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Food Matters: All About Snacks: Bedtime and Otherwise
With Betty Brackenridge on February 19, 2001

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Mon Feb 19 2001 20:55:57 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Good evening

Mon Feb 19 2001 20:56:54 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hi Kathryn - welcome to the chat - we're a tad early. I'm just typing up a greeting.

Mon Feb 19 2001 20:58:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Good evening all and welcome to the February Food Matters Chat on "Snacks." All questions and comments surrounding snacks -- why? how? what? - are fair game. And, as always, I expect you all to have a lot of valuable experience to share. Thanks very much for joining the chat tonight.

Mon Feb 19 2001 20:59:02 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn - what time and day is it in NZ?

Mon Feb 19 2001 20:59:33 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
And I'm just having an afternoon tea snack of peanut butter on 9 wholegrain bread !!

Mon Feb 19 2001 20:59:55 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Tuesday 3pm.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:00:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Low GI - very nice! It's supper time here in AZ, but I suspect we're dealing with different days.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:00:30 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Monday - 7pm! LOL

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:01:12 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
Hello (It is Monday, 9pm here)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:01:34 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Good evening. :-)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:02:12 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
My daughter is having problems with high bg's overnight we have had to give H at bed along with the Nph, can you suggest snacks that might help with this problem at bedtime ?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:02:12 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Whilst we are so few, can i ask what your opinion is of the cholesterol lowering plant sterol spreads ?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:02:14 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
I was just doing some speaking in England last week and had some interesting conversations about how people handle the afternoon tea with diabetes..

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:02:29 Eastern US
Ivy (JP 2, dx'd 1/2000) from 151.198.132.96
Hello, I just ran downstairs for the chat; my husband is putting our little one down for bed; I'm new at this--what does LOL mean? Sorry If I sound dumb!!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:02:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hi, Suzie and Emily! Welcome -- any burning questions or comments about snacks to get us started?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:03:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hi, Ivy, and welcome. LOL is cyberspace shorthand for "Laugh Out Loud."

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:03:26 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Tell us about England...

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:04:30 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
BettyB-- what is an ideal bed time snack? I am on the pump and dont always eat one, but I work at a diabetes camp and was just curious if there was something specific that was good.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:04:35 Eastern US
Ivy (JP 2, dx'd 1/2000) from 151.198.132.96
Oh I see LOL! Thank you.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:04:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hi, Rebecca -- do you know if the highs start after supper - or are they rising over night?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:05:07 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
They are rising overnight

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:05:08 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Hi Kathryn, I remember that we chatted about the gi at the last food matters.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:06:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
The cholesterol-lowering properties of plant sterols are a real thing-- but I personally think there are less expensive ways to get the benefits than what they're charging for the spreasds here in the staes. The cost for enough of the spread to produce about 30 points difference in cholesterol is comparable to the price of a drug.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:06:29 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Susie...yeah ! I'm in the chat buddy index now if you want to email me sometime. Yes, still mad about GI.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:06:35 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Hello

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:07:08 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Rebecca, what time does your daughter take her evening NPH?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:07:39 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
At 8:30 right before she goes to bed

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:08:31 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Kathryn, I went to the doctor today and he is very pleased with my bg since I began using the gi. In fact, he is concerned about my skipping snacks, so I thought that tonight's topic would be especially helpful.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:08:55 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Emily, if someone NEECDSa bedtime snack (as you've noticed, most pumpers don't need them because they can more precisely adjust overnight insulin availability), it usually needs to be something that will put a floor under the blood sugar for several hours. The bars with uncooked cornstarch work well for many people -- but also a substantial snack that contains fat and protein in addition to carb serves the -purpose for those that need it. Like a sandwuich - or a bean burrito!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:09:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
LOVE my spelling, don't you!!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:09:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Suzie, remind me what meds you're on - not all of the regimens for Type 2 diabetes really call for snacks.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:10:10 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
very good Betty!!!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:10:30 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Rebecca, and are her blood sugars pretty well in control at bedtime?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:10:31 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
prandin and glucophage.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:10:59 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hey, Connie! Good to see your smilin' name!! :-)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:11:09 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
My favorite snack is a slice of wholegrain heavy fruit toast, hot, with a just ripe banana or 1/2 banana mashed on to it.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:11:16 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Yes they are always very good 80-110 range but will rise from that point on.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:11:18 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
BettyB-- we typically give the campers a regular snack consisting of 15 grams of carb and 4 oz of milk. If they are under 120 they get a spoon of peanut butter or some cheese as a protein and 8oz milk. If under 100 they get that plus an extra 15 grams. Do you think that is a sufficient way to decided what to give for bed snack (and some kids get "special" snack, differing from the norm.)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:12:01 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
I sometimes go 6 hours between breakfast and lunch when at work. I seem to have a significant drop in bg at those times.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:12:03 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Suzie, neither Prandin nor Glucophage really requires snacks. Unless you WANT to eat them, you are at very minimal risk for low blood sugars between meals -- especially since you are eating low gi.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:13:14 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Betty - i always want a snack !!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:13:26 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
BettyB: I'll relay that to my dr. next month.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:14:10 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Emily, the 15 grams carb plus a half glass of milk (like the old hospital standby or graham crackers and milk) probably doesn't do much to protect the kids against overnight lows. The blood sugar you're trying to support is around 2-3 am -- and those foods just don't take that long to digest!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:15:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Glucophage stops the blood sugar from rising (as opposed to actually lowering an existin high blood sugar) so does not create any risk for lows. One of the advantages of prandin over older sulfonylureas is that it is shorter acting and so reduces risks for lows.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:16:15 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn, you're a woman after me own heart! Do you find - since you're a low GI fan - that you have any trouble controlling blood sugars after snacks?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:16:46 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
BettyB: what do you think is causing me to have lows if I don't eat lunch for 6 hrs?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:17:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susie, if you're going low before lunch, it may be that the dose of prandin at breakfast overshoots the amount of carb you're eating. Have you done any after breakfast testing (1 or 2 hours post) to see what the pattern is through the morning?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:18:53 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
BettyB: I haven't, but I will. We did increase the Prandin when I had a series of URIs and my bgs were higher. We never reduced it.....

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:18:58 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
I knew that you would ask that !! I haven't done much in the way of testing (1) hour after snacks. So I'm relying on my HBA1c of 5.5 as an indicator that I'm not experiencing regular BGs >10mmol or I'd have a higher HBA1c. But I'll test just before the hour is up today and see.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:19:36 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Emily, that pattern of the blood sugar being normal at bedtime but high on rising the next morning suggest that the NPH dose is either not high enough or is not lasting long enough. Is there any way you could give it later? Or perhaps use the buttocks for that injection to slow down absorption of the N and make it last longer?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:20:43 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
My daughter is making the transition from MDI to the pump. The doctor wants us to be exact with carbs. For example dinner is 60 carbs. I can usually get to 58 but what do I use to make up those other 1-2 carbs I'm missing. Another diabetic parent suggested tootsie rolls, but I'd rather not. What can I give her that is 1 carb and healthy.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:20:56 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn, I agree that you're probably doing great with an A1c like that -- but sometimes there are little "blips" on the blood sugar radar screen.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:21:56 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Betty, have you heard of much of pooling insulin with the pump?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:22:02 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
So BettyB, what do diabetics eat at tea time?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:23:17 Eastern US
Kevin ((NE)19pump) from 160.102.29.2
why is it so important that you have exactly 60 carbs?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:24:02 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Rebecca, first of all, carb counting is not really all that exact!! If you are within 1 or 2 grams, I'd say you're doing extremely well. With little ones, their appetite and capacity are a limiting factor -- perhaps choosing a more carb-dense fruit that she likes would put you "over the top." For example, using grape juice instead of a fruit that takes a whole piece to give you 1 carb. Anybody else have any thoughts for Rebecca?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:24:02 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
I think it has something to do with her age she's 5 and needing to get her basal rate right at first

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:24:24 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
I'm having this scrumptious piece of ??alcohol cheese cake a customer brought to me today!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:25:16 Eastern US
Maryann (mi) (Jill 16, pumping) from 63.23.174.75
grapes are great one carb. I have to remind Jill to bolus for her nibbling

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:25:29 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Connie, I'm not familiar with the term "pooling insulin." Maybe we call it something sdifferent down here.. can you explain further?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:25:44 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
how many carbs does that have connie

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:25:50 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
BettyB-- why does where you inject the insulin matter to how quickly it works. I have heard about it and used the info passed on to me, but not sure why.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:26:06 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Does Rebecca like dried fruits ? Dates are yummy fresh or dried and have a GI of 103

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:26:09 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Hello...
Just read back...
Rebecca, how about an extra ounce of milk? That would be about 1.5g carb.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:26:39 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
We did have a range of 55-60 for dinner but the Dr. at Joslin said they need to have her exact that I can't be off at all.
Thanks for the ideas.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:26:49 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
I have thought that in some instances the carb count was an estimate, i.e.: a piece of fruit may be between 13 to 18 grams of carbs, etc.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:26:50 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
It's like all of a sudden I go extremely low for no apparent reason and stay that way for hours even if I disconnect from the pump!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:27:02 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
Rebecca-- where do you live?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:27:24 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
In PA

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:27:36 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
Anyone know of a diet that helps you loose weight, control your sugars, raise HDL, lower LDL and choleterol and lower tryglicerides? :-)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:27:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susie, Tea time in England (and KAthryn can fill us in on New Zealand) is a fairly heavy carb meal as normally consumed -- sandwiches and a "pudding" or sweet. People who take meal bolus insulin seem to just bolus for it. Others who are on fixed insulin mixtures typically have quite a bit of NPH about in the afternoon to cover a substantil "snack" -- bit it seems that people with type 2 diabetes are mostly advised to eat differently than everyone else -- and from the discussions I was hearing among the nurse specialists in London, that's not working very well! Big surprise!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:27:54 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
BettyB the cheesecake that Connie talks of are what causes the blips on my BG radar !! If we have gone out for dinner, I HAVE to have a dessert. I call it my reward for all those days and weeeks of religiously eating right.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:28:53 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Rebecca, no way you can have exact counts. Fruits especially have lots of variation in sugar content, as well as size. What is an "medium" size banana mean?? Bet we'd all have different ideas

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:28:59 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
Rebecca-- I was going to say, there is a Joslin in MA and if you went to that one, there is a Pump weekend at a diabetes camp in MA in about 2.5 weeks for prospective pump users. Going to be very good program.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:29:06 Eastern US
Heidyn from 164.106.22.63
Hi

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:29:17 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
Susie, they are an estimate for fruits, depending on the size of the fruit. obviously a large orange will have more carbs than a small one.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:29:45 Eastern US
Kevin ((NE)19pump) from 160.102.29.2
good luck Brenda, tryglicerides make up 95% of dietary fat intake (you could just not eat)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:30:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn, I salute you (as I have Connie in the past) for eating as normally as possible with your diabetes. People who attempt to eat like monks incariably end up "going off the deep end" at some point. Leanring to manage your blood sugars while eating the foods you actually enjoy is the best key I know of for long term, more stable diabetes control. Not to mention a happy life and a reasonable degree of sanity!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:30:17 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Judith, I know it is kind of impossible but I try my best

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:30:22 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Kathryn, I normally don't eat stuff like this, I give it to hubby, but I tasted a piece of his, it's soooooooooo good.....couldn't resist an extra helping...........

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:30:37 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
So how do I lower tryglicerides?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:30:47 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Beth, that's the point that I was trying to make :-). (feeling better?)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:30:58 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Rebecca, I just mean that the doc's expectation is unreasonable. No way anyone could be "exact"

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:31:12 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Emily- we are trying a camp in Maryland this year. I did just read that Joslin has one in DC which isn't too far I was thinking of looking into it

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:31:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Brenda, triglycerides are often elevated because blood sugars are not in great control -- particularly after meals. Do you check after meals to see how you're doing with BG control at those times?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:31:33 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Betty, think I just gained my lost 10 pounds back!!LOL

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:31:59 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Tea time in New Zealand is the biggest meal of the day. Usually what we call "meat and 3 veg" and with the more traditional families there is often a dessert. Its a trend that concerns nutritionists that younger folk, city dwellers etc are moving to pre-prepared foods high in fats and sugars instead of preparing meals from "scratch" in the home kitchen. We would have sandwiches for lunch. Friday nights are traditionally the fish and chip or takeaway meal nights.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:32:02 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Also, to imporve your overall lipid profile. a higher intake of fruits and vegetables, some soy products every day, fish at least twice a week, and favor monounstarurated fats like avocadoes and olive oil over animal fats.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:32:15 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
just had some soup Susie, cambells chicken noodle. hope it stays with me, then I may try something more.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:32:16 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
Rebecca-- the camps are wonderful. it is where I learned to give my own injections, carb count, importance of taking care of diabetes, etc first hand rather than just info from my doctor.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:32:44 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
BettyB...my a1c are 5.6-6.3

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:33:45 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
my cholesterol is 168, my hdl 50 and my ldl 77...my tryglicerides are 304.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:34:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hi, Heidyn -- see you dropped in a while back - how's it going?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:34:54 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Betty, my triglycerides are still higher than they should be even with the gi regiment. I will begin testing after meals. If my bg is high then, should I increase the glucophage?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:35:08 Eastern US
Kevin ((NE)19pump) from 160.102.29.2
i can't remember which is the good on hdl or ldl?
it is hdl right?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:35:10 Eastern US
Rose from 152.163.204.179
hi??

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:35:29 Eastern US
Kevin ((NE)19pump) from 160.102.29.2
on=one

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:35:39 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
hdl...heavenly.....ldl lousy...that is how I remember.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:35:43 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Brenda, with your A1c's and that lipid profile other than the triglyceride, I think there's a good chance that this is some sort of a familial hyperlipidemia - probably not diet related. Have you asked your doc about medication?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:35:55 Eastern US
Rose from 152.163.204.179
i am not sure if i am early but i am here to talk about snacks

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:36:42 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
thanks Brenda, now I'll remember. (You've helped me once again!!!!)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:37:00 Eastern US
Emily from 204.60.198.177
G'night everyone, I am off to bed after a long weekend working a diabetes camp. Thanks for the advice Betty...

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:37:13 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
I am on lipitor.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:37:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susie, glucophage doesn't specifically targeyt aftermeal blood sugars. If your other sugars are in the target range but your aftermeals are high then you have a few options: eating a bit less carb at each meal and snack or taking a mecine that targets postmeal blood sugar. The oral agents that do this would be Prandin and Starlix (repaglinide and nateglinide) or Humalog or Novolog insulin.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:37:47 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.98
You are very welcome, Susie...

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:38:03 Eastern US
Rose from 152.163.204.179
hello??

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:38:08 Eastern US
Heidyn from 164.106.22.63
doing fine,Betty B.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:38:16 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
sweet dreams Emily.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:38:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Emily, thanks so much for coming and sharig! Later!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:38:38 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
Betty B, I am on glucophage and glucotrol what do you think of that combo

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:39:00 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hi, Rose. Any burning questions about snacks -- or anything else for that matter - we've headed off into the bush of diabetes topics tonight!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:39:12 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
I am already using Prandin. Glucophage alone didn't lower my bgs.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:39:38 Eastern US
Rose from 152.163.204.179
fine don't listen to me!!!!!!!! bye!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:39:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Beth, that's a great combination. Two different oral agents and each has a different ,ode of action. How's it working for you?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:40:24 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Rose- are you still there?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:40:44 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
most of the time okay, but lately I have been having sugars from low 60's to high 200's with no obvious reason for the change. and they can change in just a few hours.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:40:49 Eastern US
Kylie (Tyler 13 dx'd at 12) from 205.188.192.152
hi all

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:40:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susie, it's common for people with Type 2 to need more than one type of medicine because there are several possible different things that contribute to high blood sugars.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:41:18 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
it started ab out 2 weeks ago and then about a week ago I got sick, so wonder if the two are connected.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:41:35 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Beth bet your body is just fighting this bug you have!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:41:42 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Rose, no silly stuff in this room, please. There are lots of people here, many conversations going on. It may take a while for you to get a response. Please be patient.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:42:10 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rose, I'm here for snacks too but I don't have any specific questions, do you?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:42:32 Eastern US
Susanne (Mary 8 pumping 8 months) from 207.89.168.116
Hi All.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:42:56 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Beth, illness can sure cause you're sugars to rise befcause fever, infection and other stresses increase your need for insulin -- and the lows? have you been eating erratically, maybe, because you wern't feeling well?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:43:03 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Beth, my sugar levels go on a roller coaster ride when I'm sick.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:43:11 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
I'm here to learn about snacks also. I've never been on a chat before but I thought things on this site were geared to type 1 children

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:43:45 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rebecca, my first time on a chat too

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:43:47 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Rose is apparently an impatient teen.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:43:53 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
I wanted to learn about the sweet kids book and where I can get it because Borders doesn't have it

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:44:00 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Rose and Ivy, susanne and whoever, were you looking for snack ideas or did you have any questions about how> when? or why to snack?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:44:42 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Rebecca, you are asking the right person - BettyB is the author.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:45:15 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
That's what I thought and our nutritionist highly recommended it

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:45:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Rebecca, this chat appears simultaneously on Cildrenwith Diabetes and on Diabetes123. One site is obviously devoted to kids and parents but the other os more geared to adults with both type 1 and type and so we get a mixture of folks on the chats.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:45:27 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rebecca, can't they order it for you?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:45:35 Eastern US
Susanne (Mary 8 pumping 8 months) from 207.89.168.116
Pumping is great for us, so Mary does not always have to have a snack between meals. On weekends we tend to miss some snacks and it seems to work.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:45:41 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
during the week I eat pretty regular because I have to eat with the children, but everything is going right thru me, also even after I eat my bg will start dropping real fast and then later when I haven't eaten for awhile will go way up. Hopefully when I am over this bug it will improve.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:45:44 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
The site originated as support for parents of kids with type 1, but has branched out into serving all people with d.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:46:51 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Diabetes 123 ????

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:46:51 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
I started coming on here to get support for Rea's D, but have learned a lot about my own type 2 also

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:46:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Rebecca, from what I can tell, you are not the only person who's having trouble laying hands on Sweet Kids. ADA is pretty much a dud at keeping it on the shelves! But they justy completed a new printing a few weeks ago and I'm told it's now available again on Amazon.com -- or you might try calling ADA directly.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:46:57 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
I highly recommend it too. Apparently too many people recommended it and it sold out! LOL

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:47:41 Eastern US
Susanne (Mary 8 pumping 8 months) from 207.89.168.116
Our local library has it. You might check there or see if they can interlibrary loan it.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:47:49 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Ivy- I didn't have time to ask because we were running late for snack LOL

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:47:58 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Diabetes123.com is a "sister site" to ChildrenwithDiabetes.com. Same content pretty much, but we've been adding more adult topics for several months.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:48:08 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Still haven't gotten mine yet either!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:48:24 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
If you go to Amazon.com through this site...through the books at the Products section...this site will get a small commmission, but you will not pay anything extra. You can order any kind of books from Amazon that way, and help support CWD

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:49:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Beth, has this been going on for two weeks?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:49:32 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Betty have you had a chance to look at Edelman's "Take Control of your Diabetes" yet ? Seems to me that it could help many of the T 2s with their questions, especially about the lipids etc.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:49:45 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.139
Betty...on the glycemic index...what does honey roasted soy nuts rate?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:49:56 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susanne, you just pointed out one of the major benefits of the pump. Becsue you give insulin very much like the body would, you don't need to "feed" high levels of insulin between meals and overnight to prevent lows.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:50:04 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
I think for lots of parents the hardest thing about snacks is simply thinking of a variety of things to offer.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:50:10 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rebecca, are you making fun of my LOL question? The book IS great by the way.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:50:49 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn, I haven't looked at the book yet, but I trust Steve and have a lot of respect for what he does, so I'm sure you're right.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:51:18 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Ivy- No, was that you? I just thought it was ironic

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:52:00 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
The thing about snacks and kids is that most kids want and need snacks -- diabetes notwithstanding. It's the business of having to make sure that the snack is "just so" for diabetes purposes that can get to be a royal pain in a buzzoo!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:52:08 Eastern US
Susanne (Mary 8 pumping 8 months) from 207.89.168.116
I actually suprised that she has only lost a pound the last 3 months as I have not "force fed" the child every meal and snack the last 3 months. We are achieving a much more "Normal" life.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:52:18 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
yes Betty started 2 weeks ago tonight, dropped from 233 to 66 in 3 hours.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:53:03 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Brenda, not sure on the honey roasted soy nut. The soy itself is quite low, of course. let me see if I can find my most complete list. be right back.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:53:15 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
As long as the budget holds up, my boys (15 and 16) are happy eating cereal 3 times/day! (and I don't buy any interesting ones, either). They don't need snacks to cover insulin, as they are pumping, but do still want them.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:53:30 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
We can't wait to get our pump in May

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:53:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susanne, what a great thing for you all!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:54:00 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
Judith, Rea often eats cereal for snack too. give her a bowl of cheerios and she is happy

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:54:34 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rebecca, Emily was just dx'd in October and already going to pump?

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:55:45 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Betty, do you write and post interesting info/feedback, such as you have from your visit to UK. Obviously there's not the time in the chat.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:56:00 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
It's great you have a doctor who will put your child on a pump so soon Rebecca!!:-)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:56:01 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Ivy- not until May. Our insurance we have to have 6 months of blood sugars with MDI with so many out of range for them to pay. So our 6 months will be up then. But she will be, and the endo has already approved it.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:56:22 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
She goes to a branch of Joslin and they are wonderful.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:56:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Brenda, sorry, but the honey roasted soy nuts don't appear in any of the GI lists that I have. I suggest doing your own test!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:57:44 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rebecca, I've been pestering our endo, but he won't hear of it--keeps insisting Joseph is too young yet and his bgs are not too bad (7.5 last HbAic)

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:58:07 Eastern US
Susanne (Mary 8 pumping 8 months) from 207.89.168.116
Rebecca it is too bad that insurance is holding you back until May.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:58:07 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.139
Thanks, Betty...when you are trying to loose weight, control your sugars and lipid levels, diabetes gets to be a real pain. LOL

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:58:07 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn, I have to say I don't have the time to write up that sort of thing -- but you're right, it IS fascinating. Timing and size of meals make such a difference in workable regimens in different parts of the world!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:58:26 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Ivy, if he has an A1c like that without many lows, he's doing great!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:58:55 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
People criticise the US health system all the time, but you folks are lucky that you can get your pumps on your insurance. In NZ the government funds (and only in the last 12 months)just 6 pumps for the entire population of 3/5 million !!! Others need to buy pump and supplies themselves for > $7000.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:59:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Shucks, diabetes can be a real pain even when you're NOT trying to do all those other things too!

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:59:42 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Betty, we've been getting a number of parents from the UK at the chat lately. They are expressing interest in pumps, but apparently it's not an option there at all, at least for kids.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:59:50 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Judith he averages about 2-3 lows a week but nothing below 50. We do test him too often, I sometimes think.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:59:55 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Ivy- Emily's HBa1c isn't that bad it was 7.3 but they do believe its the best way to go. We did change endo's twice because the first one said no pump until 10 years old.

Mon Feb 19 2001 21:59:59 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
It's so true, Kathryn!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:00:16 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 206.112.197.133
Before you leave Betty, thanks for hosting tonight's chat.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:00:29 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Rebecca, where is your Joslin?

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:00:31 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
susanne- I know I wish it was sooner.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:00:38 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.139
LOL Betty...I agree.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:00:48 Eastern US
Rebecca (Mom of Emily, 5, dx 10-00) from 64.41.34.111
Judith- University of Maryland in Baltimore

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:01:33 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Judith, that's what I was hearing last week -- the UK is actually a VERY conservative system - both the socialized payment system and the providers are not eager adopters of newer therapies. I was speaking on our program to a nurse specialist meeting. here were the best diabetes nurses from thw whole country and virtually none of them had any pump experience - nor even adjusting insulin at meals for carb intake.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:01:35 Eastern US
Susanne (Mary 8 pumping 8 months) from 207.89.168.116
Thank you Betty. I always enjoy chatting with you. You have such a realistic view of living and managing diabetes

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:01:44 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.139
Good night, all.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:01:47 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Ah. Didn't think the one near me (IN) was putting such young ones on pumps yet.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:02:53 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
goodnight

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:03:03 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Rebecca, our endo says just to wait a little while longer, but he won't say just how long--it's so frustrating.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:03:11 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
I live in our capital city and there are less than 6 pumpers !

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:03:33 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Susanne and brenda H (welcome!), you're very welcome. My pleasure as always. A great mix of folks tonight. Thanks to all for sharing! The room will stay open for another 25 minutes or so - feel free to take your time finishing up your conversations!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:03:37 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Good Night BettyB and thank you

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:03:42 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
That's a shame, Betty. I understand lots of pumpers, including kids, in France?

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:04:24 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
Thanks BettyB

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:05:14 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Thanks BettyB!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:05:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Yes, France and Belgium seem to have more use. Maybe it's because there have been more ump studies done in those countries -- or maybe the companies did the studies there because the system was more open to newer therapies.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:05:28 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
Brenda, you have been very helpful over the months that you have been hosting these chats. I have learned to control my D!!!!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:05:39 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 7 mo; husband T2 2 yrs) from 202.135.85.119
Thanks BettyB - till next time...

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:06:50 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.150
I meant to express my thanx to Betty B. (You are always helpful also Brenda.)

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:07:15 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Night, Betty and thanks.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:07:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Kathryn, if you get a chance to try pumping, you've got a great built in support team on ChildrenwithDiabetes -- wonderful concentration of expertise among the parents!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:07:24 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
Wish I could come to these all the time, but am usually at work on Monday evenings

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:07:30 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Good night,a ll. It's supper time here in AZ!Hope to see you next nmonth!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:08:15 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Oh, by the way, anybody from the St. Peterburg, FL area? I'm speaking at a pefiatric confrence there this Saturday. I'd love to meet anyone who's around!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:09:02 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Ellen lives down there!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:09:34 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
And finally, next Tueday night there's a "feelings Matetr" chat on Depression and Diabetes, hosted by Bill Polonsky. Should be great!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:09:43 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
I'd LIKE to be in St P on Saturday! Probably better weather than Indiana....

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:09:59 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
LOLOL- "Feelings Matter!!"

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:10:30 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat Host) from 152.163.197.59
Hallelujah, sister. Good night and I really mean it this time!!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:11:31 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 15, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.99
you and me both Judith, weather here is supposed ot get cold again

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:11:40 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
To all you pumpers, much discomfort?

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:11:47 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
(Ellen is in Boca)

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:12:11 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
One year ago today I was in FL, at the D Camping Assoc meeting. It was great!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:12:26 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
only a couple of hours away Judith!!LOL

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:12:47 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
None for me Ivy unless I leave a set in too long

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:12:56 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Ivy, one problem I see with a little one is that you'll soon run out of places to rotate sites. You will likely get scarring and poor absorption then.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:14:07 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
I am also very concerned about pumping in pre-verbal kids...ones that are too young to realize they are getting sick, too young to tell you. Since there is only short acting insulin with a pump (generally Humalog) any problem or malfunction can quickly lead to ketoacidosis.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:14:30 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Judith, you mean because of his size?
Connie, how long is too long?

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:15:39 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
Depends Ivy, sometimes a site won't last more then a day, and sometimes much longer!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:15:41 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Yes, Ivy, just because of physical size. If each new site needs to be at least an inch from the previous one, and you should not reuse a site for several weeks, you will soon run out.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:16:29 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
It's recommended not to leave a site in one place more that 3 days, because of risk of infection and increased scarring. Some last only a few hours...or a few minutes! Some last the whole 3 days.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:17:16 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Is JP completely toilet trained - day and night? If not, that eliminates the hip area inside the diaper.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:18:06 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Judith, I have given a lot of though to what you said; but Joseph is very verbal (even for his age) and he is starting to "understand" when he goes low; high, however is another thing

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:18:13 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (T1 // pumping) from 209.53.87.67
I'm going next door!

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:19:18 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
No, Judith, not completely, I see what you mean

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:19:30 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
There ARE people who have infants and toddlers pumping. I'm just offering my concerns. Both my teens are pumpers.

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:23:32 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Judith, I understand your concerns, but everything I read indicates so many benefits with pumps and with Joseph being so young, I feel that he will have D for a little longer than most; I just want to give him the best opportunity for a complication free life

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:23:36 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Even my guys (15 and 16) don't think "ketones" when they feel nauseated. I'm trying to drum that into them.....

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:24:14 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
I understand, Ivy. My David was diagnosed at age 2 months. Vanya has had d since he was 6 years old.

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Mon Feb 19 2001 22:25:28 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Sorry, Connie, Good-night.
Rebecca, You still there?

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:26:01 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.124
Uh oh. Looks like the Hitchcocks are about to turn out the lights in this room. Bye......

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:26:27 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Judith, 2 months!!?? How did you cope. I can just immagine what you must have gone through

Mon Feb 19 2001 22:27:21 Eastern US
Ivy (Mom of JP,2,dx'd 1/00) from 151.198.132.96
Good-bye and thanks for all your imput everyone



                 
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