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Type 2 Support from October 18, 2000

Betty Brackenridge and Kris Swenson hosted a Virtual Support Group chat about Type 2 diabetes.

Chat Room Administrator chat@childrenwithdiabetes.com Wed Oct 18 2000 20:30:00 Eastern US
The 'VSG Type 2' chat room is now open.

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:52:29 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Welcome to the Virtual Support Group for people with Type 2 diabetes. We can begin any time. Glad you're here!

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:57:26 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 10.0.1.3
Betty, I am probably the only person here and just to make sure everything is working! I'll check back in a bit. Jeff is not available tonight so I'm "it."

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:58:36 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Hi Brenda -- sounds like a good trade to me -- how are you?

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:59:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Thanks for checking -- it;s working, just sparse

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:59:26 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 10.0.1.3
ok, just talking on the phone.

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:59:30 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Actually, I'm here too!

Wed Oct 18 2000 20:59:38 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Good evening. How are you doing?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:00:14 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Fine, and you?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:00:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Wow -- Hi Susie and gvaldeg -- thanks for dropping in

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:00:44 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Hangin' in there.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:00:57 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
"old, proky and forgetful" huh -- sound like my kind of guy -- thanks for coming Gary

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:01:07 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Are you here Betty?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:01:12 Eastern US
Brenda H. from 10.0.1.3
OK--have a good chat. Have to go deal with a crying child (what else is new?).

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:01:16 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
ops-- porky, LOLOL

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:01:44 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Thanks, Brenda -- good luck!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:01:51 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Actually, I said porky...not proky!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:02:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Anything in particular you want to talk about tonight, Susie -

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:02:31 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
BRB...I'll get Jean

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:03:20 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
you know how "finger-tied" I get some time.. how are things on the diabetes front at your place, G?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:03:29 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Jean will be upstairs in just a minute

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:04:01 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
My dr. tried to talk me into prednisone on Monday. I refused. This is to help me with my sinus/asthma problems.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:04:10 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
she hasn't even checked for some time

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:04:30 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Have you taken prednisone before, S?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:05:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
that girl needs a good diabetes educator!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:05:54 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Hi Betty - This is Jean. Gary is right, I haven't been good about checking my blood lately.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:05:55 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Yes I have. I was on a mild dose for a while before I was dx'd in 1-99. I don't like the way I feel on it and at this point, I don't want my bg to go through the roof!!!!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:06:36 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
To be truthful, I have been doing so well and since we have been moving . . . well you know how it goes.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:07:14 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Does "gvaldeg" mean something?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:07:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Well, the predinisone definetly increases insulin resistance -- but that can be handled. The fact that it made you feel lousy is a big factor. Balancing BG control how you feel with what's going on with the asthma -- no fun. How are you feeling tonight?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:08:41 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
It's an old Welch name . . .ancestor of my husband

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:08:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Hi Jean -- yes, of course I know how it goes -- seems like your sugars were outstnading the last time we talked --

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:10:09 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Sinus tenderness. I've had a series of infections over the last few months. I've been on 3 round of antibiotics. The ENT also prescribed Entex and Afrin. My gp hit the roof-I could have had some serious problems with blood pressure. I'm sceptical about meds right now.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:10:33 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
How is retirement agreeing with you now that most of the boxes are unpacked?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:11:48 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
Great. At one point I was toying with consulting, but I am quickly coming to the conclusion that I don't have the time to work.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:11:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Susie, I hear that about being cautious about meds. It really pays to double check. But you're in kind of a bind -- the infection probably messes up your BG about as much as the prednisone would...

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:12:44 Eastern US
gvaldeg (old, porky, and forgetful) from 152.163.201.57
We still have boxes in the garage and we haven't hung the paintings yet . . . they are stacked in the dining room, but everyday things get a little more organized.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:13:07 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Jean - you are my heroine! You need to come by the diabetes center when you're sttled--

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:13:48 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
It sure does. My HgA1c is highest it has been since dx'd. 7.4. My dinner Prandin was increased this week. I'm still running high and feeling uncomfortable hungry.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:14:25 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Susie, is there a particular time of day where you're having the highest BG's?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:14:41 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
It had been running about 6.1

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:16:13 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
After dinner even though I haven't changed my food regiment. Sometime during the night it's as high as 270. When I check it before leaving for work, 6 a.m. it is down to 160 or lower? Then I take my meds and eat and I feel that drop.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:16:23 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
You must be pretty disappointed about a change like that -- but infection is definitely a barrier to control! Are you taking any other meds besides the Prandin?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:17:25 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Wow, that's an unusual pattern. What time of day are you taking the prednisone?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:17:36 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Do you want the entire list?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:18:28 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
LOLOL -- I mean the ones for your diabetes.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:18:29 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I haven't begun the prednisone. The dr. didn't push it, he knows that I have been worried about the bgs and didn't want to push it.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:19:44 Eastern US
VSGtypeII (fauzia) from 205.188.192.172
Hello Betty and everyone out there.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:20:20 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I also take 500 mg of Glucophage with breakfast and dinner. I take 1mg of Prandin with breakfast and lunch and now 2mg with dinner. I was taking 100 mg of Glucophage twice a day. I seem to be more sensitive to the Prandin.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:20:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
of course, you said that at first. Hope that the change in prandin dose helps --

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:21:07 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Hi, Fauzia - glad you found us!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:21:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
When did you cut back on the Glucophage?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:21:40 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I started out with 2mgs of Prandin with each meal. But with diet and exercise I got down to .5 mg of Prandin. I feel like I am regressing. I meant to say that I was up to 1000 mg of Gluc.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:22:45 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I cut back on everything about 18 months ago. I was so proud, thinking that I had achieved "control". I weigh less and am more conscientious about my diet and yet.....

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:23:12 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Hi Fauzia.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:23:45 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Well, that's got to feel lousy -- but try to keep in mind that with your other helth problems, things are happening that work against your best efforts. That's the nature of type 2 diabetes and insulin resistance -- it progresses over time and is very sensitive to things like the infections you've been having.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:24:40 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Sounds like you've worked really hard and it was giving you good success until things beyond your control came along.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:25:10 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I am actually obsessed with staying on the food regiment. I get nervous in the food market. I need to feel relaxed and assured again.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:25:37 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Susie, Fauzia is a doctor visiting in the states from pakistan. She has a diabetes clinic in Lahore Pakistan.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:26:26 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
The antibiotics have kind of knocked the wind out of me also. I haven't been able to have the stamina to work out as I was either.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:26:38 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
I see so many people that get into that state - feeling like everything hinges on every bite of food. That's an awful load to carry around. What kind of food regimen are you using?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:26:58 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Nice to "meet you" Fauzia. Are you here doing research?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:28:53 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
I am sorry this network keep,s throwing me back

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:28:57 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I met with a r.d. at a local hospital in conjuction with a diabetes ed program. I also met with her a few times after and she thought I was handling things well. Basically 30 carbs with meals, protein, a fruit, veggies. I haven't eaten so healthy for so long a period in my life. I spend most of my teens thru college on "diet pills".

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:29:51 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
I would guess that between the antibiotics and the infection and your BG's being up, you're feeling pretty much lake a limp dish rag!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:29:56 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Fauzia, do you have a particular interest in type2 D?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:30:55 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Thirty grams of carb per meal is pretty rigorous -- were you feeling OK on that before you got sick?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:31:22 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
Susie, I have a particular interest in typeI+typeII as well.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:31:41 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
I find that my affect has been greatly effected. My moods have not been too swift either with the sugar rollercoaster rides... My husband is a saint and my 12 yr old son keeps asking me if its my "time of the month" LOL

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:32:47 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
LOLOL -- quite the little man of the world!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:33:45 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
If I eat more, I gain weight. I often skip before bed snack. My dr. has been encouraging me to resume it. I still would like to lose about 40 pounds. My dr isn't pressuring me, thinks that I should "accept my body".

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:34:14 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
He wouldn't be upset if I lost some more though.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:34:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
I know I don't have all the details of your situation, Susie, so take this with a grain of salt -- but only 6 carb servings a day doesn't give you the nutrition you need -- hard to fight off infections when you're eating so conservatively.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:34:31 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
I hope Betty you recieved my E-Mail

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:34:48 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Fauzia, do you find that certain ethnic groups are more prone to type 2?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:35:44 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Well, your doctor sounds like an unusually sensitive person -- a nice change from those that vitually "beat up" any patient who isn't built like Christy Brinkley.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:36:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Yes, Fauzia - I got the e-mail -- I'll send the items tomorrow when I get back to the center

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:36:54 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
Susie you are very right,Native American,s and Asian,s are more prone to type II and now type II in children. Am I right Betty

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:37:09 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
What do you suggest Betty? Perhaps I'm not explaining it correctly. I mean that I eat the equivalent of 2 slices of bread with each meal (apx 15 grams of carbs each) and usually a fruit serving as well. Is that unhealthy? I gain weight so quickly.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:38:31 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
Interesting Fauzia. I'm of Eastern European Jewish decent. Both of my parents have type2 and most of my aunts and uncles, most of whom have maintained normal weight range.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:39:25 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.205.100
It's good to have a doctor who isn't particularly thin himself. He's not obese, but he understands.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:39:49 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Well, that's a bit better than I was thinking, from a nutritional standpoint, Susie. I thought you were eating 30 grams TOTAL carb -- sounds like you're actually getting about 45 X 3 meals -- it's sort of borderline.. just as important, is it a way you can go on eating forever? The problem with "diets" is that vitually everyone eventually goes off of them -- for good human reasons, like they're HUNGRY all the time or can't eat comfrotably with the rest of the family.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:42:12 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Definitely a strong genetic factor in type 2 -- and it is certainly more prevalent in those groups. If the type 2 in your family tends to come with near normal body weight, it's a little different form, perhaps, than the usual one we find among the generl population in the States, Susie.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:42:37 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
I eat comfortably with the family, that hasn't been an issue. I am so used to fighting the urge to eat. My old dr. would increase the intensity of the diet pills if I heaven forbit felt like eating.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:42:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
You sound like me, Susie. Just about everybody in the family has diabetes -- strong genetics pushing us that way.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:44:06 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
Betty, It was nice to come to your chat.I have to run now .Susie bye and best of luck.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:44:37 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
glad to hear this doc isn't into the pill thing -- again, not something you can or should keep up for a l;ifetime -- and anything that you're going to stop will just result in a weight rebound as a rule. It's great that you can follow the healthier eating plan with the family -- very importqant,

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:45:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Bye, Fauzia -- if we don't talk sooner, have a great time at Joslin!!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:46:17 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Some of us, like me have had weight issues. My parents were always on my case because they believed that if I was thin it would decrease the likelihood of my developing D. They both have high cholesterol and mine just recently shot up. I'm on pravachol and my triglyerids are down to 105 (they were nearly 300). Dr. couldn't understand that either since with my diet I had lost weight and got my bg under control. Bad genes.....

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:46:51 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
Betty I am going 4 30 am in the morning to Boston Any advice

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:47:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Can't overestimate the role of those bad genes, for sure.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:47:31 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Betty, do you have D?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:48:12 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Fauzia, my advice is to have a great time and ask LOTS of questions. And, of course, to tell your mentor and teacher everything!! LOLOL -SAy Hello to Melinda for me.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:49:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Yep, Susie. I've got the D too -- it's the IN thing, I understand! Have both type 2 and type 1 in my family -- but I ended up with the 2

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:49:26 Eastern US
vsgtypeII (fauzia) from 152.163.201.203
I,ll DO that. take care and bye

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:50:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
It's intersting the relationship between weight and type 2 -- everyone used to think that you "ate" yourself into the disease -- but that's not the case. The insulin resistance and high insulin levels that predte the diabetes by MANY years actually drive hunger and ft storage -- part of the pathophysiology of the disease, NOT a character flaw!

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:50:49 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Are you on meds? What about diet.

Take care Fauzia.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:51:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
So long, Dr. Fauzia

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:52:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
On Glucophage - 500 mg each at breakfast and lunch and 100 mg at supper. For diet, I count carbs.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:52:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
And try to WALK five days a week -- that's my treatment for the insulin resistance.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:53:20 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Great to know. But I still feel guilty about not watching my weight at times. I really think that the steriods that I have taken for the asthma and given the genetic predisposition played a bit part in my being dx'd at 45 yrs.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:53:37 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Like all good plans, the walking is far from 100% -- some weeks much less, especially when I'm travelling.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:54:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
No doubt -- you have been roylly set-up by genetics and then had so many things in your environment, including the drugs that pushed you over.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:54:44 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
When I'm not a dish rag from the meds, I do 4 to 5 days in the gym. 45 mins on the tred mill and some (machine) weight firming ups. I feel so good afterwards. Is counting carbs similiar to what I am doing? How many carbs do you allow yourself per mean/day?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:55:21 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
mean=meal.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:56:15 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
I work in the cultural/museum part of Philadelphia, Pa. Weather permitting, and asthma also, I take walks at lunch around the gorgeous scenery.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:57:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
I set my carb budget on the basis of after meal BG's -- I can handle three or four (45-60 grams) at breakfast and four or five (60-75) at lunch and supper -- I don't often eat that much, but I figured out my threshold through postmeal testing. Then I know how far I can push it on special occasions or when I'm particularly hungry.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:57:44 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
My parents never went to a CDE or a nutritionist. I have taught them that they can eat sugar and have introduced them to kudo bars, etc.

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:57:55 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Gosh, Philly is SUCH a pretty city to walk in. I'm jealous --

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:58:44 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
And did they freak when you told them that sugar was OK?

Wed Oct 18 2000 21:59:07 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Do you test 2 hrs after meals? I seem to be able to "handle" less with dinner.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:00:28 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
You can test either at one hour or two hours -- but use different targets -- less than 180 for 1 hour and less than 160 for two hours.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:01:22 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
They didn't believe me. They had been eating "sugar free" pastries from a local bakery which were loaded with carbs. I showed them that occasionally eating a packaged pastry with the forbid sugar was actually better. They now understand. I found that even "sugar free" hard candies had more carbs than the new Life Savers Orange and Cream and taste lots better.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:01:40 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Soem who are trying to be especially "tight" shoot for less than 160 at one hour and less than 140 at two hours -- but the first set of numbers will give most people a glyhemoglobin below 7%.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:01:52 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
I have only been testing before meals and occasionally before bed.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:02:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
That whole "sugar feree" thing is a pet peeve of mine.. and I HATE it that the ADA puts their "seal of approval" on that overpriced stuff that is so deceptive to most people.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:03:52 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
I'm very much in favor of post meal testing -- it's that one-hour number that is most highly correlated with both A1c and with heart pro/circulatory problems..

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:04:04 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
They receive money for research for those "seals". It is very deceiving...

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:05:04 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
I'm almost afraid to try it since I've been so erratic of late. Once I get this infection under control I will definitely try it out to gauge what is best for me.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:05:53 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Didn't some wise person comment on money as the root of evil? I did my full on "sugar free foods as the devil's tool" bit for a support group last night --

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:06:59 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Betty, I so appreciate the time that you have spent with me. I regret that others have not taken advantage of this opportunity. I know that you have to go. I must be in work at 7 a.m. It comes so very quickly........

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:07:35 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Well, it can definitely be spooky to test after meals -- although your Prandin is meant to target exactly THAT portion of control... when things are more stable, come on bak and we can talk about it some more. You about ready to call it quits for the evening.. It's getting late in Philly -- and it's getting "hungry" in Arizona!

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:08:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
Susie, it's been a pleasure -- I know that type 2 group will continue to grow o 123 as we add more services for adults -- until then, it's just you and me, kid! Night.

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:08:44 Eastern US
Susie from 207.29.207.201
Unfortunately money is need to support research and like any other business, the non profit sector must sometimes "sell out" also. G-d bless and I think that I will have that snack......

Wed Oct 18 2000 22:10:01 Eastern US
BettyB (Virtual Support Group Host) from 152.163.197.51
I'll join you! Talk to you next month - we'll be in Mexico City for the International Diabetes federation Congress that week -- so we'll have an "international chat!



                 
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