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Food Matters: Bring Your Burning Questions, Puzzles, and Pet Peeves!
With Betty Brackenridge on April 16, 2001

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Mon Apr 16 2001 21:01:15 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Good evening everyone. Welcome to the Food Matters Chat. Tonight is an Open Forum -- any topics of interest to you are fair game. And, as always, please feel free to join in at any time, sharing your own experiences and thoughts. The chat is now open.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:03:47 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Hey Betty!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:04:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Hey, Susie! How goes that battle?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:04:29 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
I have just been diagnosed as a Type II diabetic and am struggling with keeping my sugar level in the "normal" range. Right now, I'm using diet only to regulate blood sugars and having a difficult time finding foods that are satisfying yet aid in keeping the sugar in check. I'm open to suggestions!!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:04:33 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
This is brand new to me first time to the site, I'm seeking guidance with food and if there are any that may help my daughters sugar to remain more moderate throughout the day in lieu of highs & lows.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:04:53 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
meant "the" battle -- in other words, How are you?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:05:06 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Uphill all the way!!!! Found out that I have the start of diabetic neuropathy when I visited the podiatrist. Oh well.....

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:06:12 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, I had trouble also then I discovered the glycemic index and that has been helpful for me.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:06:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Hi, Lorna's mom. Glad you're here. There's usually a lot of expertise among the people on these chats. Tell me about Lorna's care right now - what insulins, when, and what approach are you taking to food management?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:06:50 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
Susie, where do I find the glycemic index?????

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:06:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Gosh, Susie, sorry to hear that. Do you have pain or is it loss of feeling?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:08:29 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Linda, keep in mind that Susie has Type 2 diabetes and GI is generally more helpful there than in Type 1 -- you have to try out the tools in your particular situation to see if they fit -- not only your diabetes, but how you live and eat.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:09:00 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Betty, I was very surprised as when podiatrist when he asked about my a1cs,etc. It is in very beginning stages. Hear anything about benefits of B1 for this?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:09:40 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, I thought that you said that you were dx'd as type2, diet controlled?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:10:39 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
Susie - I'm new to this---I'm non-insulin dependent - is that Type I or II - I get them mixed up!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:11:18 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Not specifically, Susie. But since early stages of neuropathy seem to be reversible to some degree, I recommend optimal nutrition (for healing and tissue repair) as well as great blood sugar control and regular exercise (to improve blood flow) to my patients in your situation.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:12:28 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Betty, optimal nutrition, please define. I do workout.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:12:31 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Betty thankyou for this chat i inquired ealier are there any specific foods or vitamins that could help my daughters type 1 throuoghout the day with xtrm highs + lows?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:13:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Linda, sorry - I thought you were another Linda who has dropped in at times - she has type 1. Non-insulin dependent diabetes is now called type 2.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:13:33 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, I would say that you are a type 2,Betty please correct me if I am incorrect.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:14:43 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Lorna's mom - to my knowledge there aren't any vitamins or minerals that specifically smooth out blood sugars. The variability in youngsters with type 1 is due to how tricky it can be to keep insulin a food closely matched.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:15:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
As you can see, Susie, you're right on the money.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:15:33 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
I use the book the Glycemic Index by Brand-Miller, et al. It is available through amazon.com

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:16:29 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Continuing with Lorna's mom - that's why I asked earlier about Lorna's specific insulin plan and food management approach. Maybe I can suggest some ways to try to improve the coordination between food and insulin.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:16:46 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
sorry Linda, it's the Glycemic Revolution.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:17:07 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
Betty, This whole diet thing is quite overwhelming. I'm following Weight Watcher's, at my physician's suggestion, which is easy to follow except that I'm needing to eat more proteins than in the regular Weight Watcher's diet. By increasing proteins, I'm concerned that I'm also increasing calories.........help!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:17:46 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
That's Woelver's book, isn't it, Susie. People using glycemic index seems to really like that one.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:17:46 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Lorna's Mommy: Fruit juices raise bg rapidly. Including protein and some fat in meals helps smooth out some of the peaks.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:18:46 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
That's interesting Linda. My dietician had some concerns about WW until I learned to space my meals. With WW you can save points and that may not be good with D.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:19:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Linda, why are you eating more protein than the standard Weight Watcher plan?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:20:10 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, the gi diet that I follow has limited protein, lots of whole grains, legumes, fruits, veggies....

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:20:19 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
Susie - I'm learning that I can't save points and I'm using my fruits & vegetables to eat in between meals for snacks.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:20:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Very true, Gail. The fats particularly help to slow the digection and absorption of carbohydrates (starches and sugars).

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:21:06 Eastern US
Brenda from 166.72.148.35
Betty....I can control my sugars..but when I do I don't loose weight. Do you know whY? My 2 week average is 107.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:21:24 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Betty, she is on 6NPH 11/2H in the morning in the evening she has 2N with snacks throughout the day & i feel she is well managed I just wish there was more than just counting carbs & giving shots to her, along with exercise and healthy choices

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:21:52 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, are you on any kind of meds?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:22:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
LInda and Susie, you've figured out an very important "basic" of managing type 2 when you're either on tablets or no meds at all -- and that is the importance of distributing your food and carbs fairly evenly through the day.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:23:43 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Lorna's mommy -- so she's taking N with her snacks later in the day?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:23:48 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
Betty - I'm finding that when I stick strictly to Weight Watchers that my sugars tend to be on the high side and my Dr. suspects that is because of the fruits & milk products. He has suggested that I have protein at each meal and before bed to help keep the sugars more level. This works, but I'm concerned that I'm getting too many calories. Maybe I'm using the wrong proteins???? I'm on medication for asthma and hypothyroid, but nothing else. I'm also dieting to try to lower cholesterol---Yippee Skippy!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:23:56 Eastern US
Brenda (Type 2....) from 166.72.148.35
I was told to eat 165 carbs a day...but when I started doing that I quit loosing weight.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:25:58 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Hi, Brenda -- bet you didn't know you've re discovered Einstein's 3rd Law of Theramodynamics - "energy is neither created no destroyed." When blood sugars are high, caklories go out in the urine. When blood sugars are under control, you hang on to every single calorie!! Damn! BUT you eyes and blood vessels are much happier. Have you tried adding some physical activity to try to help with the weight?-

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:27:09 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Brenda, that's only 640 calories - what else is on your plan?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:27:39 Eastern US
Heidyn from 164.106.22.115
Hello

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:28:09 Eastern US
Brenda (Type 2....) from 166.72.148.35
I get up at 5:15 every morn...clean house and get ready for work...go to work at 7:30...work until 3:30...give private piano lessons until 6:30..fix supper, eat and ususally go to sleep around 8:30...

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:28:18 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Betty, Lorna has N at the evening meal and then has a bed snack 2&1/2 hours later, i think its a good plan for her don't get me wrong i don't won't her of insulin, i just hate feeding her starburst & juices, i'd like to get her away from dyes, but my choices for quick sugars are limited.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:28:26 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Betty, that's the uphill battle: eating to maintain the bg and not losing. I do try to work out every other day. I have been drinking more water and I have actually started to perspire!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:28:30 Eastern US
Brenda (Type 2....) from 166.72.148.35
My CDE said that was 1200 calories.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:29:03 Eastern US
Brenda (Type 2....) from 166.72.148.35
When do I exercise? LOL :-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:30:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Linda, you have definitely got your hands full! There are a couple of things that can help with those peaking blood sugars in your situation -- one is having more fat in the meal (that's actually how protein seems to help, because most proteins we eat have a fair amount of fat. Also, picking some lower GI choices in place of some of the fruits and starches you'r now eating on Weight Watchers. And, finally, making your plan into something more like 6 small meals -- so evry time you eat theres a little carbohydrate, protein and fat.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:32:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Lorna's mom - your problem is a common one for kids that are honeymooning. The insulin plan is fairly low and not exactly what we would do for a kid who was past the honeymoon. N just isn't a meal insulin -- you will always end up with peaks and valleys when using N to cover meals -- at least if they contain normal amounts of carb -- healthy kid-type meals. The N peak is much later and lasts much longer than insulin to cover a meal is meant to.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:33:59 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Yeah for the sweat, Susie, LOL Linda, I say you exercise WHENEVER - whenver you feel like it and can fit it into yur life. If possible, make it social or fun in some way so it has it's own payoff.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:35:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Brenda, I was guessing that you meant 165 grams of carbohydrate, which provides the 640 calories -- but then the proteins and fats that fill out the meals are where your remaining 600 or so calories are coming from.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:35:55 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, the glycemic index is a list of foods that were tested and assigned valued based on the rate in which they are absorbed into the blood stream. It seems that the more processed the food, the quicker your bg will rise. For example, white bread makes high bg which stone ground wheat bread or pumpernickle is much slower and doesn't tend to raise the bg as quickly nor as much. It has been a g-d send for me. I was not doing well on the ADA diet. I am also on oral meds.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:36:02 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Betty, i have a pretty good gage on how her insulins work i was wondering if you might have a suggestion for her "fixes" when she is low -besides what i think is junk.(starburst, juice)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:36:33 Eastern US
Brenda (Type 2....) from 166.72.148.35
I don't know how much protein and fats I need to add...I just thought 165 grams of carb were 1200 calories.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:37:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
To continue for Lorna's Mom - during the honeymoon the pancreas is still making some insulin - the problem is, we don't know exactly how much or when. It can make it pretty tricky to get the injected insulin right.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:39:29 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Betty, my daughter has had antibodies to her thyroid for some time. If thyroid function has started to be affected, could this have caused recent weight gain and an increase in appetite?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:40:00 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Lorna's mom - treating a low that's already there requires things that are very quick - besides juices, candy (the fat-free kinds, not chocolate) and regular soda pop - there are a few others that are a tad more nutritious: skim milk, corn flakes -- you other moms out there - what do your youngsters take to when low?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:40:32 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
good evening everyone, mind if I lurk? :-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:40:37 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Linda, there are even some low gi foods that are remarkable low. i.e.: an occasional small snickers bar is low on the gi, although high in fat and should be limited. I find that the old fashioned oatmeal is okay, but the quick oats raise my big very quickly.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:41:10 Eastern US
B.A. (health care professional) from 205.188.198.26
Is there really a problem with the Starbursts that are troubling Lorna's Mom

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:41:25 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Gail, thyroid function can definitely impact weight status and appetite - how long since she had thyroid tests - I'm guessing her doc does them periodically because they're aware of her risk.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:41:36 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
My Dr.s office has been stand offish when i pursue them about anything slightly alternative. they did tell me they have 1 patient
, Juv. T1 who is on no insuline, and i found out from someone within the group that they are using an alternative method,behind closed doors, while still providing bloodsugars at their 3 month check-ups. what are your thoughts on this?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:41:52 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.206.71
Hey Gary!!!! :-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:42:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
BA, Starbursts definitely work well for treating lows, but lorna's mom wants to avoid empty calories and artidicial colors -- and her daughter is having prettyfrequent problems with lows.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:43:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Welcome, gary, You're always a welcome "lurker!" LOL

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:43:12 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
I'm not going to interrupt the conversation to say hello back to everyone.....so 'thanks' to all who say HI!! :-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:45:14 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
I believe the annual screen has been in the fall. I've emailed her endo to ask for one at clinic next week, but wondered if the increased appetite fit the picture. She is having trouble with alopecia again, too. Endo has given me info on APS II.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:45:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Lorna's Mom - to my knowledge there are no alternative treatments that will replace insulin in a truly insulin deficient person. However, there are some slowly developing forms of Type 1 in which people retain SOME ability to produce insulin for quite some time. And, of course, there are now, MANY kids developing type 2 in which absolutel insulin deficiency isn't the main problem. Perhaps the child they're talking about falls into one of those latter categories.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:45:53 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Gary are the poems about diabetes or are the poets diabetic?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:46:22 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Gail have her blood sugars been more troublesome to control too?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:46:49 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
Lorna's mom...the poems are all about growing up and living with diabetes. Al the poets are diabetic

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:47:02 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
Al = All

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:48:00 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Thanks, Gary. I'm usually the only klutzy typist in the room!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:48:23 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
LOL@Betty:-o

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:48:44 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Bg's has been roller-coastering for the last several weeks. She is very hungry--so much so that she will sneak food. I have been reluctant to add extra food and cover with Humalog because of weight gain.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:49:36 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
hello...late again....

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:50:14 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Betty, I forgot to mention that she is very active.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:50:47 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.52
Hi everyone! I know it's late, but I thought I'd just catch the end.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:51:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Gail, sounds like you've got a viscious cycle going there. Bother high and low blood sugars can stir up appetite (in addition to whatever effect may be comnig from the tyroid) so she eats more and if it's not covered with insulin, up it goes.. time for that visit t the doc to see if he can pinpoint the cause and get you all off the rolleroster.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:51:35 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Sorry!! BOTH high and low!! not "bother"

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:51:48 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
Shannon, can we see a note from your mom explaining your late entrance?:-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:51:52 Eastern US
rhonda (Megan,7,dx07/99) from 205.188.199.159
Hello everyone. My daughter loves to go to the pool in the summer. Last year I gave her quick carbs to keep glucose levels within range. I never knew if she would lounge around the pool or swim like a mermaid. One of the previous chats had mentioned a peanut butter spoon. She loves them. I was wondering if and how I could use the peanut butter spoon so she would not need to get out and eat so often. Any suggestions? Also, how should I figure the peanut butter with carbs and amount of time it takes to show up when checking her glucose?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:52:02 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Hi, Shannon, thanks for joining in.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:53:21 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.52
What's a peanut butter spoon, or is it pretty much self explainatory?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:53:50 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Gail this sounds familiar i have had this with my lorna but for her this phase was temporary i chalked it up as a growth spirt and adjusted insulin accordingly, my family Dr. said to be careful when catching them sneaking on how i react because if i was hard on my daughter she would be more careful that i simply didn,t find out the next time, which would be worse in the long run...

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:53:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Hi, rhonda. The peanut butter spoon (or peanut butter on celery) was suggested as a snack that doesn't raise blood sugar much or create much need for additional insulin (like a high carb snack would.)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:54:08 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
Betty
A1C Ratio:
ratio b/t my leval and the upper normal of the lab method used. the ratio tells how far above normal, my endo likes them below 1.33,i.e. no more then 1/3 above upper normal, mine was 1.210

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:54:16 Eastern US
rhonda (Megan,7,dx07/99) from 205.188.199.159
It is a spoon with a big blob of peanut butter on it.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:54:36 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
my(pts level)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:54:42 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.52
I'm looking for various bedtime snacks. He always has milk, but cereal is getting old and yogurt doesn't hold him. He requires 30g.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:55:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Yep, Shannon - you got it - a spoon full of peanut butter. Easiest recipe I know!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:56:19 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
Betty, could you e-mail me the recipe to me for that peanut butter spoon?? :-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:56:56 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
boy I can't type at all tonight...maybe I better TEST!!! LOL :-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:57:09 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Shannon, the pedtime snack needs enough fat and a little protein to make the carb last a while -- a snandwhich of just about any kind he likes has 30 grams of carc - Or you could do a half a sandwich with a gladd of milk - anybody got any other good ideas you sue?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:57:36 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.52
But the peanut butter doesn't count carb. wise, ight? So, should I just add it to the snack for more fat & protein to make him last?

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:57:53 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Gary - here it is "Take 1 spoon. Fill the bowl with peanut butter. Pop in the mouth!!"

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:58:38 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
ok Betty, let me write that down real quick so i don't forget!!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:58:40 Eastern US
rhonda (Megan,7,dx07/99) from 205.188.199.159
Would the pb spoon slow down the digestion/absorption of other carbs eaten with it? Any suggestions for maintaining glucose levels at the pool? I tried given lots of protein with carb before going to pool, but her activity level is so varied, she would sometimes end up running high.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:58:57 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
Betyy, where can I get sweet kids in Canada, have had it on order for 4 months!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:58:59 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Shannon, I think 1 tablespoon of peanut butter is 3 grams of carbohydrate.

Mon Apr 16 2001 21:59:22 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Shannon, I'd say try it. People vary in there reponse to specific foods - many people don't see a BG peak after eating peanut butter - probably because of the Low GI and High Fat Content.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:00:07 Eastern US
Anne (Mom of Adison, 6) from 208.167.185.53
We have found that ice cream before bed works well with Adison. The fat is helpful and a bit of protein. She loves the treat too.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:00:49 Eastern US
rhonda (Megan,7,dx07/99) from 205.188.199.159
Shannon Try tortilla chips with melted cheese. Megan liked those until the discovery of ice cream.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:01:09 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Connie - I can't believe you're still hanging in there. e-mail me your address at betty@diabetestraining.com and I'll mail yu a copy and an invoice!! you'll have it next week!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:01:47 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Folks, we're over time for the chat. I want to thank you all for joining in and for sharing. The room will stay open for about another 20 minutes for those that want to finish up their train of thought. Night from AZ.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:01:56 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
Shannon, my Dr suggested ice cream at dx and its worked for us , lots of fat and its rare she wakes up low, depending on what flavor you'd probly need less than a cup.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:02:26 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
Thanks Betty!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:02:29 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
Bye...I'm going to get a peanut butter soon!!!!! Thanks Betty!!!!!:-)

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:02:43 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.44
Thanks everyone.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:02:44 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
soon = SPOON!!!!! LOL :-o

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:02:55 Eastern US
rhonda (Megan,7,dx07/99) from 205.188.199.159
Thanks and good-night.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:03:15 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
LOL...did you expect anything less betty!!! LOL

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:03:31 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
Did you get my note on the A1c ratio?!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:03:40 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Love to hear that so many have discovered ice cream - real kid treat for real kids with D - that also happens to put a floor under blood sugars for a lot of people.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:03:46 Eastern US
Linda from 4.18.149.178
Thanks, all! Have a great week!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:03:55 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.44
Gary, are you making fun of me?

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:04:02 Eastern US
Lorna's Mommy (Mom of Lorna , 7, dx'd @5, honeymooning) from 206.150.118.248
looks like i need to type faster, g'night all i'm going to indulge in some ice cream myself

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:04:13 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Abby likes chocolate pudding for bedtime snack. For swimming we give 1/2 carb at the end of every hour of swimming, then are careful to give extra snack when we get home for when the bg drops about 6 hours later.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:04:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
No, Connie, if you're talking to me -- didn't get it. Wopuld love to know what you found out.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:04:23 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
no Shannon, not at all!!!!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:04:42 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
sorry if you thought that!!!:-(

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:04:52 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
I apologize!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:05:28 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
I posted it back a few, hold on I'll go get it!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:05:30 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.44
Now are you being sarcastic? It's okay, I won't cry. I did ask if it was self explainatory.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:06:06 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
I'm sincere Shannon!!!!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:06:12 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
Betty
A1C Ratio:
ratio b/t my leval and the upper normal of the lab method used. the ratio tells how far above normal, my endo likes them below 1.33,i.e. no more then 1/3 above upper normal, mine was 1.210

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:06:21 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
don't cry!!:-(

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:07:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
Connie - found it! The questions qwe're really flying there for a while and I totlly missed your entry the room. I'll check and see, but I don't think any of our labs here are reporting them that way.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:07:43 Eastern US
Anne (Mom of Adison, 6) from 208.167.185.53
You know, when I first learned of this webpage, there were so many people who visited it 24/7. It surely has slowed down quite a bit.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:08:11 Eastern US
Shannon (Mom of Jordan, 3 1/2, dx. 7/00) from 205.188.197.44
Okay Gary. Well, I just caught a few minutes, but it was good enough. Thanks everyone for your input.Goodnight.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:08:36 Eastern US
BettyB (Food Matters Chat HOst) from 152.163.194.203
I think it's sounds like a reasoable way to get around the varying normal values of the various labs.. Thanks for sharing -- and night all!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:08:47 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
BYE SHANN:-)N!!!!!!!!
Sweet Dreams!!!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:09:46 Eastern US
Gail (Mother of Abby, 9, dx'd at 4) from 24.8.94.145
Thanks! G'Night

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:10:39 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 9 mo; husband T2 2yrs) from 203.98.21.43
oh no am I too late ?

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:10:56 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
sorry Kathryn!!!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:11:09 Eastern US
Kathryn (from NZ; T2 9 mo; husband T2 2yrs) from 203.98.21.43
I must have got tangled up in the daylight savings time conversion.

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:11:22 Eastern US
Connie(BC) from 207.194.16.147
Bye Betty! Thanks for the book concern!!!

Mon Apr 16 2001 22:12:34 Eastern US
gary (...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.26.67.42
HEY, they're serving food in the parent's room!!!!!!



                 
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