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Type 2 Support from November 15, 2000

Betty Brackenridge and Kris Swenson hosted a Virtual Support Group chat about Type 2 diabetes.

Chat Room Administrator chat@childrenwithdiabetes.com Wed Nov 15 2000 20:30:00 Eastern US
The 'Virtual Support' chat room is now open.

Wed Nov 15 2000 20:59:00 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Any one here yet?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:00:57 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Cool, I'm the first one here!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:02:21 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Hey, Cutie -- Thanks for coming. Welcome to the Virutal Support Group for Type 2 diabetes!!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:02:53 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Pretty bad - I'm obviously spelling impaired!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:03:45 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Your welcome. I have two family members with type two and I know absolutely nothing about type two and was hoping coming here would give me some answeres. Besides, I do plan on becoming an endocrinologist and I really need to know about type two.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:04:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
This is am open chat to answer questions and provide support. Anything particular on your mind tonight?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:05:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
We need more good endocrinologists who really understand diabetes -- good for you.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:05:36 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Yeah, how do you get type two?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:06:18 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
I have type one and I got it when I was only 13, it really devistated me not being able to go trick-or-treating.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:08:28 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Type 2 is set-up by genetics and fueled by the environment. People inherit the tendency toward insulin resistance -- for them it takes more insulin than normal to keep blood sugar under control. The body compensates by making more insulin -- and the extra insulin makes people hungry and promotes fat storage. Several metabolic problems. There are a lot of things in common with Type 1 as far as approaches to care, but the causes are entirely different.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:09:28 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Any big change/challenge is particularly hard in early adolescence. What helped you through that time?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:11:06 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
I really enjoy writting poems and songs. I always listened to music. That really helped since I don't have any friends with diabetes except for type-2 diabetes in my family.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:11:24 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Any one else have a burning question about type 2 diabetes?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:11:56 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Can someone have type one diabetes all there life but it not "kick in" until a virus or something of that soure attacks the pancreas?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:12:30 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Hi Betty..I am a mom of a child with Type 1. I realize it is Type 2 topics however. I work in a field however, where I am in contact with many Type 2 people.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:12:52 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
I'm really currious about diabetes. I don't ever ask my endo any of my questions because I don't like asking things when my mom is around.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:13:58 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
You can have the genetics for type 1 diabetes that seem to lead to development in ealry childhood and teens but we are seeing more and more people now who genetics are quite different whose pancreas is damaged much more slowly and get type 1 at a later age.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:14:26 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Welcome, Kristy. Do you have anything in particular you'd like to talk about?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:14:48 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, do you have a diabetes educator to work with?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:15:12 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
I just wanted to know because I think my doctor said that he believed that I had it all my life and the upper-resperatory inffection that I had "triggered" it.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:15:16 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
No.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:15:20 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
I don't want to intrude on Type 2 night..

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:15:51 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Just an endo. I seen a nutrisionist once and quite the diet she had me on after a couple months.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:16:09 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Cutie - have you told your doc or mom that you'd like to have some private time with the doc. It's pretty common for teens to want at least part of their time with the diab betes team to be private.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:16:45 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, you were born with the genetic make up and it is felt that the beginning of beta cell destruction can be triggered by a virus infection.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:17:03 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Kristy - shoot -- it doesn't look like we have any folks with type 2 themselves in the room, at least yet.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:17:24 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie-How did you manage to stick with the diet for that long????? I don't blame you for not wanting to go back. Not all diabetes educators are like that so you might want to try again.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:18:09 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Oh good:-)

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:18:35 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Don't know. I just did it. I really didn't like the diet and I couldn't eat very much. Now I just don't eat sugar but every once in a blue moon.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:19:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Cutie - it could also be that your type 1 diabetes had been developing for quite a while and that the stress of the upper respiratory infection caused your blood sugars to shoot up because you'd already lost the ability to make the extra insulin we all need when we're under stress.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:19:28 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
We have had a rough week..Drew was so high at school on Monday, I had to take him home. His set came out and it took 2 injections to bring him down. Hate days like that..

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:19:28 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Oh, I have anothe question. My friend says that here uncle got diabetes by a blood transfusion, is that possible?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:19:47 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, have you talked to anyone about carbohydrate counting??

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:20:42 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, we have not heard of blood transfusions causing diabetes but the stress of the illness or surgery that needed the blood could have brought the blood sugar up

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:20:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
That must have been a hair-pulling day for both of you. Does he often have problems with his sets?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:21:35 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
I just feel so resentful on days like that..He didn't want to leave school..but, yet I was reluctant to have him there with volatile numbers..Hard to know what is right in every situation..even after dealing with diabetes almost 5 years, and pumping 3years!!!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:22:40 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Yes I have but I can't stick to that very well. But I tried to eat the least amount of carbohydrates I can each time I eat and have one "cheat" meal everyday. But I had to quit that when school started.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:22:46 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
No , set problems are rare for us. That is why it threw me for such a loop! Was stunned that it took 10 units to get him numbers down. Not real sure how long the set had been out. Thank goodness we are big testers!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:23:43 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, are you using Humalog to cover the carbs you choose to eat?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:23:47 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Boy, I can hear the frustration in all that, Kristy, and rightly so. Diabetes is not given to perfection!! So many variables. Has the pump helped overall?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:24:55 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Betty..I have had a real fear the last few days concerning a question that was posted to Ask the Diabetes team here..a question that concerned a 16yr who had been dx with diabetes. She went into DKA several months after her dx and died. I am finding myself very concerned lately about brain swelling and horrible stuff like that..:-(

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:25:36 Eastern US
hot_bod2004 (future country singer/songwriter- Crystal's hunk) from 207.177.76.146
Hello everyone. I'm 14 and have had diabetes since August 1997.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:25:41 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Well, Kristy, if set problems are rare in a 7 year old, I'd say you're probably doing a LOT of things right! Is Drew pumping HUmalog? And is that what you used to bring down the high?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:25:58 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Yes I do use humalog, I might start using the pump this December.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:26:06 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Yes, he likes the pump as do we. I feel it has been very liberating! Especially with the food thing!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:26:43 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Hello Hot Bod, welcome to the chat

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:26:46 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Yes..we do use H..

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:27:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Yikes! That is the scariest prospect!! Testing for ketones and using supplemental insulin when BG's are high can all but elimnate episodes of full blown diabetic ketoacidosis.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:27:46 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, I'm glad you have Humalog as a tool. Matching it to the carbs you choose to eat can free you to choose anything, not to have to avoid any certain food.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:27:48 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
hi everyone! is this for t-1 or 2 tonite?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:28:06 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
When I read things of that nature I tend to get so paranoid!!! That whole day battling blood sugar I had a hard time shaking that fear.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:28:14 Eastern US
Mike (type 1) from 63.214.83.215
Hi gang!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:28:17 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
An insulin pump can be a wonderful tool too. The carb counting and humalog match will be very helpful if and when you choose to go on a pump.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:28:23 Eastern US
hot_bod2004 (future country singer/songwriter- Crystal's hunk) from 207.177.76.146
I tried the pump trial and couldn't stand it. I thought it was annoying, having it hanging from me. But that's my opinion. It's better for some people than others.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:28:32 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
When you hear about people dying in DKA it is often because insulin was omitted when someone got so ill that they couldn't eat -- and they or someone else that they SHOULDN'T give insulin without food. Without any insulin, blood chemistries can get very disordered in a few hours.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:28:44 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Hi Sharon. welcome

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:29:00 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
I always hear about how good the pump is, is it really good?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:29:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Hey Sharon -- nominally for type 2 -- but everyohe in the room tonight seems to have type 1 ezxcept ME!!! LOL

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:29:06 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Hi hotbod.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:29:18 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Hello Mike, welcome

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:29:40 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
lol betty!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:30:12 Eastern US
Mike (type 1) from 63.214.83.215
Hi Kris. Is this for type 2?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:30:17 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Cutie, the pump is only as good as the brain running it. It can make the background insulin easier to match but doesn't take away the work of managing diabetes day to day.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:30:26 Eastern US
hot_bod2004 (future country singer/songwriter- Crystal's hunk) from 207.177.76.146
Like i said cutie, I tried the pump trial and couldn't stand it. I thought it was annoying, having it hanging from me. But that's my opinion. It's better for some people than others.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:31:00 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
It would surely be nice to have a "smart pump"!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:31:01 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i would like to consider putting my kidson the pump, but i have to get over my fear of it

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:31:33 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Mike, this is scheduled for type 2 but so far no one has come on board.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:31:47 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Hotbod~nice picture!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:31:50 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Since everybody's personality AND their diabetes are different, it's often a matter of finding just the right tools for a good fit.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:32:04 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i am hoping going to orlando & seeing lots of people with pumps will help me

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:32:09 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
I have a fear of it but it won't kill me to try it.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:00 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Sharon, we will look forward to seeing you in Florida. Sounds like alot of fun!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:09 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
you're right cutie. can i ask how old you are? i mean, are you a teen?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:12 Eastern US
hot_bod2004 (future country singer/songwriter- Crystal's hunk) from 207.177.76.146
Well they had a represntative come and talk to us at home about it (the pump). They did a great job of showing how it works and what it does. They didn't put a lot of pressure on us, they were very nice and understanding about it.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
That "smart pump" will probably be coming along before too much longer - MANY companies working on it. In the meantime, we can do pretty well with syrines, pens or pumps and a good "smart brain" to run them.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:28 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
yes kris, i am bringing my kids, hubby & my parents!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:47 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Betty B and Kris S, I really appreciate your help with answering my questions. But I have to go now.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:51 Eastern US
hot_bod2004 (future country singer/songwriter- Crystal's hunk) from 207.177.76.146
The rep kinda takes the fear away so it's a decision based on what YOU want.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:33:55 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
true betty, but this smart brain is VERY tired

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:34:16 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Some pump companies offer a trial on the pump to make sure it works for you. You might ask them this when you are thinking about it.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:34:32 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
You are right Betty!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:34:36 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Sharon, keep talking to parents and kids who are using them. Most are very happy with the experience IF they get good advice on dosing and know how to use the pump with carb counting.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:34:45 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
Sharon ~ I'm sorry but I can't give out my age, mom's rule. If she didn't care I'd tell you.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:35:12 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
LOL- boy, I hear that, Sharon. You undoubtedly have your hands more than full!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:35:19 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Bye cutie, hope to see you again on the chats.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:35:19 Eastern US
cutie2000 from 209.86.45.63
~gone~

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:35:30 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
yes, i am seeking info so when i am ready, i can make some intelligent decisions. i really feel like i know nothing, even though i have been reading a bit & asking parents of pumpers loads of questions

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:35:46 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
no prob cutie-that kind of answers for me tho :-)

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:36:05 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Thanks for coming, Cutie -- hope you keep coming back for good info and support. Night!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:36:12 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
so so so full.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:36:15 Eastern US
hot_bod2004 (future country singer/songwriter- Crystal's hunk) from 207.177.76.146
I talked to my doctor recently and was put at a different scale. I was just adjusting based on everything in my environment, but he gave me a sliding scale. I'm suposed to take my blood sugar minus 120, then divide that number by 50. Then i'm supposed to add that on to my base humalog. Has anybody else heard of this?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:36:29 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Sharon..feel free to email me any time kmeanor@diabetes.org Drew has pumped since age 4!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:37:12 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
thanks so much kristy. is there anything you recommend reading?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:37:47 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
hot bod- this is the adjustment factor that we use too. How is it working for you?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:38:17 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Sharon, we're working on getting a hosted chat specifically on kids and pumps so keep an eye out for that and gather up all your questions.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:38:21 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Ellen's website..as well as Insulin Pumpers website..I would call MM and Dis ask for their vidoes and all materials relating to children..

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:38:45 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i have heard of other different strange sounding ways to calculate insulin doses. does yours seem to work?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:39:02 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
thanks kristy

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:40:15 Eastern US
dane (formerly hot bod) (14, dxd in August 97) from 207.177.76.146
So far i've had a lot less consistency. I don't think it takes into factor my varied ammounts of excersise and other things. I've had a lot more highs and lows, but i've only been doing this for a half month.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:41:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Sharon, that formula that Hotbod gave is based on a target blood sugar of 120 and and assumption that 1 unit of insulin drops blood sugar about 50 points, pretty reasonable but for small kids you might need a different number than the fifty - especially if total daily insulin doses are really small.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:42:04 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Dane, I'm assuming you are adding this to your food Humalog? Also, are you adjusting your long acting insulin based on your exercise or what kind of patterns you are seeing?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:42:37 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
kristy-i feel like my kids have such great control, most bg's in range, great hba1c's, i feel like putting them on the pump will be a bumpy ride, and why ask for that when things are going so well? if there bg's were crazy, or we had a horrible time with mdi's, i could see doing it sooner, do you understand what i mean?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:43:14 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
yes betty-that wouldnt work for my kids. they are doing great on their regimens anyway

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:43:34 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
I have to get the bed time routine going here..Kris and Betty, THANK YOU for your words of wisdom and support!!:-)

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:44:06 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
bye kristy.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:44:14 Eastern US
Kristy (Drew 7yrs dx @ 3) from 199.174.134.39
Sharon..I totally agree! If it ain't broke..why fix it?? Drew was way broke when we starting pumping! LOL..

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:45:20 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Bye for now, Kristy. Take care until next time.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:45:48 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Sharon, it sounds like you're getting great results and I understand being reluctant to change or jeopardize that. But you also seem to be working AWFULLY hard to get those great numbers. It's possible that a tool like a pump might lighten the load, given your excellent knowledge of insulin and carbs... IF you had good advice and support abut pump doses. They can really smooth out blood sugars under the best of circumstances. Not without their price and they surely don't make the diabetes go away. But there's a reason why so many folks with type 1 find them to be helpful.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:46:07 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i think it may be best to wait until we lose control (?) of the whole thing, and TEHN start pumping.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:46:19 Eastern US
dane (formerly hot bod) (14, dxd in August 97) from 207.177.76.146
yes. I'm not adjusting my Ultalente because if i go up 1 I get low overnight anf if i go down i'm high overnight.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:47:24 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Sharon, have you asked the kids what they think?

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:47:25 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i can see that betty. the endo is starting to put more kids on pumps, asked if gabi would consider it, she is 12. gabi rolled her eyes at him! gotta love kids. he said she is doing so well, it would take her to the next level in her care, or something to that effect.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:47:49 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i start talking to steve, my 6 yr old, and he walks away. doesnt give a hoot.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:47:54 Eastern US
Amy (d 11.5 yrs, pumping) from 216.164.131.63
hello

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:48:33 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Dane, sometimes the challenges are due to the background insulin. A pump only uses Humalog insulin so it takes those problems of long acting away.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:49:04 Eastern US
dane (formerly hot bod) (14, dxd in August 97) from 207.177.76.146
I think Sharon may be right. But on the other hand they are more likely to give the pump to someone with good control then poor control.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:49:04 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Welcome Amy. Glad you could join us.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:49:27 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Sharon, if the kids aren't interested, that's probably a good reason to not rock the boat.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:50:01 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
brb-gabi feels low

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:50:24 Eastern US
dane (formerly hot bod) (14, dxd in August 97) from 207.177.76.146
Hello Amy. Welcome to the support chat, glad you were able to join us.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:51:13 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Dane, insurance and doctors must be different where you live. The tendency out here in Arizona is for the pump to be suggested when things are going VERY badly. That can be a good reason to consider a pump for some people - but it should also be an option for those whose blood sugars are fine but who just want nore freedom and flexibility, I think.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:51:20 Eastern US
Amy (d 11.5 yrs, pumping) from 216.164.131.63
yeah, I think the patient needs to initiate the pump process, since they will be the ones doing most of the work with it

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:52:10 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i'm back. no low-she's just tired :-)

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:52:42 Eastern US
Amy (d 11.5 yrs, pumping) from 216.164.131.63
here the endos wait for patients to inquire andalso make sure the patients already demonstrate the skills necessary..carb counting, adjusting own doses, checking numerous times a day..

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:53:04 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Very true, Amy. True of everything in diabetes. The person effected is the one who has to put all these brilliant ideas into action -- it should ultimately be their decision - in concert with parents in the case of youngsters.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:53:07 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Glad to hear it, Sharon!

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:54:36 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Well, in our last 5 minutes or so, any burning questions you'd like to ask or topics to discuss.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:55:36 Eastern US
sharon (2 kids with D) from 165.247.31.174
i'll just say goodnite & thanks for the chat. see you next time :-)

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:55:38 Eastern US
dane (formerly hot bod) (14, dxd in August 97) from 207.177.76.146
I have to go to bed now. Goodnight everyone. Feel free to email me at dnealson2004@yahoo.com.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:56:17 Eastern US
dane (formerly hot bod) (14, dxd in August 97) from 207.177.76.146
Thank you everyone for the chat. Goodnight.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:56:22 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Good night, Dane. Hope you'll join us again.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:56:31 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Thanks, Dane. Thanks for sharing.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:57:58 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Remember Type 1 Chat the first Wednesday of December - be there or be square.

Wed Nov 15 2000 21:58:42 Eastern US
BettyB (Type 2 VSG Co-Host) from 205.188.200.28
Amy, Mike, you still with us? Any last comments or questions?

Wed Nov 15 2000 22:01:30 Eastern US
Kris S (Type 2 VSG co-host) from 152.163.207.176
Good night, until we meet again.

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