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Type 1 Support from August 8, 2001

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Wed Aug 8 2001 20:46:37 Eastern US
Kristin from 205.188.193.26
hello

Wed Aug 8 2001 20:52:56 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - now pumping!) from 216.170.20.104
hello

Wed Aug 8 2001 20:59:00 Eastern US
kristin from 64.12.107.151
hi

Wed Aug 8 2001 20:59:29 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
ah, a person, thought I was going to be a loser!

Wed Aug 8 2001 20:59:48 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Hello Toninette & Kristin.. welcome to the chat tonight

Wed Aug 8 2001 20:59:53 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
hi

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:00:18 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Toninette how's pumping?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:00:55 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Hi Ellen... glad you made it

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:00:58 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
I'm really tired, can't stay long. Been pumping for 1 week and 2 days. Still trying to get his numbers "normal"
ha

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:01:00 Eastern US
BettyB (Support Chat Moderator) from 152.163.204.213
Hi Guys -- welcome to the chat -- good to "see" yu again Ellen

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:01:35 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
I love the pump! His numbers were perfect the first few days - but now that we are back home and into our bizzare schedule they are all over

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:01:56 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
But that's ok, it will even out when preschool starts and we are back on a schedule.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:03:22 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Toninette, it's awful hard to get normal blood sugars when you're giving insulin from the outside of the body. Getting "close to target" most of the time is really a success to be celebrated in the crazy life we all live.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:03:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Toninette, glad to hear that attidue -- but when yu all get to be whizzes, one of the big benefits of the pump is being able to be a little smoother, even when things are hectic

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:03:58 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Hi Betty B - always a pleasure to see you and Kris.

Toninette are you in Jax? It's really important to keep good log information and fax frequently to the ped endo for changes.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:04:09 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Joshua and I will go to preschool on the 13th and give the teachers a bit of training on how the pump works - they won't be doing anything with it - but would like to know how it works.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:05:18 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Jax? We keep a log book that borders on anal-retentivness (sp). I talk to our pump nurse every day...and will for the next 2 weeks or so - then will back off to every 2 days. ha

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:05:31 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
That's great that you will show them at school I bet that Joshua will run across teachers that wear pumps as he get into larger schools.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:05:46 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Hi.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:06:00 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Jacksonville. Must have you confused with someone else sorry.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:06:49 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Welcome, Pam. Ellen, enlighten me. What's Jax?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:06:53 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Toninette - how is Joshua doing with the site changes? Does he mind the needle staying in?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:06:55 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Hi Pam, welcome to the group.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:06:57 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
At the grade school he will attend (hopefully, we will be moving next spring so I don't know for sure) anyways, the principal is diabetic (type I) and so are a couple of the teachers. One just started on the pump also.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:07:24 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Ellen, my daugher is in Jacksonville on business this week... said it's sunny and all I thought you had was rain!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:07:26 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
He doesn't mind the infusion set - he touches it and tells us it doesn't hurt.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:07:47 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
He still squirms when we double team him to get it in - but he did that with the shots too.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:09:15 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Kris, you are obviously too young to have a daughter away on business.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:09:18 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
When we got home from our pump start (we go to Kansas City, live in Lincoln NE) Joshua couldn't wait to drop his pants and show Grandma and Grandpa his site. Sort of cute!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:10:09 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
We were told at our last appointment to be thinking about the pump. Waiting to see if his A1C comes down now that he's on ultralente. Would love to get out of the "fair control" range.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:10:23 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Ellen, I love you. Had my 50th last week and a 2nd grandchild on the way.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:10:50 Eastern US
Deb (Mom of Drake, 5 ,dx 7/01) from 24.166.200.90
Hi! This is all new to me so I thought I would sit in and see what all of you "experienced" Moms have to say.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:11:08 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Ellen, she's even one of those new young grandmas!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:11:28 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Hello Deb, welcome to our little world!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:11:28 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Pam, have you discussed the possibility of replacing the Ultra Lente with the new once a day insulin, Glargine? It seems to be much easier to avoid the ups and downs of the other long acting insulins and then use Humalog at meals.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:11:40 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Hi, Deb. Welcome to the chat.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:12:03 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
"Fair control" is hard to swallow when you consider all the work that goes into such a meager result!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:13:14 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Yes. Before going to the pump I would want to try the Lantus and see if we get better control.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:13:21 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Pam - what do John's numbers range ?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:13:37 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Hi Deb.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:13:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
I know what yu're saying, Pam. It's a lot of work and worry and the results are far from perfect, when it comes to blood sugars. Just keep in mind that NOBODY gets perfect control with the tools we have -- none of them work as well as a functioning pancreas.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:14:00 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Where are all from? Hot humid sticky Nebraska here.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:14:02 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Pam, I think it's important for all people using insulin to know how undependable it really is! Once dose of Regular, Nph or UL could vary in action by 47% or more, any given dose, any given day. That's why it's exciting to have new insulins such as Glargine for long acting and Humalog and Novolog coming that take that fluctuation problem out of the picture.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:15:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Kris and I are in Arizona, Pam.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:15:22 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
I like using Humalog only - we don't worry about lows as much as we did when we did shots with Ultralente too.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:15:26 Eastern US
Michelle(RI) (mom of Adam 7,dx'd 2/00 pumping 8/00) from 24.18.142.149
Hi everybody

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:15:47 Eastern US
Tammy (Mommy to Shannon, 3 1/2, dx'd 2/99, pumping 3/01) from 64.12.104.174
Hi all

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:15:52 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
I moved from Omaha where I grew up so my sympathies for the heat and humidity, Toninette.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:15:54 Eastern US
Michelle(RI) (mom of Adam 7,dx'd 2/00 pumping 8/00) from 24.18.142.149
we only use humalog too for my son and myself

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:16:32 Eastern US
Michelle(RI) (mom of Adam 7,dx'd 2/00 pumping 8/00) from 24.18.142.149
they said over 100 degrees tomorrow here. Thank goodness for AC

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:16:43 Eastern US
gary (, Type-1...(visit the 'Diabetes Poetry Room' at) geocities.com/gmhco) from 63.25.234.29
good evening everyone....I'm just here to observe:-)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:16:49 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Toninette, what do you give Joshua for long acting coverage?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:16:51 Eastern US
Deb (Mom of Drake, 5 ,dx 7/01) from 24.166.200.90
we're from hot and sticky Ohio.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:13 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Hi everyone, my problem is lows. At the moment my daughter gets 6units of NPH for the entire day, and I was wondering should I still try her on the pump.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:16 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
It is day 11 of temps in the upper 90's and heat index 115. Egads! Cool on Friday - low 80's!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Hi, TAmmi and Michelle - welcome

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:21 Eastern US
Tammy (Mommy to Shannon, 3 1/2, dx'd 2/99, pumping 3/01) from 64.12.104.174
from New Jersey here

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:36 Eastern US
Tammy (Mommy to Shannon, 3 1/2, dx'd 2/99, pumping 3/01) from 64.12.104.174
Hi BettyB

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:51 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Kris - no long acting insulin here!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:17:56 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Her sugars are rarely above 100.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:18:16 Eastern US
Michelle(RI) (mom of Adam 7,dx'd 2/00 pumping 8/00) from 24.18.142.149
gena I love the pump compared to shots, so does my son. Much more freedom

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:18:21 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Gena - how is NPH split up? Or is it?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:18:43 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Hot, humid (and cranky) here in Indiana.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:18:52 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
For those of you who just said you use only Humalog(not pumping but injections) and no long acting, tell me how is it going through the night? Any highs in the morning or during the day at all?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:18:56 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
sounds like honeymoon, Gena. Fine tuning insulin when the pancreas is still kicking in some everyone once in a while is quite a challenge! Is there a pattern to the time of day she has the lows?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:19:12 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Gena is she having a lot of lows?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:19:15 Eastern US
Tammy (Mommy to Shannon, 3 1/2, dx'd 2/99, pumping 3/01) from 64.12.104.174
we only use humalog, but prior to the pump we used NPH, R, H and lente

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:19:21 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Rarely over 100 - how do you do it? Wow! I'm impressed!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:19:35 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
Hi - Hot & dry in Austin, TX

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:00 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
I have a quick question.If I just gave my daughter three shots a day of regular before meals and no nph until bedtime,would she still have to take all her snacks.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:03 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Hi, Mark. Welcome - jump right o in.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:04 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
So all of you using only Humalog are using the pump.. well if my old eyes could scan the screen I would have seen pumping... sorry for confusion.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:23 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
I'm still a little new to this.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:28 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Hi...
Nothing over 100 doesn't sound too good, actually, esp at that age

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:41 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Hi Mark, love Austin. wonderful town.. hot and dry like phoenix too.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:42 Eastern US
Michelle(RI) (mom of Adam 7,dx'd 2/00 pumping 8/00) from 24.18.142.149
Ellen are you bouncing in between rooms like I am?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:20:45 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Kris - not a problem.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:21:43 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Sarah - depends on peak time of the insulin

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:21:44 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
The lows are mainly after play, but she's very active. Wake up sugar is between 80-99, and the rest of the day I have to constantly give her snacks.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:21:51 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Sarah, the first answer out of my head is YES. REgular insulin lasts several hours and would probalby require snacks to avoid lows. How about the option of Humalog for meals and for large snacks?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:21:54 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
I'm really tired of all her lows.I try everything and she's not on much insulin at all.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:22:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Hi, Judith! Good to see you.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:22:37 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Gena, have you talked with your doc about reducing the N even more? Does she take it twice a day? Perhaps she could get by now with it only at night....

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:22:46 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
I plan to talk to her Ped Endo about humalog on her next appointment.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:03 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Sarah, you might find that an insulin pump with very, very tiny doses of Humalog would help avoid those swings.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:13 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Hey Betty. You still planning to be in Louisville next week?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:20 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
hi, everyone, i think my son is coming out of his honeymoon, should i be even more worried?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:27 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Yes aren't we all bouncing between rooms? LOL

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:43 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Hi Mary. We advocate LESS worry, not more!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:44 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
No Mary, just keep taking one day at a time.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:52 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
If you are only using N - I would think most of
your day is not covered with insulin - It only
lasts 8-12 hours

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:23:57 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Well, Judith she only gets N in the morning.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:24:36 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Yes, Judith, I'll be there for the whole blinkin' meeting. You?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:24:51 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
Hey Mark.Im from San Antonio.I know what you mean about HOT!!!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:25:11 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Gena, maybe she would do better with a split dose. Might want to ask your doc.....

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:25:45 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
I'm fading fast here - must go to bed. Getting up at all hours checking Joshua since we have been pumping is wiping me out! Makes me grouchy and ugly! Need a vaca in the Bahamas - anyone want to come?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:25:45 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Hope to be, Betty. I'll commute; only half an hour to downtown from my house. Son and babies (2yrs, 2.5 months) may be here.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:02 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
how can you tell when they come out of the honeymoon?how long can that take? and then what happens?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:12 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
I just got in from getting sprayed from fixing a broken sprinkler head

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:32 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Hi

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:44 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
I am really anticipating coming out of the honeymoon phase, because I still get excited in thinking that it will go away.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:46 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
Right now she only takes one unit of R and 5 of Nph in the morn and then one r and half a unit of nph in the evening before dinner.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:46 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Mark - sounds refreshing!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:26:54 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Sounds refreshing, Mark

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:27:20 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Hi Beth

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:27:32 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Beth - looks like you and I are in the same boat pretty much. Pumping not very long! Hows it going for you?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:27:49 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
No Bahamas for me after seeing that guy get bitten by a shark.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:27:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
ohh, hard to pass up grandbabies for a diabetes meeting, Judith. I'll be staying at the Seelbach - if you make it, give me a call.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:27:59 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
My brother is also IDDM for over 10 years and still produces insulin off and on. It has been difficult for him. I am trying to talk him into
using the pump. He doesn't have decent insurance though.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:04 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Toninette, swing by Georgia and get me, I want to go.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:10 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
mary, unfortunately there aren't any firm answers to your question. The honeymoon can last from days to months, and occasionally even longer.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:23 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
gena, that exactly my thoughts, maybe my miracle can still happen.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:29 Eastern US
Sarah(Tx) (mom of Destiny,3,dx'd 3 months ago) from 64.111.184.182
but she still has highs alot before dinner and then lows any time she plays outside or does anything at all.I try to give her snacks.I've been giving her a protein before playing .Should I give her carbs instead?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:42 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Hi, Toninette - we are doing fine - can totally relate to the lack of sleep! We had trouble getting sites to stay in his tummy, but have moved to his rear and that's much better.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:43 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Ok, Bahamas, but not in the water - just sitting on the beach with my drink with the umbrella in it - how does that sound?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:28:46 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Will do, Betty. I'll bring "Sweet Kids" for an autograph :-)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:29:29 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
I'm honored, Judith. It will be great to finally put face and name together! Like we did with Ellen in Orlando

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:29:44 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Beth - we haven't even considered using his tummy - his tushy is working just fine.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:29:54 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
We also had trial and error to find something that sticks in the swimming pool - Mastisol to the resuce! Toninette, are you doing meal skips to test the basal rates? That's tricky with an active little boy!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:29:59 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Mary, it can end gradually or suddenly. The way you'll know is that more insulin will be needed. In some ways, things are a bit easier after it ends...no variable of insulin SOMETIMES being produced by the body.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:30:37 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
We changed our carb to insulin ratio from 1 unit to 20 grams to 1 unit to 12 grams. Joshua is pretty sensitive with his food.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:31:11 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Beth - no meal skips here - just keeping on our old eating schedule and working it out from there.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:31:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Sarah, the lows, as yu porbably know, happen when there is too much insulin around for whatever's happening t the time. It's best to get the insulin adjusted better, but that's tough to do during honeymoon when things can still be so variable. Carb is better for covering extra insulin and exercise than protein -- put a little fat with the protein and it'll last a bit longer.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:31:39 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Toninette, it's often seen that different carb to insulin ratios are necessary for different times of day.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:31:43 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
Protein doesn't do much for BG calories - except beans. It depends on how active her playing is and how much carbs affect her BG

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:32:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
sorry!! put a little fat with the CARB, and it will last longer. Protein actually has very little effect on blood sugar - espcially int he amounts kids eat.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:32:21 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
should or could we consider the pump while he might still be in the honeymoon?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:32:39 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
We have had no problem with his site staying in when we swim. Kris - we might end up having a few different ratios - this is a fun game we are playing!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:32:45 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Toninette - we have 1:16 for breakfast and 1:30 the rest of the day. Our dr. is kind of insisting on the meal skips - that has been the biggest stress so far. :( And the couple of episodes of ketones when our tummy sets were kinking.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:33:07 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
The endo will probably be the best judge of when to go on the pump.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:33:22 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
That's an excellent attitude, Toninette!! Treat it like a game of numbers and the challenge can be more interesting for everybody.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:34:21 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Very hard to get a 4y/o to fast.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:34:39 Eastern US
mark (IDDM 42yrs ) from 24.27.60.57
Bye - My daughter wants (needs) the internet.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:34:40 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Beth - thanks for the info - I'll bring that up to our pump nurse when I chat with her tomorrow afternoon. Kris - I need that attitude - my dh is a paramedic and on duty 24 hours every other day so I am doing this "alone" every other day.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:34:48 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Which gives a child more freedom,shots or a pump?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:35:11 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Beth, can you give Ian some protein if he's really hungry between meals? I sometimes give my son eggs when he's doing fasting basal checks

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:35:13 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
I have to say that in all my years of helping people get pumps, we never had people fast and they seemed to do fine. This new fad can be helpful but is not the only way to work out basal rates.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:35:22 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
I'll have to go see my old Algebra/Geometry teacher and show him my math skills now! ha!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:35:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
well, that overnight fast is doable and that's a BIG part of the battle, getting the basal right at night.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:35:45 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
Gena - PUMP! My opinion only!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:36:11 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Gena, for anyone needing insulin, the pump will always be the most efficient and flexible way to deliver it. Small amounts round the clock, different amounts whenever food is eaten.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:36:29 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
How else can we get the basal rate figured out? It makes sense to fast, but yes, getting a 4 year old to do that is so hard!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:00 Eastern US
Toninette (mom to Joshua (4) dx'd 18 m - pumping July 2001) from 216.170.20.104
I must go get some beauty sleep - 2 or 3 days worth should do it! ha! Thanks for the info and chat!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:18 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
LOL Toninette. Night....

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:23 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Also a cheese stick may hold him over for a while too.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:27 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
hows the pump for very athletic boys who love contact even in non-contact sports?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:31 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
LOL, Toninette - I'm so glad I paid attention on the ratio chapters in math class! :)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:34 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Bye Toninette

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:37:39 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Gena, the pump gives more freedom because we can come so much closer tot he way the body would give insulin if there were no diabetes. Not perfect, but much better than having to be on a set schedule as you must be with injections.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:38:34 Eastern US
Lil (Mom of Ellie, 6, dxd at 5) from 66.44.20.117
Want to ask group... My endo says no kids on pumps before age 10 due to risk of severe hypoglycemia. I told hi I thought it would be better to develop a substantivce skills test than have a bright line cut off. What has been your experience?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:38:45 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Mary, my son's idea of exercise is moving his thumbs on the controllers of the video games. Wish I had the problem of sports to deal with!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:39:04 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Mary, Ian is as active as they come. His whole life is one big contact sport. Having his site on his rear is fine. It hasn't come out at all.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:39:05 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Mary, that's my son Dave! He's had his pump (Minimed) hit the ground in some rough pickup basketball games. He takes it off for track (hurdles, high jump, pole vault)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:39:14 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Beth, the first step is to compare numbers day to day, foods to foods. As Betty said, through the night is like a fast... check at bedtime, midnight, 3 AM and morning. Several days in a row will show you patterns and then you can address what's needed. Then for during the day, you can look at the before meal blood sugar as feedback on the basal if the 2 hr after meal is in target range. Again, looking at patterns for a few days to see what's working.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:39:52 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Lil, my son's doctor offered us the pump when we first met her when he was 7 years old. She has 450 pediatric pump patients. I wish I started even earlier. I found the NPH/R combo a nightmare for my son compared to pumping (which has its own set of frustrations).

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:40:17 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Are the pumps water resistant?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:40:39 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
so ellen, do you think a boy can still run and play and crash into other boys with the pump on and not hurt himself?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:40:42 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Lil, many endos don't have experience with pumps or pumps in young kids so they say NO. That's really no excuse and I suggest you ask other parents for recommendations for endos that know more about pumping in youngsters.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:40:45 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Lil, each family/child is different. But there ARE special considerations re: pumping. Actually, risk of lows is less, but risk of DKA is higher, according to the studies.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:40:46 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Kris, does this mean eating pretty much the same thing for testing days?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:41:22 Eastern US
Lil (Mom of Ellie, 6, dxd at 5) from 66.44.20.117
Ellen, Did you find that Zachary could manage the pump well at age 7?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:41:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Beth, with adults - who don't want or need to eat as often as four year olds, you can get the basals set very well by doing it in segments - meal to meal. In little ones that eat so frequently it's alittle more confusing -- I like the suggestion someone made earlier of making the snacks out of things with minimal carb -- meat, cheese, celery sticks, nuts -- those things shouldn't raise the blood sugar -- so you get a better idea of what the basal's doing, but without starting world way III.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:41:48 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.37
Hi everyone

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:41:54 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Lil, I have an email full of links if you'd like to learn more about the pump and kids . Write to me at CamelsRFun@aol.com. My son's been on the pump for 6 years and has never had an incident of DKA, although he's had some very high highs.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:41:56 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Pumps are waterresistant and many are also advertising water proof now. It's really wonderful what's happening in their ongoing improvements.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:42:35 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Judith-what is DKA?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:42:36 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Hi Beth

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:42:49 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
DKA - diabetic ketoacidosis

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:42:49 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
that is so wonderful to hear that you have sons that are equally active and they are ok with the pump. i think it would be good to use while still in the honeymoon so that maybe it will never be full blown. hows that concept?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:43:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Hi, Beth - how's it going?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:43:18 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Yes he managed it well with supervision. You have to know your child and what your child can and cannot handle. I started him on the pump in the beginning of the summer so I could be with him for a long enough time to know what he could manage.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:43:30 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Betty, I tried to suggest that, but dr. really insists on zilch. We are working through it, and the night is easy to test. With such a young child, we also have quite a few different patterns during the day. BUT - it is so worth the work so far. :)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:43:33 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Beth, what betty added about snacks is very helpful and taking a few days of consistant food would make it all easier to see how it's working. You could also see about using the continuoius sensor if your doc has one.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:43:33 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
When there is no insulin to move sugar into the cells, fat is burned for energy. That produces ketones - poisonous waste products, which can lead to an acidic condition of the blood.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:43:42 Eastern US
Lil (Mom of Ellie, 6, dxd at 5) from 66.44.20.117
Don't have first hand experience but I heard at diabetes camp that minimed is more water resistant than animas.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:44:02 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 206.72.22.37
not too bad Betty, Rea just finished a 700 mile bike trip with Judith's Dave and 32 other teens with D

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:44:21 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Mary, while tight control early may extend the honeymoon, I think that the diabetes will progress out of the honeymoon regardless.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:44:22 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
Hello. Just found out son who is almost three is also diabetic, where to begin?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:10 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Animas is supposed to be fully waterproof. Lisa from LA had her son snorkeling for many hours in the Florida Keys wearing his Animas pump the whole time. Not so with the MiniMed.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:35 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Ellen, the new model from Minimed will be. Coming out after the first of the year.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:37 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
So sorry, Tammy.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:40 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Hello

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Beth, sounds like you're doing great. It's good to see you're still hanging in there for what your son needs - age and hunger wise. I'ts so important not to forget the kid by concentrating too hard on the diabetes.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:53 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Disetronic HTrons are no longer considered waterproof.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:45:55 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Anyone buying a minimed 508 now will be automatically upgraded to the new one when it's available.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:46:54 Eastern US
Judith (David, 15; dx'd at age 2 months) from 63.162.254.121
Don't you wonder WHY Minimed is doing that??? WIll cost them BIG $$$$$$. They must be going to make huge profits on supplies for the new one!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:46:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Gosh, Tammy. so sorry to hear it. You've come to a great place to begin. Lots of parents here who have been exactly where yu are now.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:47:08 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Kris, the Paradigm doesn't hold enough insulin for Zachary and I wonder if MiniMed will really have U200 Humalog like they claimed.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:47:29 Eastern US
Gena (Mom of Beth,7,dx'd 3/01) from 64.12.103.159
Thanks, you all were really friendly and helpful. Goodnight.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:47:51 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Betty, Tammy also mentioned in Parents that her little one is quite a picky eater. I told her you could help her avoid food battles with some suggestions.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:47:56 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Tammy, you must feel overwhelmed. This is a big fear for all of us, that our other kids could also have diabetes.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:47:59 Eastern US
mary (mom, of max, 11,dx'd at 10) from 64.12.104.174
doesn't that stink we really need to put an end to this disease. i will be saying a very powerful prayer for all of our children tonight. in about 5 mins. alone in my head if any one else would care to do the same, maybe a miracle will happen, good night to you all and thank you, god bless

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:48:03 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
What if you don't want the new minimed one!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:48:03 Eastern US
Lil (Mom of Ellie, 6, dxd at 5) from 66.44.20.117
Tammy- I am so sorry. How is your son taking the news?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:48:32 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
We see the specialist on Monday but I'm just wondering how you balance insulin with such unpredictable eating patterns. With my a daughter at least you could somewhat reason?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:48:50 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
Night, Gena. See you another time.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:48:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Actually Judith, I think part of the reason they're doing it is that they made a lot of people mad the last time they came out with a new pump. Folks who bought the old one just before the new one came out and had no upgrade option were royally _issed! I think this is at least a way to keep the sales of the 508 going strong until the new one comes out.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:49:06 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Ellen, good question. I think they have alot of a508's on the shelf and don't want people waiting or buying a competators pump... marketing always rules for these companies.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:49:18 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
Night, Mary

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:49:42 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Connie, I've wondered the same thing. I haven't sent anything in for that reason.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:49:55 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Paradigm is going to have some proprietary infusion sets too right?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:50:06 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
My son was excited when I told him he had diabetes like his sister, until about 4 blood sugar tests later then he stated He hates diabetes it hurts,,, breaks my heart but I think he will adjust eventually

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:50:19 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
So We'll still be able to buy the 508?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:50:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Thanks Mary -- night

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:50:27 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
I've heard that Pardigm will only use MM sets, and that cartridge and set will have to be changed at the same time. If they are also selling the insulin cartridges, they are in the cat bird's seat!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:51:14 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Oh Tammy, I was wondering how that went, so it is true?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:51:38 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Connie, I'm not sure about that. I'll check it out with the rep.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:51:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Thanks, Ellen. TAmmy, how old is the picky eater you're worrying about?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:52:09 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Know anything about the Debiotech from Switzerland if that's ever going to come to market in the US?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:52:21 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
the reps have been stone silent on the new Paradym. Don't wnat to stop sales of the 508 I guess

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:52:21 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
Tammy, how did you recognize the d. in your son? Just a routine check, or standard symptoms?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:52:33 Eastern US
Lil (Mom of Ellie, 6, dxd at 5) from 66.44.20.117
My daughter Ellie is one of those children that is still hungry after her alloted carbs- especially for afternoon snack. Any ideas for "freebies" that kids like aside from carrots and dip and string cheese...

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:52:58 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
We don't even have a decent rep now on the west coast of Canada, Brent has dissappeared, and he never was good at getting info to us anyhow!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:52:58 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Tammy, my little guy was diagnosed 3 months before turning 3. There wasn't much reasoning at the dinner table, for sure, but it did get easier. After the all time low of Oreos at breakfast, just to get the carbs in, it was all better after that. :)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:53:30 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Lil, my son was unusual but he ate every kind of veggies -

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:54:00 Eastern US
Jane (Kara,6,dx'd 2/01) from 63.29.119.159
Lil, 2 pixie stix are free. They have 2 gms of carbs a piece. It won't fill her up but it may be a cool treat.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:54:08 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
I was still in denial today because his blood sugar levels were 5.6 to 7.8 but he never ate anything today. He is not feeling too well and after drinking a juicebox he went to 17.4 (306) They are testing A1C but don't have the results. Jordan will be three in a month and a half

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:55:01 Eastern US
Pam (John, 4, dx'd at 14 mos.) from 63.61.155.178
LOL Beth. We've resorted to chocolate pudding for breakfast!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:55:06 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Lil, anything that's mostly protein-- meat, chicken, fish, lunch meat, cottage cheese; vegetables of all kids (celery sticks are a standby and a lot of kids can slather peanut butter on them withut seeing a BG spike); and anything with no calories -- sugar free jello is about the only thing that comes to mind that kids are intersted in.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:55:20 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Tammy, I'm so sorry, but at least you caught it before DKA!

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:55:57 Eastern US
Jane (Kara,6,dx'd 2/01) from 63.29.119.159
Lil, sugar free jello. Get the molds that jello sells and make mini jigglers. Kara loves them

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:56:12 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd @15 months.) from 152.163.194.206
Boiled peanuts if you are in the south?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:56:16 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Pam, there's calcium in that - that's good! :)

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:57:03 Eastern US
Jane (Kara,6,dx'd 2/01) from 63.29.119.159
Kara also sits and will eat a tablespoon of peanut butter on her finger. It fills her up and doesn't so anything to her blood sugar

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:57:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Tammy, was Jordan a pretty willing eater before the diabetes? Do you think his pickiness is due to not feeling good or is he just that way at this point?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:57:09 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
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Wed Aug 8 2001 21:57:38 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
My son was having some wicked mood swings, and I know with my daughter that is a sure sign of a real high or low sugar, so I tested and it was high, so I tested for the next day and he was above 11 and higher. Went to the doctor and they said it was very likely he is in the early stages, monitor for a few days and see the specialist on Monday.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:57:49 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Well, everyone, in our last few minutes any questions that have gone unanswered tonight?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:57:53 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
Jane, need to be careful with straight peanut butter. It's a choking hazard.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:58:11 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
They're making you wait Tammy?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:58:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
For all who are talking about having to push carbs into kids, I hope you have learned or will learn how to adjust meal insulin for carbs and get the option of giving insulin at the END of the meal so you don't have to eihter worry yourselves to death or bribe kid to eat.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:59:03 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
I have a carb question - does anyone have a good estimate of restaurant french fries like they serve at Friday's or Chili's?

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:59:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Most are about 2 carbs in a cup full, Beth.

Wed Aug 8 2001 21:59:53 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Betty?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:00:14 Eastern US
Lil (Mom of Ellie, 6, dxd at 5) from 66.44.20.117
In addition to talking to other parents, is there any other way to find out about top nothch pediatric endos in my area?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:00:32 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
No, Jordan's eating habits have always been some days eats minimal sometimes surprises us and eats a whole meal. The specialist is two hours away and talked over the phone about what to do, but I am concerned about the 17.4 tonight. The specialist thought because he was in the early stages we may be able to control with diet for a few months but now after the last reading I'm not sure

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:03 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Do you mean 2 carb servings - 30g?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:06 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
Lil, you can go to the site www.aace.com for a list of board certified endos

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:07 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-leader) from 152.163.213.77
Well, good night everyone. Wishing you a safe diabetes journey until we meet again in the virtual support room

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:10 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Cal him back Tammy!1 Don't wait!!

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:20 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
Put in "pediatrics" as the specialty area.

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:38 Eastern US
Judith from 63.162.254.121
See you in Louisville next week, Betty.

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:01:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
With a blood sugar of 17.4, Tammy, insulin is definitely called for. It may not take much to straighten things out at first. Have you tested for ketones when he's that high?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:02:20 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Night Betty and Kris, Thanks!!

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:02:27 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
Tammy, you're in my prayers tonight.

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:02:32 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
He told me to just check for ketones and keep monitoring him and that we should be able to manage it from home

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:03:07 Eastern US
Jane (Kara,6,dx'd 2/01) from 63.29.119.159
what is going on in Louisville next week Judith?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:03:32 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Thanks, Judtih -- I'll look forward to it.

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:03:39 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Tammy, I'd call him back! 17 is too high for comfort, has it come down any on it's own?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:04:45 Eastern US
Tammy (mom of Jannessa 6, dx'd at 5) from 216.36.161.169
need to go for now, my kids need me. I wish I could stay and talk, will be back later, thanks. Connie I will call the doctor!!!

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:04:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Chat co-leader) from 152.163.204.213
Thanks to all -- lots of love to those in the hot seat tonight -- new diagnoses, sputtering honeymoons and all! See y0u next month.

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:05:22 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Good Tammy, let me know!!

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:05:44 Eastern US
Beth (Mom to Ian (4) dx'd 2.5, pumping for 3 weeks) from 65.6.41.52
G'nite, all - thanks!

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:06:14 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.16.102
Night Betty

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:28:26 Eastern US
Mary (RI) (10 year old twins, pumping) from 152.163.207.197
did I miss the chat?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:43:54 Eastern US
Maryann (Momof KCdxd10/00) from 152.163.204.84
Is the momof the 2 year old twins still here?

Wed Aug 8 2001 22:45:43 Eastern US
Maryann (Momof KCdxd10/00) from 152.163.204.84
Hello is anyone still here?

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