I don't fell comfortable leaving my son with my husband. My husband tends to "forget the time", and we miss snacks, and breakfast and shots. He just doesn't pay attention, and I can't trust that he will recognize lows.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:54:45 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
When we help our children and ourselves"anticipate" the ignorance...we can feel removed from it and not take it personally..maybe feel bored..that would be better or learn to have a sense of humor

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:54:54 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Has anyone else had this problem - I want more than anything to be healthy and happy, but some people (at church, etc., not professionals)have actually said that I am "keeping myself" in the position of being sick. I am quite vigilant about tight control and I use a pump. I am headed for medical school soon and I don't want to end up with preventable complications 20 or 30 years down the road.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:55:07 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty - is is possible that she could go low in the middle of the night, but be a good or high number in the am?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:55:08 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
There are several parents support groups in the Phoenix area -- wondering if I could get you hooked up with someone near where you live, Tina.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:55:38 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Like I tell kids, if someone asks you if diabetes is catching..be glad they asked you..instead of sneaking around..and with a twinkle in your eye say"ONLY if I don't like you."

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:55:46 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
same here mizbaz we have had a few close calls with hypos thankfully i have arrived home in time

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:56:07 Eastern US
Karen(UK) (mum) from 62.60.38.139
Wendy.......my son suffers taunting at school about diabetes, he sleep-walks when worried, he doesn't seem to have many friends (only one or two), he doesn't want to be 'special' or 'different' he just wants to blend in with the crowd.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:56:12 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy, yes, that can happen -- it's why many parents and folks with type 1 test at least occasionally at 2-3 am -- to see what the pattern of the blood sugar is over night

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:56:13 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
I think some people here need alot of educating . The doctors aren't very good. My sisters sugars were running 500 and higher and the doctor did not tell her to take extra their are no spes. and my sister just sees a regular doctor. I told her sher needs to see a specialist. Are their any way of getting a menu for the school .?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:57:11 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Ike when people make those comments it is good to ask them to tell you more about why they are saying it..it labels it more as their problem...sounds like you are proactive and perhaps that is intimidating to others?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:57:19 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
ike - I bet you 10 to 1 that these people don't know what it is to have a chronice condition - if they did they would know that you need to be the way you are to deal with diabetes

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:57:38 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
i actually caught brooke out on our front lawn at midnight one night calling for me in her sleep i tested her and she was high now we lock all our doors at night

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:57:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
If she takes her NPH at abut 6pm, it is likely to be peaking about that time -- and that's where the risk for a llow originates -- you can try giving the dinner NPH in the buttocks to slow it down -- and the bedtime snack has to be something that's digested REALLY slow to hand around a prevent a low 5-6 hours later

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:07 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Dr Wendy do you think my son feel s abandoned by his aunts. ?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:11 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty- why or how could a fasting blood sugar be high? is it not enought long acting insulin?

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:38 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) from 152.163.194.198
I've had people tell me they were "sorry" to hear my son's diabetes was so bad he had to go on the pump. I just use it as an excuse to educate them about diabetes and the pump....and I feel better after explaining it....even if they don't fully listen.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:44 Eastern US
Sandy, again from 205.188.199.153
Mandy, this has happened to me too. Our son was out with the dog and we were asleep....

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:46 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Karen, can yu and your son come up with other strategies as to how to handle the "predictable" taunting? I hope it can be with humor or some support from the school? Have you checked out the sleep walking professionally

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:49 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
ike--many parents get that about their children. For ex., Aunt Barb asking, "Are you sure Susie is allowed to eat a brownie?" Aunt Louise, "Susie put back that cookie; you have diabetes and can't have it." It's all a matter of education and most of the education that society in general gets is about Type 2, the more prevalent of the two major types of diabetes.
One thing that annoys me a lot these days is all the press about kids with Type 2 and that most of the stories fail to distinguish between the types.

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:58:53 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Mandy - that must have been scary, to say the least

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:59:27 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Ike I hope you look at Ellen's comment about her son

Tue Oct 24 2000 21:59:46 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Yes, I think it is very intimidating to others, especially because I have read everything I can on the subject and have a photographic memory (the doctor's at Children's Hospital diabetes clinic said my control was enviable and that I was one of the most compliant patients they had). But it just makes me so frustrated I want to cry - do they think I WANT to have to watch everythin I eat, and test my blood all the time? I just don't understand. It is very hurtful.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:00:05 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) from 152.163.194.198
Tina, I felt abandoned by my family for not helping, I'm not sure my son felt that way...

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:00:12 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
ike - if you are comfortable in the way you are dealing with diabetes, and you don't let it keep you from doing what you want to do - you are in control not the diabetes.What others say shouldn't make a difference

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:00:57 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Brenda, Aunt Louise needs to answer better..it is not forbidden to eat cookies..unless that is HER policy in her house...as individuals we make choices?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:01:04 Eastern US
Karen(UK) (mum) from 62.60.38.139
Wendy, my son is frightened to get the taunters in trouble, so he keeps it to himself. But he has always walked in his sleep when troubled. That is usually the reason I find out that something is wrong.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:01:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy, a fasting BG could be high for a couple of reasons 1) not enough NPH (dose), 2) running out of the NPH because of the long time lag (that's why I suggested giving the shot in the butt, 3) a low during the night can trigger the body to release sugar from the liver causin a high the next morning

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:01:20 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Ellen, that is very true - I went on the pump because I was good at staying in control and wanted to be even better and have more flexibility.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:01:23 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
I got an e-mail today from a pumper mom. She said her son was bolusing in his sleep, that he'd been dreaming he was eating and needed insulin. Scary...

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:01:53 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) from 152.163.194.198
Brenda that is scary! Can they set the bolus limit to zero at night?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:02:08 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Ike don't be afraid to give feedback..let people clarify first and then speak up about how it impacts you..bottom line it is hard to work so hard..no breaks

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:02:37 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
yes it was very scary, Brookes prob at school now is that now she is on the pump she can have the occassional lolly but when the teachers give the other kids as rewards they dont believe she can have them so they give her a sticker and she hates that

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:03:07 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
thats awful Brenda that would be really scary how could u stop that

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:03:13 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Do you have any ideas Betty? I wish more educators were able to be around to talk. My son was spoiled by my sisters now he hardly talks to her when he does see her.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:03:20 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
ike--sounds like you are doing a great job taking care of yourself and you should make a wonderful doctor. I saw some t.v. show about a month ago in which a "dwarf" (a thousand pardons for not remembering his exact physical condition) became a orthopaedic surgeon, specifically for treating people with the same physical defect he has. He was really cool!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:03:31 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
I am going to sign off now..thanks for letting me be apart of all the wisdom you have in yourselves and in what you share with others/ I think you hear your wisdom when you answer others..and giving to each other is part of stress management

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:03:35 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Many - that must be awfully hard for her -- have you tried taking them information to change that behavior?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:03:43 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Yes, I want to be able to do that without sounding defensive, which really puts people off.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:06 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
BrendaH... I just had acomment yesterday, by a girlfriend & she told her son, don't eat those cookies...because they're Jordan's cookies & they're special! How do I respond to that without sounding defensive? Because defensive is what I want to get!!!!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:08 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Ellen, I don't know. It was with a Dis. pump and I don't think it's a common occurence, maybe only once.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:16 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
thanks Dr Wendy....easy to see why Ellen is so enthusiastic about your help!!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:18 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Wendy, thanks so much -- this has been a great chat - you are a queen!!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:18 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty- sorry to bombard you with all of these questions- I never can get them all straight at the doctors. If her BG is good range before a meal- she has a good meal staying with in her carb limit , why would her BG be over 200 after the meal? is that normal?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:42 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
goodbye dr wendy thanks ...,......,lkuy

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:49 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Remember to talkout things, take any signs of anxiety or depression seriously and get whatever hlep is needed, use exercise as an antidepressant, learn to laugh and think differently about the tough stuff

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:04:57 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Ike - where do you go for treatment?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:10 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
yes i have given the school all the info i have and had someone come and talk makes no difference we have a school nurse now but she is only there for 3 hours a day its not enough when the teachers dont want to deal with it makes u scared to send her to school

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:12 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Thanks Dr. Wendy for providing us with your expert commentary. Seems like we could go on forever with this particular subject! :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:13 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
Thanks Dr. Wendy & goodnight.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:16 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
Thanks Wendy

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:22 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) from 152.163.194.198
Thanks Wendy!!!! :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:30 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Brenda, dwarf is actually the correct terminology )probably achondroplastic) I think I saw that too. I try to keep thinking that - that I am going to be a better pediatrician for all the time I have spent in the hospital and at clinics.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:36 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Thank-you, Wendy

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:05:37 Eastern US
Dr. wendy rapaport..wendy from 205.188.200.166
Betty, you are the queen! you are so wonderful and there for people with ideas and support and fun...and take it in for yourself too love.....

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:06:26 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
Ike..my daughter also wants to go into pediatrics...there's definitely a need for more empathetic physicians & sounds like you'll be a great one

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:06:30 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
bye Dr Wendy and thanks sorry i couldnt get in here earlier

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:06:49 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Tina, the first thing I'd suggest is coming back here - to the parents chat rooms - and reading all the good info that's on the Children with Diabetes site -- sounds like you and your son could relly use the support -- are you working with educators with your specialist in Tucson?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:07:09 Eastern US
Connie (MI) (Mike, 14, dx 12/97) from 152.163.213.186
Bye Dr Wendy and thank you!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:07:11 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
ike--maybe you should just tell everyone that you are very special, that because you have diabetes you are one of the "chosen ones." :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:07:11 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
mizbaz, I go to Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh, and when I first got my pump I went out to Children's in Philadelphia a few times.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:07:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Muchisiams gracias Senora!!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:07:33 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Thanks for the encouragement, Renee. How old is your daughter?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:08:04 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
she's a senior in high school...was put on a pump at Children's in Phila

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:08:31 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
off topic - but how did you guys put the cwd. smiley face at the end of your messages?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:08:32 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
We got to Children's in Buffalo. I am so impressed with thie knowledge. One of our CDE nurses has diabetes and has been on the pump for a long time - it is great to be able to ask someone who lives with it for advice and help

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:08:54 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy -- sorry almost lost your message! Since Gabrielle is only taking NPH insulin, she doesn't have a "peak" of insulin toi handle the carbs when she eats, so she will have a rise in her BG after meals

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:09:28 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Oh, cool. Which Dr. did you guys see? I saw Dr. Weinzimer (sp?) and Heather Mcknight and Nicole the dietitian and Kathy Murphy

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:09:46 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
ike - just type the colon, dash and close parentheses and VOILA! :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:09:50 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty- she does take .5 r in the morning-

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:09:51 Eastern US
Brenda H. (Marissa, 13, dx'd 9/89, pump 2 yrs) from 10.0.1.3
Without the spaces, use a colon : a hyphen - and a closed paranthesis ) :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:10:31 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
:-) like this?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:10:41 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
Melissa's CDE has type I & wears a pump..Having had him "mentor" her these past 4 yrs has been wonderful....I know all of those people at CHildren's, Ike, but we left there right after she got her pump 4 1/2 yrs ago....

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:10:42 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I guess I got it

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:10:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Does she take any N in the morning with that R?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:10:49 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
you got it ike :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:11:05 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
What made you decide to leave?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:11:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
By George, I think he's GOT it! :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:11:37 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
No betty no educators from tucson. Maybe we can chat some other time. My e-mail is tdcrowson@yahoo.com e-mail me gotta go.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:11:39 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I'm a she.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:11:54 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
:-) :-( :-O

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:12:08 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty , yes .5 R 2n- we still have some lows before lunch-usually when she is at preschool or at the sitter and some high numbers before dinner

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:12:39 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
oops!! sorry, Ike

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:12:51 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
long story!! LOL...basically she was only the 10th one on a pump there & the FIRST for her doc so we wanted someone who was much mroe familiar with the pump

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:12:56 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.91
Betty tempe az did you get that.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:13:00 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
Renee you r very lucky the pump is still in the early stages in Australia, Brooke is the youngest on it in Victoria maybe Australia

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:13:11 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
No problem. My real name is Alex, so even that would be confusing online. :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:13:13 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
This is the room about stress?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:13:37 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
Hi Betty B...nice to see a type 2 here.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:13:43 Eastern US
mizbaz (mother of 3 1/2 year old type I boy) from 64.20.204.142
BettyB - do you have any suggestions on how to get a more varied diet into a 3 1/2 yr old? We do a lot of chicken soup, turkey burgers, baked french fries, chicken tenders and toast, with the occasional poached egg thrown in

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:14:06 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Renee, did you find someone in Philly? I ask bc I will probably be moving out there in the fall to attendd medical school.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:14:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
fimetuning insulin in a little one like that is quite that challenge -- the R doesn't peak until 3-4 hours after you give it -- the morning snack is meant to cover that and prevent lows before lunch

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:14:43 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
hi Brenda

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:15:10 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
we did...a doc at Univ of Penn but after 3 yrs, he stopped practicing to go work for a drug company! :-( So now we're on the 3rd endo...let us know if you find a great one! :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:15:16 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
I am a type 2 that was just diagnosed with high triclycerides and cholesterol. :-(

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:15:40 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
how old were you when dx'd Ike?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:15:49 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
Doctor said it was essential that I avoid stress in my life....How DO you do that?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:15:58 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I will. I am really worried about that aspect of moving. I have had my pump only 4 months. Do you like your 3rd endocrinologist ok?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:16:10 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.106
Let me know Betty in tempe az if you got the e-mail address.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:16:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Mizbaz -- most 3 1/2 year olds eat a pretty boring diet from an adult perspective -- their taste buds just aren't very well deeloped and they like the simple stuff -- your best approach is to put the variety on the table for the rest of the family -- when they see you eat and enjoy a wide variety of stuff, little by little they add to their repertoire

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:16:33 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
:-( what r triclycerides Brenda

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:16:49 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I was dx my junior year in college. so i gues about 2 1/2 years ago.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:16:50 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
I definately see a pattern of her lows more often when I am not taking care of her. I trust and feel comfortable with both her sitter and preschool but they don't "hound" over her to eat a snack and probably don't offer a different thing it she doesn't eat all that is given to her

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:16:54 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
Fatty in blood.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:17:12 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
Fatty deposits...I think. OOPS!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:17:15 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
she's adequate...how's that for a "ringing endorsement"! NOT!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:17:37 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
tina -- it's gone off my screen -- you can send me a note at betty @diabetestraining.com and I'll see what I can do about running down educators wherever you be in AZ :-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:10 Eastern US
Renee (melissa, 17, dx'd at 9, pump March '96) from 205.188.199.153
anyway, nice to chat with everyone...time to "share" the AOL with Melissa! Night all....

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:11 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Amy - have you read "Sweet Kids?"

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:27 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.81
Ike, which med school? And congrats!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:28 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Night Renee

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:31 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
thanks Brenda, its is almost IMPOSSIBLE to be stressfree with life let alone diabetes

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:32 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
CHOP gave me a few names for when I get out there, I am just not sure where I will end up.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:45 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
nite Renee take care

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:18:59 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty - no but i certainly will.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:19:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
I hate to toot my own horn, but it's a good book for parents to understand how to manage the food and insulin and parenting all at the same time -- hopefully without making everyone totally nuts!!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:19:13 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.106
Betty it is tdcrowson@yahoo.com I live in Winslow Az down by flag one hour from flag and by payson.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:19:25 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Do you have a cwd email, Renee? I would love to chat with you again before I get out to Philly next summer.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:19:47 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Night, everybody - it's past my dinenr time -- great chat tonight!!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:19:49 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Judith, hi - probably MCP/Hahnemann or Jefferson. I'll know before Xmas.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:20:08 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
Goodnight, Renee. Thanks for your encouragement!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:20:14 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
Sorry I got here late, Betty... I had some questions I wanted to get answers for....

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:20:17 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.81
"Sweet Kids" is a great book! Toot away! LOL

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:20:27 Eastern US
Linda/UT from 216.190.28.33
Hi

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:20:59 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Even

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:21:08 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Tina, I got it -- brenda, what's on your mind?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:21:12 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.106
Thanks betty Can you get that book and the earlier book at the flagstaff mall. at walden books?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:21:30 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
I am going to have to go here soon too, midterms tomorrow, but thanks everyone, I had a good time chatting with you tonight. Take care!

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:21:33 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Oops ... I was about to say ...

Even though our special chat has ended, I'll leave this room open for a while longer, since so many people are here chatting.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:22:03 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
I think I may have gotten in the wrong room..I thought this was for stress related problems with diabetes....

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:22:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Tina, if the bookstores don't have them, you can get them both on Amazon.com -- and usually cheaper

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:22:28 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Brenda: This was indeed the stress chat.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:22:31 Eastern US
ike from 63.26.87.131
It is, Brenda, but our expert, Wendy, has already left for the evening.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:23:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
Brenda, you're in the right place -- just that the psychologist host left a few minutes ago and we're just finishing up a few lingering questions about other things

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:23:04 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
Okay....I will try and check in at another time...Night.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:23:43 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
Jeff, I have a quick question. What happened to the DAD's chat on Thurs. & what about his mission with his saving the plastic tops to needles?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:23:57 Eastern US
Brenda from 4.4.206.61
I am in a Central Daylight Savings time zone...:-)

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:24:03 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.106
Thanks alot Betty and you are all great to chat with take care and goodnight. Well chat sometime.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:24:18 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Shannon: I tried to contact the host of the Dad's chat last week, via phone and e-mail, and haven't heard from him. He didn't show the week before, so I presume he lost interest.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:24:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
The next feelings matter chat will be November 27 on "How to get More Support from Your family." Host will be dr. Richard Rubin. Should be great.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:25:02 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.106
What was the other book called from the beg.?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:25:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
You're welcome, Tina and all. Good night.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:25:22 Eastern US
Amy,-Gabrielle dx'd Aug.2000 at 21/2 years from 207.172.11.147
Betty , thank you for all of your knowledge. THere is so much that I have to learn.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:25:49 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
"When Diabetes Hits Home, " by Wendy Satin Rapaport

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:25:58 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
So, I guess I shouldn't be saving the plastic tops anymore? I don't recall the address anyway.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:26:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Tempe, AZ - Type 2) from 205.188.200.38
You're welcome, Amy. It'll come. You've found a great place to get support and information.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:26:34 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
thats sad Jeff, altjough i couldnt get my hubby on it, i think alot of me, present company excluded of course, leave the day to day d. to the mums

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:27:06 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
Betty whats that book like i have just ordered the pumping insulin book. it is hard to find books on d here

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:27:55 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
Shannon: Well, you can still collect and send them to the guy. Information is at:
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/chat/dadschat.htm

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:28:06 Eastern US
Tina AZ from 63.229.89.106
thanks everyone .bye?/,kljhlj

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:28:35 Eastern US
Jeff Hitchcock from 206.112.197.133
I need to turn in ... I'll schedule this room to disappear in an hour. Transcript will be posted tomorrow.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:29:20 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
Thanks Jeff for the info & the update. Do you think he will send them to where ever he was going to do so?

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:29:52 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
Thanks again Jeff.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:30:18 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3, dx'd 7/00) from 205.188.193.179
Thanks everyone, again. Goodnight.

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:30:20 Eastern US
mandy (mum of Brooke 9 pumping in australia) from 202.167.27.70
thanks Jeff bye for now

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:42:20 Eastern US
Susan (Cory - age 11) from 205.188.195.46
Hello

Tue Oct 24 2000 22:43:34 Eastern US
Susan (Cory - age 11) from 205.188.195.46
Looks like I missed the chat.



                 
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