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On Thursday, June 26, 2003, dietitian Judy Singley hosted a chat about "Summer, Carbs and You". Here is the transcript from that chat.

Moderator   (server) Thu Jun 26 08:00:00 PM EDT 2003
Our "Summer, Carbs and You" chat with Dietitian Judy Singley starts at 9pm Eastern.

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Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 08:54:44 PM EDT 2003
hello anyone there?

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 08:55:30 PM EDT 2003
Hello

Ellen (FL)   (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 08:55:37 PM EDT 2003
http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=755416

Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:11 p.m. ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - School officials are taking the candy away from New York's kids.

Starting in September, candy, soda and sweet snacks will be banned from vending machines in New York City's education system, the largest in the United States, officials announced at a City Council hearing on Tuesday.

The new standards were issued in response to an obesity epidemic in city schools, but districts across the United States have been reviewing meals and reducing junk food, even though the machines are an important source of revenue for cash-strapped schools.
....
"We firmly believe that good nutrition plays an essential role in health and development and helps young people to do well in school," city school food service head Martin Oestreicher told the council.

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 08:55:50 PM EDT 2003
I am new here

lala45   (68.44.17.195) Thu Jun 26 08:56:47 PM EDT 2003
hi everyone

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 08:56:49 PM EDT 2003
Are you from Florida, Ellen?

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 08:57:26 PM EDT 2003
Hi everyone

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 08:57:30 PM EDT 2003
Hi everyone. Guess Judy isn't here yet.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 08:57:42 PM EDT 2003
Hi everyone, I am Judy Singley and welcome to Summer, Carbs and You...

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 08:57:46 PM EDT 2003
Hi Guys!

lala45   (68.44.17.195) Thu Jun 26 08:57:47 PM EDT 2003
i am 13 with type 1 diabetes

CE aka Ellars (CA) Sam's Mom, 15 dx'd at 12, pumpless  (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 08:58:04 PM EDT 2003
  

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 08:58:06 PM EDT 2003
Yes.

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 08:58:18 PM EDT 2003
Hi Judy

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 08:58:35 PM EDT 2003
The Modesto Democrat, from one of the world's richest agricultural areas, teamed with Rep. Adam Putnam, a Republican from the Florida citrus belt, to introduce a bill that would require federal nutrition programs to force people,

especially children, to eat more of the good stuff.

Their bill would mandate that more fruits, vegetables and 100 percent juices be included in the menus of federally supported school breakfast, lunch and after-school programs. It would also upgrade the $4 billion a year Women, Infants and Children program, which provides food coupons to about 7.5 million low-income mothers and children up to age 5, including 1.26 million in California.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/06/25/MN283408.DTL

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 08:58:39 PM EDT 2003
Ellen, I must say that I think that removing such items from schools is ok with me. It's just the vending machines. Kids can still bring the stuff from home so they aren't feeling deprived.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 08:58:51 PM EDT 2003
What do you consider Summer Carbs?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 08:59:11 PM EDT 2003
Hi Judy. Thanks for being a guest tonight.

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 08:59:14 PM EDT 2003
I got a message room was closed, anybody here?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 08:59:20 PM EDT 2003
Hi Sonia

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 08:59:23 PM EDT 2003
key lime cheesecake.  

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 08:59:32 PM EDT 2003
Popsicles, ice cream, hot dogs, burgers, cotton candy...

karen mom of maddie 3  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 08:59:39 PM EDT 2003
Lala, my little girl is only 3 and still too young to understand what she has, do you have any adivce for me to help her cope as she gets older?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 08:59:53 PM EDT 2003
Brenda, I'm 100% for it too.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 08:59:58 PM EDT 2003
Your welcome Ellen

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:00:32 PM EDT 2003
hi has it started yet?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:00:35 PM EDT 2003
Melons, mango, papaya, nectarines, cherries...wonderful summer fruit

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:00:39 PM EDT 2003
Wow - a great selection of foods....

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:00:57 PM EDT 2003
How do you cover those foods with insulin

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:00:58 PM EDT 2003
Hello...have 4year daughter with diabetes type 1....look forward to this chat Judy..hoping I can learn

CE aka Ellars (CA) Sam's Mom, 15 dx'd at 12, pumpless  (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:01:22 PM EDT 2003
Any food my kids can get in there mouth. Growing teens here.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:02:43 PM EDT 2003
my duaghter loves peaches , strawberrie,buleberries,bananas...I read somwhere that diabetes should avoid friuts!?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:02:47 PM EDT 2003
Growing teens are always hungry and it is important that they take insulin to cover

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:03:10 PM EDT 2003
Judy, sorry Marissa isn't here for the chat--she thought your sessions in Philly were awesome! She's at non-D camp, handling carb counting on her own. We got a text msg. from her about running high in the mornings, 120's the rest of the time. Guess she's not counting those dinner BG's of 45, 33, and 35! We reduced basals by 20% and she is doing additional reductions (it's a camp with a lot of physical activity). Comes home Sat.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:03:31 PM EDT 2003
Fruit is actually healthy to eat, it really is about covering the carbs in the fruit

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 09:03:32 PM EDT 2003
aren't fruits carbs, so they should be OK

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:04:11 PM EDT 2003
When my son was small honeydew melon really made his bg soar...he probably needed more insulin:carb with that fruit

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:04:59 PM EDT 2003
Brenda-Hello Sorry Marissa isn't here - Sounds like she is handling non-diabetes camp well please tell her I said hello

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:05:04 PM EDT 2003
Brenda, I bet you still aren't sleeping!

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:05:38 PM EDT 2003
No way, Ellen. Still wake up the usual times I check her during the night!

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:05:41 PM EDT 2003
Yes Fruits are carbs - some of then will cause a quick rise in blood sugar - like grapes, or melons

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:06:09 PM EDT 2003
I am rather new to carb counting and I find it Very Confusing

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 09:06:18 PM EDT 2003
Judy I have a problem with my daughter she is taking Lantus and Humolog.My problem is that she always want to eat all the time.I need some help about what can I do?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:06:46 PM EDT 2003
For instance - in terms of carb counting melons are aproximately 15 grams/6 ounces

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:06:51 PM EDT 2003
Hello all!

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:06:53 PM EDT 2003
And some have a lot of dietary fiber like blueberries - do you recommend people subtract the amount of dietary fiber from the total grams of carbs consumed?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:07:17 PM EDT 2003
Sonia - how are her blood sugars?

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:07:43 PM EDT 2003
I caught an episode of the show "Calling All Cooks" today on the food network. There was a 20 yr. old boy/man demonstrating 2 different recipes; he said he and his brother both have diabetes (he was young and thin so I assumed Type 1), so they follow low carb diets. The recipes are found at http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,1977,FOOD_9936_10269,00.html He did say the artichokes do have carbs in them.

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 09:07:53 PM EDT 2003
There are always high like around 4:00 her sugar was 430

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:08:19 PM EDT 2003
Carb counting is really about counting the grams of carbohydrate and then calculating insulin needed based on an insulin to carb ratio

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:08:19 PM EDT 2003
I think when kids are hungry all the time (except for teens), they are often getting too much insulin. What do you think?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:08:38 PM EDT 2003
  

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:08:41 PM EDT 2003
My problem is a 3 year old with a very limited diet. Juicy Juice is the only fruit source he consumes. And now it is a fight to get him to eat anything.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:08:42 PM EDT 2003
HI Natalie

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:08:44 PM EDT 2003
I've done that Ellen subtract the amount of dietary fiber form total carbs.my daughters dietician told us to

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 09:08:57 PM EDT 2003
that is what I am trying to do, sometimes good success, sometimes bad

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:09:17 PM EDT 2003
I never cooked an artichoke

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:09:22 PM EDT 2003
Judy- when do you count fiber in a pt? and when do you not? Is there an amount that you start with per day?

Barb107 Insulin pumper  (64.12.96.46) Thu Jun 26 09:09:31 PM EDT 2003
that is what my dietician said also ladygrace

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:09:35 PM EDT 2003
THe insulin:carb ratio can be determined by your M.D., or C.D.E.

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:10:07 PM EDT 2003
Ellen- I steam them YUMMMM

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:10:08 PM EDT 2003
Fiber I usually do not count - I first want to know the effect of the food

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:10:53 PM EDT 2003
Meaning on the blood sugar... Then if the blood sugar goes low - subtract carbs....

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:10:53 PM EDT 2003
Sue- What are your questions??? What are you doing now?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:11:17 PM EDT 2003
I mean grams of Fiber  

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:11:35 PM EDT 2003
I'll have to try them...I've only had the hearts marinated in olive oil

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:11:43 PM EDT 2003
Sue, I won't ask what you weigh (seems they often start with a certain amount of insulin per weight), but will say that my daughter weighs about 110 and usually takes 1 unit per 16 grams, except at breakfast when she takes 1 unit per 10 grams, unless she eats "breakfast" at 11:30--the life of a teen! LOL

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:12:06 PM EDT 2003
Sonia, Lilia's bgs are usually in the 400s????

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:12:18 PM EDT 2003
yes the effect of the food..can that be different of the individuals ? usually it is better to eat a fruit that is not so ripe

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 09:12:49 PM EDT 2003
Only at dinner time

joe jr dad of 6yr old  (216.107.79.86) Thu Jun 26 09:12:54 PM EDT 2003
my little guy likes a little debbie honey bun, 26carbs, and a glass of juice ,40 carbs, for brk.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:13:06 PM EDT 2003
You can also determine the insulin to carb ratio by units of insulin per day

bebe 12 ,pump  (67.33.196.185) Thu Jun 26 09:13:14 PM EDT 2003
hi

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:13:20 PM EDT 2003
all I was told was: 1 Starch= 15g cho ; ! Fruit/Veg=10g cho and 1 Milk=6g cho

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:13:36 PM EDT 2003
evening all..hi Natalie & Judy...seems like almosy everyone has problems with breakfast..what 'tricks" have you both found to avoid those post-prandial breakfast spikes in bgs?

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:13:45 PM EDT 2003
Judy, how can you subtract the carbs AFTER you have taken a certain amount of insulin?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:13:47 PM EDT 2003
What do you think of the 500 Rule For Determining Insulin To Carb Ratio?

http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_control_tips/500rule.php

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:13:53 PM EDT 2003
Ellen - are you carb counting?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:14:38 PM EDT 2003
Ellen - I think it is a great tool - 500 divided by the total insulin per day = carb ratio

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:14:47 PM EDT 2003
SueS, I count 8 oz./1 c. milk as 12g. That's skim milk.

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:14:56 PM EDT 2003
My son carb counts and does quite well with it. I was suggesting the 500 rule for people who need a starting point.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:15:01 PM EDT 2003
That is used with Humalog and Novolog

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:15:12 PM EDT 2003
I give insulin 45-59 minutes before I eat and use a 1/10 CHO ratio

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:15:56 PM EDT 2003
Brenda - actually you can't - I hope I did not say that...

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:16:19 PM EDT 2003
Natalie - for all meals?-or just breakfast?

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:16:46 PM EDT 2003
Natalie: do you only do that with breakfast or do you give insulin ahead of other meals too??? Almost sounds like the old NPH days giving the insulin so far ahead....doesn't that make you go low before the food has been digested???

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:16:50 PM EDT 2003
I think Marissa would go low if she took her insulin that much time before a meal. However, I encourage that when she's over 175. I also encourage her to bolus a couple of units during the meal, the rest afterwards.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:17:04 PM EDT 2003
I live in Canada and have never heard of this 500 rule   

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:17:06 PM EDT 2003
Natalie that's with Humalog or Novolog?

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:17:24 PM EDT 2003
Breakfast and as often as I can the rest of the day...

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:17:36 PM EDT 2003
I take my insulin depending on my pre-meal blood sugar - normal just before the meal - higher 15 minutes before. Low 15 minutes or so into the meal

CE aka Ellars (CA) Sam's Mom, 15 dx'd at 12, pumpless  (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:17:46 PM EDT 2003
Sam eats and then takes his insulin. He has done quite well that way. Sometimes he has highs but that is only if he "forgets" to give himself an injection.

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:17:51 PM EDT 2003
Sue S. Read about the 500 rule at this URL
500 Rule For Determining Insulin To Carb Ratio
http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_control_tips/500rule.php

KDDN MOM OF NOAH 5 DXD 1  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:18:07 PM EDT 2003
HI ROOM

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:18:16 PM EDT 2003
Judy, you said "Fiber I usually do not count - I first want to know the effect of the food." Did I misinterpret this statement? I could have.  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:18:19 PM EDT 2003
The all American Breakfast - cereal milk and juice - 15 - 30 minutes before

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:18:19 PM EDT 2003
Sue, I am in Georgia and I have no idea what they are talking about. NEW TO THIS!!!!

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:18:22 PM EDT 2003
My son had a sliding scale for time to wait before eating when he used Regular insulin. That was a long time ago.

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:18:24 PM EDT 2003
Brenda: same guidelines I've suggested to Melissa...she used to only bolus after the meal...

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 09:18:28 PM EDT 2003
Judy should I give my daughter her insulin before she eats? Cause I give it to her after she eats.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:18:46 PM EDT 2003
I have found that when I give my daughter high fiber foods her bg's are good ...

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:19:05 PM EDT 2003
Hi Stephanie, I am in Georgia also...

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:19:17 PM EDT 2003
Thank you Stephanie   

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:19:39 PM EDT 2003
wow - all of this just goes to prove my old "snowflake theory"..no 2 people with diabetes are alike!! LOL...good to hear how others handle the same scenario in different ways

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:20:01 PM EDT 2003
I make sure my son really likes what he's eating before he takes the insulin for the meal...

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:20:04 PM EDT 2003
NO. But if the insulin peaks in 40-50 minutes (novolog) I can give a bolus in bed and eat after my shower/hair/makeup...

joe jr dad of 6yr old  (216.107.79.86) Thu Jun 26 09:20:05 PM EDT 2003
we inj only before brk, 3r/16n . is this "old school'?

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:20:13 PM EDT 2003
Renee, perhaps another way to avoid that post-breakfast high is to have a protein only breakfast. I'm sure you get up and make eggs and some type of meat for Melissa when she's home.  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:20:22 PM EDT 2003
First I want to know the effect of the food on the blood sugar - if it is a high fiber food - such as berries - does the blood sugar go low, after the insulin and food- subtract the fiber

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:20:38 PM EDT 2003
Ladygrace, where are you at. We live in Canton an hour north of Atlanta.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:21:08 PM EDT 2003
I try to sneak in foods as lentil, barley, alot of vegetable in soups ,it is much easier for a 4 year old to eat it in a soup

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:21:30 PM EDT 2003
I'd rather subtract the fiber and then find out if it works, rather than find out if you go low and then not subtract it the next time.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:21:33 PM EDT 2003
I am inside 285 Dekalb county

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:21:39 PM EDT 2003
I was told not to count fibre

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:21:42 PM EDT 2003
I think we are old school also, we are on the NPH and Novolog. Set amounts at each injection??

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:21:45 PM EDT 2003
yeah right Brenda - NOT!!!!....of course she's in NYC, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't!!....last summer she was eating my high fiber Weight Watchers muffins for breakfast & that seemed to help her lunchtime bgs....

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:21:51 PM EDT 2003
Son?ia, what is the effect on her blood sugar when you do that

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:22:40 PM EDT 2003
A protein breakfast is a great idea - but children do not always like to eat the same thing...

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:22:43 PM EDT 2003
I admit that I rarely, if ever, consider the amount of fiber in any food.

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:23:11 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie, Are you getting the numbers you want?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:23:26 PM EDT 2003
Ellen - it truly becomes what works best for you

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 09:23:27 PM EDT 2003
Well she always ends up high at lunch and dinner. But bedtime she is fine

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:23:27 PM EDT 2003
Brenda, ever buy the Kashi cereals? Some of them have 10 grams of fiber in one serving. Zack subtracts it out...works well for him.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:24:00 PM EDT 2003
We have to have different stategies for different times of day and meals

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:24:11 PM EDT 2003
Judy, I'll send you a 9 yr. old boy who'll eat Mac. and Cheese at any time, any day. He doesn't have D., but I'd like to get him to eat other foods.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:24:16 PM EDT 2003
so if you eat an all protien meal you would nont necessarilyhave to give an injeciton(unless high) and the amount of protien sometimes could counted as an exchange?

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:24:41 PM EDT 2003
NO, Last week we had alot of 400's this week we are dealing with lows (40's)

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:24:47 PM EDT 2003
What works best for you - meaning are the blood sugar numbers where you want them to be

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:25:09 PM EDT 2003
Ellen..I saw those the kashi cereal..I thik they are very good to introduce

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:25:14 PM EDT 2003
Judy - do you find that many pumpers need more insulin earlier in the day? My daughter's breakfast ratio has been as high as 1 unit for 7 or 8 grams of carbs/ wheras dinner was 1:10 & bedtime was 1:15

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:25:16 PM EDT 2003
good question ladygrace

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:25:33 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie - Where do you live?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:25:45 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie, if the NPH/Novolog combination isn't working well for Garrett, suggest to the doctor to try other insulin combinations.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:25:49 PM EDT 2003
An interesting ?

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:25:55 PM EDT 2003
Ellen, we have bought two types of Kashi--one that Jeff was interested in trying (snacked on it about a week, then decided it wasn't very tasty after all) and one because Jeff's brother is one of the faces on the box. That particular cereal is like eating cardboard. I'll have to find some and show it to you in Orlando.

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:26:22 PM EDT 2003
Ladygrace- Just ate Tuna and alvacado with wasabi and ginger- no carbs and I give a 2 unit extended bolus over 4 hours as the protwin does digest into carbs. If my bs is high I avoid carbs until it is down, no snse feeding a high...

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:26:28 PM EDT 2003
We are in Georgia, visit doctors out of Scottish Rite but will be changing to Emory dr's next month. Can't Wait!!

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:26:39 PM EDT 2003
60 0/0 of Protein is converted to glucose - so sometimes with an all protein meal you will need to take insulin to cover

KDDN MOM OF NOAH 5 DXD 1  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:26:40 PM EDT 2003
judy my son noah will be going to kinder. for the first time,hes never been cared for by any one but me do you have any suggestions for a good breakfast or snacks?  

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:27:01 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie ..we go to Emory..actually had my duaghter's endo visit today

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:27:17 PM EDT 2003
How many years have you had Type 1 Natalie?

Sonia Lilia 5 d'xd @ 10/99  (66.214.123.175) Thu Jun 26 09:27:33 PM EDT 2003
Good questions Kddn

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:27:39 PM EDT 2003
Ellen, our dr's are very hard to work with. Garrett is 4 month's into this and still has not had a A1C???

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:27:43 PM EDT 2003
If your weather is anything like Philadelphia it is hot and the hot weather is causing lower blood sugars... The effect of the heat

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:27:45 PM EDT 2003
Natalie, I struggle with Marissa over this. When she's 325, for ex., she'll do a correction bolus, but sometimes she will still eat something. It drives me crazy.

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:28:00 PM EDT 2003
feels like forever-35

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:28:03 PM EDT 2003
Why does the heat cause lows?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:28:24 PM EDT 2003
Brenda, I buy lots of the Kashi cereals   . I like almost all of the health food store type foods - but BLECH to whole wheat pasta!

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:28:31 PM EDT 2003
natalie....would you give that same 2 units spread over 4 hrs for any non-carb protein meal???....my daughter had an oriental noodle salad with peanut sauce yesterday while babysitting...took NOTHING for it figuring it was 98 degrees & she was outside pushing a stroller for blocks....surprise: bgs shot up to 500!!!!....so do you EVER not take any insulin when you eat????

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:28:44 PM EDT 2003
Unless of course there is increased physical activity - and that can cause lows...

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:28:47 PM EDT 2003
my duaghters' A1C was in fair control.she had been running high,,growth spurt and had to increase her lantus

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:28:50 PM EDT 2003
Ladygrace, I assume you are seeing Dr. Hansen?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:29:06 PM EDT 2003
good question Brenda

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:29:11 PM EDT 2003
Do you think you digest slower Natalie - after 35 years of diabetes? I think the extended bolus you were suggesting for yourself, might not work in a little kid.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:29:44 PM EDT 2003
Yoour body has to work harder to keep itself cool and therefore uses more glucose in the process

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:29:46 PM EDT 2003
I notice that my daughter runs high when excited and she really asn't eaten anything tomake her hgih..?

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:29:54 PM EDT 2003
Brenda-she is a teen, Harder to justify why to wait. We are workingg on that in Orlando

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:29:56 PM EDT 2003
yes we are ..she is wonderful

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:30:17 PM EDT 2003
Renee, don't the noodles have tons of carbs?

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:30:39 PM EDT 2003
Garrett is the exact opposite he gets hyper when he is low.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:30:41 PM EDT 2003
she really puts me at ease....will you be going to her?

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:30:51 PM EDT 2003
The extended bolus s for PROTEIN that will turn into carbs over time...

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:31:01 PM EDT 2003
Well, Natalie, you have a better chance of getting thru to her because I am mom and no teen wants to do what their mom says.  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:31:33 PM EDT 2003
I have never heard of HOT weather causing LOWS

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:31:46 PM EDT 2003
I'm sure they do Brenda....I think she was nervous abotu being out with a baby & going low so she "justified" it by saying she was getting a lot of exercise, etc...good news is she did check, corrected & was in range a few hrs later,,,,

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:32:06 PM EDT 2003
I'm also concerned that some parents reading this chat may think they should be waiting from the time the child takes insulin until the child starts to eat - could be VERY DANGEROUS in a little child on fast acting insulin...just something that may need clarification.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:32:06 PM EDT 2003
Brenda - how about eating the non-carb portion of the meal first and then the carb portion later - giving the insulin time to work

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:32:12 PM EDT 2003
Maybe that helps explain why Marissa has been low at camp this week.

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:32:18 PM EDT 2003
Yes, and have heard alot of good things about her. She is willing to use Lantus and even discuss the pump for younger kids. We are not happy with NPH and Novolog.

KDDN MOM OF NOAH 5 DXD 1  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:32:51 PM EDT 2003
my son cant play out in the hot weather at all his sugar drops in minutes and we live in florida so you can imagine how much he gets to play outside  

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:33:49 PM EDT 2003
lantus is good...daughter on novolog and will be looking at pump in Oct..it will be a year on the 21st of oct since my daughter's diagnosis

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:34:22 PM EDT 2003
Judy: do you find a lot of high bgs are atttributable to under-"guesstimating" the carbs in non-labelled foods, as opposed to ratio problems?

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:34:28 PM EDT 2003
KDDN, you have to find foods that will keep his bg elevated...and he may just need much less insulin when he's playing outdoors. (I'm also in Florida, but my son prefers to stay on the couch indoors   )

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:34:39 PM EDT 2003
Ellen, I'm not sure what you are asking, but we wait until we Garrett has started eating before we give the injection.?

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:34:48 PM EDT 2003
KDDN my daughter does not do well in heat either..she gets irratated...

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:35:26 PM EDT 2003
I think that I responded to the 'Natalie, what do you do?' question. I NEVER RECOMMEND that children bolus more than 30 minutes before a meal...

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:35:27 PM EDT 2003
my daughter only gets injuecitons after seh has consumed her foods...she also has supplement in cse she is high before her meals

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:36:03 PM EDT 2003
More under-guesstimating then carb ratio

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:36:34 PM EDT 2003
Carb counting is not the easiest to do - especially for non-labeled food

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:36:35 PM EDT 2003
Hi...I have a quick question...daughter wants the computer...does anyone happen to know what the carb count of slushies...diet coke on shaved ice just doesn't do it sometimes in this heat?

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:37:07 PM EDT 2003
With the short acting insulins, the shot after eating is often the best choice for toddlers. I have vivid memories of trying to force feed Marissa back when she was a toddler. Once you gave that shot of Regular, you had to eat in no more than an hour.

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:37:09 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie, that's great as long as it works for your son...it works for many parents of little children. I was concerned because Natalie said she boluses (takes insulin) quite some time BEFORE eating, and I didn't want parents of little kids to think they should do that.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:37:24 PM EDT 2003
it is very tricky in the summer with the diabetes for children

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:37:43 PM EDT 2003
Should be zero carbs if it's Diet Coke on ice.

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:37:52 PM EDT 2003
tricky in the winter too ladygrace!!! just plain tricky - whenever!!

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:37:57 PM EDT 2003
You can use the blood sugar after a meal and the bolus is finished to guide you for the next time you eat a similar meal.

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:38:43 PM EDT 2003
I was given a website to look at it is www.caloireking.com that my nutrionist recommended..so when I 'am at home and not sure aobut carbs on certain food it has a preety good database on carbs/foods

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:38:59 PM EDT 2003
a Minute Maid cherry slushie ( 8 oz) is 32 carbs..go to www.calorieking.com

Evie   (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:39:05 PM EDT 2003
Hey everyone!

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:39:07 PM EDT 2003
calorieking.com sorry about spelling

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:39:09 PM EDT 2003
I would use 4 ounces of slushie = 15 grams and measure the ounces of slushie

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:39:14 PM EDT 2003
LOL....great minds ladygrace!!

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:39:24 PM EDT 2003
Ellen, again at 37 that is what I do But I NEVER MAKE ANY DOSING TO a patient i have not assessed

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:40:04 PM EDT 2003
Calorieking.com is a wonderful reference

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:40:06 PM EDT 2003
alot of fast food have webites and give nutritional info..so before you go out you can check it out or call them

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:40:23 PM EDT 2003
right Renne   I use this website alot

Kim Mom of Jimmy,6, dx'd on May 2,2003  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:40:32 PM EDT 2003
To Carrie - 7-11 now has "Diet" Slushies, usually Coke or Sprite

Ellen (FL) Zack 15, pump  (152.163.252.2) Thu Jun 26 09:40:56 PM EDT 2003
I just wanted to make sure that parents who read this later, don't misinterpret.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:41:02 PM EDT 2003
thank you ladygrace for calorie website   

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:41:05 PM EDT 2003
but fast foods so much fat content and the frying is so bad

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:41:07 PM EDT 2003
sorry..we have diet coke on ice instead of slushies at present because we don't know the carb count of slushies...I'm not sure what they are called in the USA...it's a shaved ice drink with sugar solution that has a syrup poured on top

Cheryl Mom of Haley, 10, dx'd at 9  (12.232.108.46) Thu Jun 26 09:41:47 PM EDT 2003
7-11 also have crystal light slushies

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:42:06 PM EDT 2003
diet slushies...wow...going to have to look for that

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:42:09 PM EDT 2003
Carrie where are you from?

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:42:13 PM EDT 2003
JUDY, PLEASE ADDRESS FATS...

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 09:42:21 PM EDT 2003
your welcome SueS...it is great use it!

Renee Melissa, 20, dx'd at 9, pump 7 yrs  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:42:27 PM EDT 2003
when my daughter checked up on Cinnabons & found out one large one was 128 grams of carbohydrate & that she'd need THIRTEEN units of insulin for it, she said "oh forget it!!!..I don't want it now!!"

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:43:00 PM EDT 2003
Today we had a bg of 40 at lunch, treated it with a juice box, but Garrett started to fall asleep before the 15 minute period was up, gave him another juice within 5 minutes of first one, was this right?

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:43:13 PM EDT 2003
Canada

Cassy Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:43:21 PM EDT 2003
Hello  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:43:31 PM EDT 2003
If the blood sugar is high after a specific meal - and you calculate the units of insulin needed to lower the hi - next time you eat the same meal add the hi blood sugar insulin to the meal insulin taken and you will have the insulin needed

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:43:35 PM EDT 2003
fats confuse me  

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 09:43:54 PM EDT 2003
Renee, She is starting to 'get it'

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:43:57 PM EDT 2003
FATS, NOT FATS  

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:44:23 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie, I think it depends on how many carbs were in the juice and what his BG was at the 15 min. mark.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:44:23 PM EDT 2003
Carrie nice to know I'm not the only one   

Evie   (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:44:26 PM EDT 2003
Hello Cassy

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:44:31 PM EDT 2003
Fat combined with a carbohydrate will slow down the rise in blood sugar after a meal or snack

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:45:12 PM EDT 2003
Foods such as Mac and cheese, pizza, Fast food meals-burger and fries

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:45:23 PM EDT 2003
SueS..Where are you in Canada?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:45:27 PM EDT 2003
An extended bolus on a pump works very well

CE aka Ellars (CA) Sam's Mom, 15 dx'd at 12, pumpless  (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:45:38 PM EDT 2003
Thanks for everything Judy. Need to go. TTFN   

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:45:54 PM EDT 2003
Ontario Carrie where are you?

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:45:55 PM EDT 2003
It was a 15g (1 carb) and I was afraid to wait any longer because of him becoming so sleepy so fast.

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:46:01 PM EDT 2003
Marissa often drinks the 15g Juicy Juices when low. If she has a larger juice box, with 26g or whatever, she will cover the extra carbs (over 15) with insulin, BUT that's if her low is 50-70.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:46:49 PM EDT 2003
You do not want to take the all the insulin at the beginning of the meal, because the fat slows down the rise in blood sugar

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:47:18 PM EDT 2003
You also have to realize that a 3 yr. old can't really say he's low, so I guess the second juice box was a good idea. What was his BG after 30 min?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:47:22 PM EDT 2003
Your welcome CE   I hope to see you in Florida

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:48:05 PM EDT 2003
That's easy for pumpers to do, but how do people on MDI cope with higher fat foods?

Evie   (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:48:22 PM EDT 2003
Judy- I have to leave, butis there a way I can direct questions to you in the future?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:48:29 PM EDT 2003
Some adults and children report that when they eat a hi fat meal, as they are eating they feel like the blood sugar is dropping

Cassy Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:48:45 PM EDT 2003
Judy-I am 32 and have high cholesterol, my HDL is high but unfortunately so is my LDL. Because of my young age and the fact that many of our relatives have high cholesterol Nathan's ped suggested that I start screening his cholesterol yearly...what is your opinion on this?

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:49:05 PM EDT 2003
We had him up to 95 after the second juice box and then only fed him one carb for lunch. ( he normally gets 2 for lunch)

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:49:13 PM EDT 2003
Evie - you are welcome to E-mail me @ JCSRDMACDE (at) aol.com

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:49:36 PM EDT 2003
Carrie you still there?

Cassy Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:49:57 PM EDT 2003
he's still in honeymoon Stephanie?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:50:27 PM EDT 2003
MDI - I recommend taking half the insulin up front and half at the end of the meal or even 30 - 60 minutes after the meal..

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:50:37 PM EDT 2003
Sorry..problem with connection

Cassy Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:50:38 PM EDT 2003
Brendea- we give Nath a shot the sme way that you would bolus

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:51:07 PM EDT 2003
I'm still waiting for Judy to tell us not to let our kids eat high fat foods so we don't have to deal with this issue.  ::

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:51:15 PM EDT 2003
YES, I thought with the 400's last week we were coming out of it but everything has turned around. This gets harder and harder!!

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:51:19 PM EDT 2003
I'm from Ontario as well...near Cambridge

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:51:29 PM EDT 2003
Ontario Carrie where are you?

Cassy Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:51:34 PM EDT 2003
If we are at a party and Nathan wants a piece of cake we will test and then give him a shot of Humalog...work like a charm

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:51:42 PM EDT 2003
Ah.... Good answer, but is that a real possibility?  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:51:57 PM EDT 2003
cool

Cassy Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:52:22 PM EDT 2003
Hang in there Stephanie!

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:52:39 PM EDT 2003
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Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:52:56 PM EDT 2003
I think a good idea , would be to eliminate those high fat foods from the grocery stores and restaurants - just kidding  

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 09:52:59 PM EDT 2003
Judy, have YOU ever tried giving an injection to a toddler? I remember, not fondly, many tears, on my part, as I chased Marissa around the house to get those shots done. I doubt she would have done two per meal. time.    

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:53:13 PM EDT 2003
opps...are you near me SueS

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:53:36 PM EDT 2003
We are lucky- Nathan really doesn't mind them

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:53:45 PM EDT 2003
Kingston ON

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:54:00 PM EDT 2003
Judy- did you see my post about cholesterol

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:54:11 PM EDT 2003
You know for children, fat plays a very important part of their diet - it really helps them to feel full, it helps to give them calories for growth processes, it tastes good

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:54:48 PM EDT 2003
a little farther away but closer than the USA...LOL

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:55:01 PM EDT 2003
Nathan needed fat he was still a baby at dx and babies need fat for brain development

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:55:17 PM EDT 2003
plus he loves it!  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:55:21 PM EDT 2003
Cassy - sorry I did not

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 09:55:40 PM EDT 2003
is it mabey a 4 hr drive?

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:56:02 PM EDT 2003
Judy-I am 32 and have high cholesterol, my HDL is high but unfortunately so is my LDL. Because of my young age and the fact that many of our relatives have high cholesterol Nathan's ped suggested that I start screening his cholesterol yearly...what is your opinion on this?

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 09:56:14 PM EDT 2003
Judy, all Garrett wants are the fats, we have to work hard to get real carbs in him! He could live off of bacon and cheese??? AND GARRETT HATES THE INJECTIONS!

Allison Sevaun, 5 dx'd @ 3; daughter to Jean, dx'd 1949  (207.213.88.135) Thu Jun 26 09:56:14 PM EDT 2003
Cass, Sevaun's endo does screen his Cholesterol when he does his A1c. Judy, Sevaun's cholesterol is 203, any suggestions? I have way cut back on the bologna, pizza and McDonalds.

Evie   (198.81.26.6) Thu Jun 26 09:56:22 PM EDT 2003
Thank you Judy--Signing off!  

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:57:02 PM EDT 2003
also, beggars can't be choosers- Nathan was/is a very picky eater!

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:57:05 PM EDT 2003
Cassy - How old is your son?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:57:21 PM EDT 2003
Evie - Your welcome -   

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:57:27 PM EDT 2003
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Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 09:58:00 PM EDT 2003
yep...4 to 5 hours drive

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:58:15 PM EDT 2003
Allison - I would make sure to incude monounsaturated fat in his diet

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:58:19 PM EDT 2003
I always say-if meat had carbs, we'd be home free

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:58:43 PM EDT 2003
he just turned 3 Judy

Ellen (FL)   (166.72.126.217) Thu Jun 26 09:58:56 PM EDT 2003
Stephanie, there was a lot of discussion on the peds endo listserve this week - find out about insuflon...its a subcu catheter - you can change it 2x per week and give injections through it.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:58:58 PM EDT 2003
Monounsaturated fat is cold pressed extra virgin olive oil, peanut butter

Allison Sevaun, 5 dx'd @ 3; daughter to Jean, dx'd 1949  (207.213.88.135) Thu Jun 26 09:59:00 PM EDT 2003
Can you give an example of some foods that contain monounsaturated fat?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 09:59:23 PM EDT 2003
THe monounsaturated fats help to lower cholesterol

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 09:59:31 PM EDT 2003
cook things in Olive and Canola oil Allison

Allison Sevaun, 5 dx'd @ 3; daughter to Jean, dx'd 1949  (207.213.88.135) Thu Jun 26 09:59:39 PM EDT 2003
You were reading my mind.   Thanks. I'm glad you said that because I was refusing him peanut butter because of the fat.

Allison Sevaun, 5 dx'd @ 3; daughter to Jean, dx'd 1949  (207.213.88.135) Thu Jun 26 10:00:23 PM EDT 2003
I'll throw out all my vegetable oil and go canola.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:00:45 PM EDT 2003
Cassy - Probably a good idea to do a screening - Natalie do you know the National Cholesterol Ed Guidelines?

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:00:48 PM EDT 2003
good fat will raise his HDL which will help bring down the LDL-also try fiber!!

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 10:01:01 PM EDT 2003
When I bake, such as the apple cake I made this afternoon, I used Safflower oil. What kind of fat is that? I don't want to use Olive Oil in a cake. Should I try canola; would the taste be any different?

Natalie Bellini Nurse, diabetes educator and person with diabetes  (66.7.139.98) Thu Jun 26 10:01:06 PM EDT 2003
Judy-I need to SLEEP. Call me tomorrow. THANKS A MILLION AND GREAT JOB!!!

Stephanie Garrett's Mom, 3, dx'd 2/17/03  (24.53.98.140) Thu Jun 26 10:01:07 PM EDT 2003
I saw that Ellen, we were going to ask the new ped endo in July. We loved the idea, just wanted to talk w/ the endo first. Thank you!

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:01:17 PM EDT 2003
can you sneak some wheat germ onto his cereal?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:01:42 PM EDT 2003
Definitely add those fats to the diet - actually everyone needs to - there are great things about fat we will have to a chat about that..

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:02:03 PM EDT 2003
I have baked with canola oil Brenda-I also use it to pop popcorn

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:02:21 PM EDT 2003
That would be great Judy

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:02:54 PM EDT 2003
Judy could I email you? We have a terrible shortage of dietitians here. I made apt this month can't get in till Oct  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:03:02 PM EDT 2003
Safflower oil is a polyunsaturated fat - loweres cholesterol, but does not lower LDL or raise HDL - which Mono's do. Use Canola oil in baking...

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:03:30 PM EDT 2003
Sue-yes JCSRDMACDE (at) aol.com

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 10:03:35 PM EDT 2003
I will add canola oil to my grocery list.
Jeff recently got some Krema peanut butter, made with no sugar or hydrogenated oils. Supposed to be healthier; has to be refrigerated.

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:04:03 PM EDT 2003
Good night Natalie!!! Talk with you tomorrow>

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:04:06 PM EDT 2003
Is it good Brenda?

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:04:30 PM EDT 2003
Judy- where are you from? Our dietician is named Judy  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:05:03 PM EDT 2003
It is a good idea to refrigerate the mono's to prevent rancidity(sp?)

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:05:14 PM EDT 2003
I am from the Philadelphia area

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:05:16 PM EDT 2003
Carrie you still there?

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 10:05:34 PM EDT 2003
Cassy, I don't know; the only time I eat peanut butter is when I make p.b. cookies or homemade p.b. cups and then I mix it with powdered sugar and melted margarine, as well as the high fat chocolate.

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:05:59 PM EDT 2003
YUM!  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:06:17 PM EDT 2003
Yep...dial up is very slow tonight

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:06:28 PM EDT 2003
I eat it right out of the jar-so that kind would be GREAT for me!

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:07:03 PM EDT 2003
I went with high speed cable  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:07:13 PM EDT 2003
We have a great dietician at MacMaster Children's Hospital

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:07:16 PM EDT 2003
Judy- do you find that Fiber has a different effect on bg-similar to that of fats?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:07:51 PM EDT 2003
must be nice

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:07:54 PM EDT 2003
alas...live in the country...no cable in the boonies

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:08:05 PM EDT 2003
For some people fiber has a similar effect to fats... You again can use extended bolus on apump

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:08:54 PM EDT 2003
Use the blood sugars to determine how to deliver or inject insulin

Allison Sevaun, 5 dx'd @ 3; daughter to Jean, dx'd 1949  (207.213.88.135) Thu Jun 26 10:09:04 PM EDT 2003
Cass, Sevaun loves to eat peanutbutter right out of the jar too. I'll just start offering him some every day.

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:09:16 PM EDT 2003
Oct is too long to wait for an appt...isn't medicare great!

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:09:24 PM EDT 2003
I LOVE it Allison!

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:10:00 PM EDT 2003
but you have acsess to great dietitian I would trade my high speed for that any day

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:10:18 PM EDT 2003
lololo  

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:10:31 PM EDT 2003
Well, all I have to go walk the dogs - they are crossing their paws... Hope to see you in Florida  

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 10:10:45 PM EDT 2003
Are there any other questions for Judy? She's been a great help, spending the last hour with us.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:11:10 PM EDT 2003
nice to meet you Judy

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:11:16 PM EDT 2003
Thank you Judy!

Brenda H. mom of Marissa, 15.5, dx'd 9/89  (216.68.227.14) Thu Jun 26 10:11:36 PM EDT 2003
Judy, thanks for taking the time to try to help us all. We will have to schedule another chat for later in the year.  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:11:55 PM EDT 2003
does Judy ever come to Canada to speak

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:11:56 PM EDT 2003
so true Sue...so true

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:12:00 PM EDT 2003
It has been nice to meet all of you, too!!!!  

Cassy(OH) Nathan, 3, dx'd@ 14 months  (216.144.9.142) Thu Jun 26 10:12:06 PM EDT 2003
Allison- go to the parents room?

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:12:16 PM EDT 2003
SueS - I would be glad to

Judy IDDM, Pumper, R.D., C.D.E.  (205.188.208.6) Thu Jun 26 10:12:56 PM EDT 2003
Good night!

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:13:13 PM EDT 2003
We'd love to see you Judy (maybe even have a conference in Canada someday)

ladygrace   (24.98.96.205) Thu Jun 26 10:13:15 PM EDT 2003
thank you so much Judy....had to deal with a crying 4 year old over her snack issue  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:13:20 PM EDT 2003
Carrie do you ever go to parents room???

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:13:30 PM EDT 2003
Thanks all...nice to meet you Sue

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:13:41 PM EDT 2003
YES yes YES  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:13:47 PM EDT 2003
no...first time chatter

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:14:04 PM EDT 2003
perhaps I should try though

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:14:23 PM EDT 2003
nice to meet you too Carrie

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:14:40 PM EDT 2003
when does it happen

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:15:07 PM EDT 2003
the room is always open 24/7

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:15:33 PM EDT 2003
Hi...guess I missed the carbs chat...SueS, you still here? I'm in Canada too. Ontario.

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:15:53 PM EDT 2003
wow...I'll give it a try...see ya there in the future

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:16:13 PM EDT 2003
Linda where in ONT I'm in Kingston??

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:16:28 PM EDT 2003
bye Carrie  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:16:38 PM EDT 2003
I'm from Cambridge

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:17:13 PM EDT 2003
I have a cousin who lives in Kingston.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:17:33 PM EDT 2003
Hi Carrie.

I'm in Sault Ste. Marie.....grew up in Toronto.

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:18:10 PM EDT 2003
we need our own Ontario board tonight

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:18:22 PM EDT 2003
I was born in Toronto   

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:19:04 PM EDT 2003
Did you guys find the chat helpful? I had to learn everything on my own about carbs, etc. Not much help here on that or anything else for that matter.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:19:07 PM EDT 2003
I wish Canada had a site like this

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:19:39 PM EDT 2003
I miss the big city sometimes...I moved from there when I was 27.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:19:58 PM EDT 2003
This is an awesome site!!

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:20:18 PM EDT 2003
I've learned alot from this site...the info from my home hospital was a bit dated

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:20:45 PM EDT 2003
not really I only recently learned about Carb counting I wasn't told much I find it Very Confusing  

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:21:13 PM EDT 2003
Carrie, yes....a lot of dated stuff here too.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:22:07 PM EDT 2003
Sue...my head spun in the beginning when I was learning about carb counting but eventually it's easy.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:22:15 PM EDT 2003
my DR and diabetes educator have never even HEARD of this site!!!!  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:22:34 PM EDT 2003
we did very strict carb counting for over a year...just learned insulin to carb ratio recently

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:23:30 PM EDT 2003
it has changed our life...made pumping introduction much smoother

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:23:34 PM EDT 2003
hey we should call this the Canadian Room lol

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:24:22 PM EDT 2003
the pump has made my life SO much easier  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:24:30 PM EDT 2003
yes...now we need a conference..Orlando is too far

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:25:02 PM EDT 2003
we love it...3 weeks and counting

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:25:11 PM EDT 2003
I agree I goe so sad when I saw that I want to go so bad  

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:25:21 PM EDT 2003
Carrie, we started to carb count from the beginning of diagnosis too and definitely made the transition to the pump much easier. Started the insulin to carb ratios about 1½ weeks after pump start.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:25:36 PM EDT 2003
Yeah....I wish we could go to the conference too  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:25:59 PM EDT 2003
What kind of pumps are being used?

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:26:24 PM EDT 2003
Animas for Andrew.....Andrew's Animas  

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:26:45 PM EDT 2003
AA

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:26:51 PM EDT 2003
my son has the minimed 508c

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:27:03 PM EDT 2003
Disetronic...but we still have a loaner...they are not shipping it yet  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:27:45 PM EDT 2003
LOL Linda...ours is called Pumpy

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:28:19 PM EDT 2003
cute

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:28:48 PM EDT 2003
Karen I have Minimed 508

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:29:06 PM EDT 2003
how long have you guys been pumping

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:29:20 PM EDT 2003
since 2000

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:29:28 PM EDT 2003
3 pump companies being represented here....the more well know ones.

Eva, (Ohio) Mom of Chloe, 7, dx'd at 7  (24.160.173.76) Thu Jun 26 10:29:41 PM EDT 2003
Hello

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:29:55 PM EDT 2003
when we started i didn't get a choice, I got the 507. now its 3 years so we got to upgrade.  

Eva, (Ohio) Mom of Chloe, 7, dx'd at 7  (24.160.173.76) Thu Jun 26 10:30:10 PM EDT 2003
okay I'm a newbie (new at this). Tell me what carb counting is please

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:30:17 PM EDT 2003
Andrew's been using the pump for almost 10 months....since September 4, 2002

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:30:36 PM EDT 2003
i've been pumping for 4 years in august

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:31:08 PM EDT 2003
at the time I got my pump I had only heard of 2 kinds Diesetronic and Minimed

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:31:32 PM EDT 2003
carb counting= matching insulin to the amount of carbohydrated consumed

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:31:53 PM EDT 2003
I think they might be closing this room soon. Carbs are what is converted to glucose....carb-counting helps to manage type 1 better because you give insulin according to how many carbs you are eating.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:32:48 PM EDT 2003
Karen did they just give you the upgrade for FREE????

Eva, (Ohio) Mom of Chloe, 7, dx'd at 7  (24.160.173.76) Thu Jun 26 10:32:51 PM EDT 2003
Thanks....I guess I do know some of that, sorry I missed the origianl chat

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:33:00 PM EDT 2003
we wanted a Cosmos but were told not in Canada yet

krazy4u20042003 i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:33:14 PM EDT 2003
hey

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:33:32 PM EDT 2003
yes, once I came out of warranty, the company and md wrote a new letter of medical necessity and we got it

krazy4u20042003 i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:33:38 PM EDT 2003
hi carrie

krazy4u20042003 i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:34:07 PM EDT 2003
hey karine  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:34:12 PM EDT 2003
we were told no freebies here...one time 100% coverage

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:34:20 PM EDT 2003
Hi

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:35:10 PM EDT 2003
Karen I ask this because I am thinking of upgrading to new Paradime (not spelled right)

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:35:12 PM EDT 2003
No Cosmo isn't in Canada yet. Animas has the low basal rate like cosmo...you can go as low as .05 units per hour or adjust by .05 increments with the basal...that's why I chose it and at the time it was the only waterproof one.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:35:17 PM EDT 2003
hi can we talk about diabetes

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:35:53 PM EDT 2003
hey linda

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:36:14 PM EDT 2003
Carrie are you saying you got it free????

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:36:55 PM EDT 2003
Wow Carrie...you had 100% coverage....I had to buy Andrew's pump.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:36:59 PM EDT 2003
hey sues you have type 1

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:37:06 PM EDT 2003
Hi Kendra

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:37:26 PM EDT 2003
my md didn't like the paradime?  because the infusion sets are not the ones he likes, and the resevoir holds less insulin. Not free the insurance co, paid, (i didn't have any co-pay)

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:37:32 PM EDT 2003
secondary insurance covered it (DH's health plan)...plus we are getting all of the consumables covered too...we were really lucky

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:37:35 PM EDT 2003
do any one have an pump

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:38:17 PM EDT 2003
Kendra, do you use an insulin pump?

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:38:19 PM EDT 2003
linda how old is he now

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:38:48 PM EDT 2003
yes i do but i do take shots too  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:39:05 PM EDT 2003
Carrie: I'll say, I had to pay for everything  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:39:53 PM EDT 2003
Wow...I guess we are really lucky...diabetes sure is expensive!!!

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:39:53 PM EDT 2003
Andrew is 11...how old are you Kendra? Is your mother's name Chris? Are you in Red Deer?

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:39:59 PM EDT 2003
sues dont you get some stuff free

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:40:22 PM EDT 2003
not a DARN thing!!!  

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:40:46 PM EDT 2003
Sue...that stinks!!

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:40:50 PM EDT 2003
im 19 and no my mom name is kendra

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:41:09 PM EDT 2003
the pump costs me about $200 a month

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:41:25 PM EDT 2003
Doesn't OHIP cover your insulin and test strips?

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:41:27 PM EDT 2003
so you pay for everything sues so is it hard for you

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:41:38 PM EDT 2003
yikes!!!...I worry about when Beth is no longer covered by our plan...I keep telling her study more or marry well...LOL

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:41:57 PM EDT 2003
has any one tried the glucowatch?

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:42:16 PM EDT 2003
no mine is iehp   

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:42:18 PM EDT 2003
LOL Carrie

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:42:42 PM EDT 2003
karen i want one

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:42:43 PM EDT 2003
never tried it...have you?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:42:47 PM EDT 2003
from what I hear the prices of pumps and supplies are going UP not down  

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:43:34 PM EDT 2003
i really want one too, my son gets frequent lows especially at night

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:43:35 PM EDT 2003
Karen, never tried the glucowatch but some people who have come to chat have and haven't really been impressed by it.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:43:44 PM EDT 2003
They look neat

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:44:05 PM EDT 2003
how do you know because it is 1,ooo

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:44:12 PM EDT 2003
Linda I've heard the same thing

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:44:13 PM EDT 2003
Sue...like everything else.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:44:25 PM EDT 2003
i looked at the price today

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:45:03 PM EDT 2003
Linda, has your son ever tried testing with an alternate site?

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:45:04 PM EDT 2003
Welll...I really got to go this time...bye all...see ya in parents chat sometime

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:45:17 PM EDT 2003
Kendra: the price of what?

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:45:25 PM EDT 2003
okay carrie

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:45:43 PM EDT 2003
BYE CARRIE  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:45:52 PM EDT 2003
the watch

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:46:01 PM EDT 2003
Karen, no he hasn't...not to say that I haven't tried to persuade him to.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:46:13 PM EDT 2003
Take Care Carrie...nice meeting you!  

Carrie Mom of Beth, 10, dx's 9, pumping 3 weeks  (216.208.52.151) Thu Jun 26 10:46:24 PM EDT 2003
Bye Sue  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:46:39 PM EDT 2003
Kendra: how long have you had Diabetes?

karen mom of joe  (68.193.206.144) Thu Jun 26 10:47:03 PM EDT 2003
I had the same response.....no way  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:47:05 PM EDT 2003
well im out everyone

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:47:13 PM EDT 2003
glad to meet a fellow Canadian Carrie   

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:47:35 PM EDT 2003
since i was 8

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:47:53 PM EDT 2003
He uses all of his fingers though and also rotates around on the tips too, so....

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:48:00 PM EDT 2003
I got it when I was 12

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:48:31 PM EDT 2003
how old are you

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:48:43 PM EDT 2003
bye Kendra

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:49:01 PM EDT 2003
how old are you?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:49:23 PM EDT 2003
early 30's

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:49:31 PM EDT 2003
18
  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:50:08 PM EDT 2003
thats OK we still have lots in common  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:50:26 PM EDT 2003
well here is my email kstock1@msn.com an you can email me sometimes

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:50:38 PM EDT 2003
i know we do

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:50:56 PM EDT 2003
do you have one

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:50:56 PM EDT 2003
Kendra...do you remember...was the adjustment hard for you?....being diagnosed?

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:51:18 PM EDT 2003
Sue...same question to you.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:51:26 PM EDT 2003
                          

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:52:06 PM EDT 2003
I remember being very scared

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:52:13 PM EDT 2003
yes very hard and it still is a little

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:52:28 PM EDT 2003
I agree

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:53:12 PM EDT 2003
We're you both very sick at diagnosis?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:53:15 PM EDT 2003
I felt it was unfair I was the only kid in my school who had it  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:53:17 PM EDT 2003
i agree to you too

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:54:02 PM EDT 2003
I couln't stop drinking I went down to 52lbs

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:54:06 PM EDT 2003
yes i almost died
and i was the only kid in my school

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:54:06 PM EDT 2003
I can see how it continues to be hard....so many people who are ignorant to type 1  

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:54:39 PM EDT 2003
  very sorry to hear that Kendra...glad you are here with us  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:54:47 PM EDT 2003
was real tired thin and thirsty

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:54:53 PM EDT 2003
  Sue

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:55:18 PM EDT 2003
Linda THAT IS SO TRUE  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:55:19 PM EDT 2003
not me i could not hear and talk

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:55:45 PM EDT 2003
Andrew had just gotten over the coxsackie virus and was healthy for about a week. Then he came home one day and said he was thirsty a lot and drank a lot and went to the bathroom a lot.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:56:04 PM EDT 2003
I get so mad people tell me type 1&2 are the same  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:56:17 PM EDT 2003
im the only one in my whole family with it

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:56:46 PM EDT 2003
This happened for a few days, then he soaked the bed..not once but twice in a few hours. I knew something was wrong.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:56:52 PM EDT 2003
was his number hi

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:56:59 PM EDT 2003
Sue...so do I  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:57:06 PM EDT 2003
there not

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:57:18 PM EDT 2003
Not too bad...16 something.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:57:24 PM EDT 2003
I am too Kendra it is a mystery that sounds real scary what you went thorugh

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:58:10 PM EDT 2003
The only other person that had type 1 in Andrew's family history was my grandmother's brother.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:58:44 PM EDT 2003
I remember having to pee alot drink and pee drink and pee

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 10:59:05 PM EDT 2003
I want to slap people sometimes...it is so frustrating. A teacher at Andrew's school told him that if he takes care of himself, it will go away  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 10:59:41 PM EDT 2003
LINDA OH MY GOD !!!!!!

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 10:59:44 PM EDT 2003
linda can never go away

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:00:26 PM EDT 2003
and that woman calls herself a teacher?! SCARY

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:00:42 PM EDT 2003
and type 2 is for old people

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:01:07 PM EDT 2003
Even a relative said to me....oh, a lot of people have diabetes. I said yeah, but not type 1...I have told this relative on several occasions that there are different types...so frustrating.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:01:56 PM EDT 2003
Kendra....or people who are overweight with an unhealthy lifestyle too.....a lot of kids are getting type 2 now.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:02:22 PM EDT 2003
i know

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:02:36 PM EDT 2003
Linda I have never hear fo this Coxsackie virus ? did they say it caused the diabetes?

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:02:50 PM EDT 2003
or have you heard this one...."so you have to take a shot every now and then, eh?"  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:03:29 PM EDT 2003
know you dont get it because your over weight its because there old

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:03:38 PM EDT 2003
Linda my mother in law is the same thinks type 1&2 are the same   

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:04:03 PM EDT 2003
every now and then I WISH

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:04:18 PM EDT 2003
well i have toy go

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:04:23 PM EDT 2003
Sue...it's the hand, foot and mouth disease....there is a strong link between it and type 1. There are similarities in the structures of the cells. The body gets confused by this and once it has finished killing off the virus, it starts to attack the beta cells.

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:04:49 PM EDT 2003
          

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:05:07 PM EDT 2003
Linda    not fair

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:05:13 PM EDT 2003
i have to go

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:05:37 PM EDT 2003
bye Kendra do you live in USA?

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:05:46 PM EDT 2003
Chow Kendra....Take Care  

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:06:09 PM EDT 2003
yes and peace

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:06:38 PM EDT 2003
Sue, but from the information that is out there...if that didn't trigger it (type 1), something else would have.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:06:40 PM EDT 2003
what state are you in?

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:07:03 PM EDT 2003
well this is my email name kstock1@msn.com

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:07:13 PM EDT 2003
sad but true , so true

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:07:24 PM EDT 2003
california

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:08:01 PM EDT 2003
and you

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:08:06 PM EDT 2003
nice to meet you

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:08:20 PM EDT 2003
Ontario Canada

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:08:42 PM EDT 2003
Linda you still there?

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:08:54 PM EDT 2003
Sue...do you remember the song "A place to stand, a place to grow, Ontari, ari, ario....."

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:09:14 PM EDT 2003
oh okay

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:09:35 PM EDT 2003
i think so, its a little foggy

kendra i have type 1 diabetes  (4.61.160.69) Thu Jun 26 11:09:37 PM EDT 2003
well bye

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:10:03 PM EDT 2003
I don't know why they don't sing that in the schools anymore   I really liked that song.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:10:11 PM EDT 2003
bye Kendra

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:10:37 PM EDT 2003
I remember as a kid singing it in school and commercials too, I think.

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:10:48 PM EDT 2003
Bye Kendra

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:11:03 PM EDT 2003
I remember it from commercials

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:11:29 PM EDT 2003
I'll be back a little later....I think there are people in the Parent's room.

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:11:57 PM EDT 2003
are Andrews numbers better since the pump?

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:12:07 PM EDT 2003
I'll go too

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:12:41 PM EDT 2003
Definitely....better A1C's. Went from mid to high 8's to mid 6's

Linda Mom of Andrew, 11, dxd at 8, pumping  (24.76.53.46) Thu Jun 26 11:13:05 PM EDT 2003
Talk to you later....Take Care  

SueS Type 1  (216.221.81.98) Thu Jun 26 11:14:48 PM EDT 2003
wow thats good It was nice meeting a fellow Canadian  

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