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Type 2 Support from August 22, 2001

Betty Brackenridge and Kris Swenson hosted a Virtual Support Group chat about Type 2 diabetes.

Chat Room Administrator Wed Aug 22 2001 20:15:00 Eastern US
The 'Virtual Support' chat room is now open.


Wed Aug 22 2001 20:36:26 Eastern US
Ellen (FL) (Zachary 13, dx'd 2/89, pump 5 yrs) from 152.163.213.82
Is this virtual support for type 1 or 2?

Wed Aug 22 2001 20:59:45 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Hi Ellen! i think itīs type 2 today

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:00:46 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.20
hello can us type 1s lurk as usual?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:01:01 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Good evening.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:01:19 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Hi everyone

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:01:33 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Hi Girls!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:01:41 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I could really use the support...I have had a horrid few days.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:02:10 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
What's up Susie

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:03:11 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
how come Susie?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:03:49 Eastern US
Betty (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Hello everyone... Betty and I are here, sharing a computer at my kitchen table.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:04:08 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I needed to have a cat scan with contrast. I gave a complete med history on the phone to the tech. She told me to stop the glucophage and since I have asthma she would call my pharmacy with a script so as not to have a reaction to the dye. It turned out that the meds were Medrol, a steroid and I have been suffering since yesterday.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:04:20 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Hi Betty and Kris

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:04:48 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Hi Betty.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:05:13 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Oh Susie, we are so sorry to hear medical ignorance hit home once again.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:05:27 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Hi Betty and Kris!! How was AADE meeting?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:05:49 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Did they suggest how long it would take for the Medrol to wear off?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:06:28 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Hey Nina. Betty went to AADE and I kept the office running.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:06:46 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
The radiologist told me that I was having an anxiety attack. He had me take the meds 12 hrs before so that it peaked during the test and had me take me 2 hrs before,also.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:07:54 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
well, someone has to do the hard job Kris! :)

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:08:05 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, what can we say. That must have been a horrible experience.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:08:23 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, Betty or Kris, is there a such thing as having an A1C that is too low?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:08:37 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Nina, exactly what I said.... Betty had to collect prizes for our support group. That was hard.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:08:41 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
The palpitations have, thank goodness ceased. My affect if improving. But my bg is still elevated. My gp, whom I have spoke with a few times, says that I may have elevated bg until Friday. I want to give the radiologist a piece of my mind...when it returns fully.
I also do not want him to do the same to someone else.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:09:45 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Could be if you are having a lot of lows Nancy ...

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:09:54 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Yuck Susie!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:09:55 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Congrats, Betty!!! So many of us have benefitted from your help.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:09:59 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Nancy, as far as we know, any A1c is fine, the lower the better, in the normal range. The only problem is if lower A1c is being produced by too many low bkood sugars.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:11:18 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Do you know what a 4.4 A1c equals in average blood sugar

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:11:42 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Congrats Betty and Kris, I hear you met the infamous Judith ,Betty!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:11:48 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
How low was your A1c Nancy?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:12:05 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Nina, there was an educator from Mexico named MOnica that attended one of my sessions - she brought greetingts froM Maria Elena Carranza

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:12:30 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
4.4% equals BG somewhere between 80-100 on average

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:12:46 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, with diet, exercise and Starlix 4.4,

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:12:58 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
hi everyone

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:13:17 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Connie, yep I met Judith. That was great after seeing her in the chats for so long.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:13:37 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Sounds like you're doing great Nancy!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:13:42 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Hi Jenna - welcome

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:13:52 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
thanks

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:13:53 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Yes Betty! Monica has type 1 and a very nice story, some dr told her she couldīnt get pregnant because of diabetes and then she took one of our education courses and now has two babies!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:14:14 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Wish I could do that with insulin

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:14:20 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
NAncy, good for you. Looks like Starlix and your own efforts are working great together

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:14:25 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Connie I have put a lot of work into it but I am proud of what I have accomplished

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:14:28 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Is Starlix similiar to Prandin?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:14:44 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes Nancy! then itīs not too low, ITīS PERFECT!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:14:50 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Betty, I wanted to tell you something. Last month I mentioned on this chat
that I had gone to a diabetic seminar at which the internist who was giving
it said don't worry about after meal testing because those numbers
were too temperary to worry about. You told me on the chat
that after meal testing WAS important because of heart disease
and it was 60% of your A1c. I resently visited MY internist who agreed
with you 100% about both the points you made and he has since talked
to the internist who gave the seminar (they are in the same group) and
told him he had misinformed us (several of my internist patients besides me
were at that seminar and others mentioned this too) about the importance
of postprandial blood sugars. Betty, you are good. You go girl.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:15:43 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Thanks Nina

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:16:47 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Nancy, wish I could take full credit for that wisdo9m -- I just listen to kris! LOL But ho9w cool that your question caused your doc to straighten him out!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:17:03 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
is eveyone in here diabetic?does anyone have type 1 and type 2?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:17:28 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Clearly, it's time to shorten my fingernails -- too many numbers getting in with the letters!!!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:18:04 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
LOL @ Betty and Kris!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:18:18 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, Starlix is similiar to Prandin but we've found more lows after meals on the Prandin in our patients.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:18:22 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Is Starlix similar to Prandin?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:18:40 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
LOL@Betty and Kris.comical

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:19:05 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Jenna, this group tonight is a mix. We usually have type 1 chat on the 2nd wed of the month and type 2 on the fourth wednesday. There are always people with both types so please stay and ask any questions you would like.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:19:13 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I have been on Prandin for over two years. Should I ask my dr. about Starix?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:19:24 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
you might notice that I no longer have pretty fingernails.... that's only betty

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:20:02 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
My doctor put me on an ACE Inhibitor, how does that help?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:20:55 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, it totally depends on whether things are going well with the Prandin. If your control is good and you're not having lows between meals, no reason to change.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:22:27 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
NAncy, the ACE inhibitor is used for two things -- it is a great agent for blood pressure control, especially in diabetes. And sometimes it is used even when the blood sugar is fine, because it has been shown to protct kidneys.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:22:31 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
well i just got diagnosed in jan this year and i started out with shots and then he put me on half pill with shots and then today he put me on half a pill two times a day and lowered my insulin it might work but if it stays too high i guess he will put me on all shots again and if thats happens im hoping to get a pump

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:22:50 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Nancy I was put on and ACE for spilling protien and for elevated BG, both are much better.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:23:02 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I don't have many lows. I started out at 0.5 mgs and am not at 2 mgs with meals. My last A1c was 6.0. I have lost the weight, stick to a very rigid low g.i. diet, and exercise as much as possible, but still have had to increase.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:23:08 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Meant, even when the blood PRESSURE is fine, ACE inhibitor may be used to protect kidneys

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:23:43 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
not=now.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:24:16 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
I'm getting depressed, my A1C is 7.4

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:24:41 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
I may have to start clorestrol medicine to because my HDL was too low. He did a new set of blood work to check to see if it has come up. I think it was 38

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:24:51 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
So, Jenna, sounds like they'r not quite sure whether you have Type 1 or type 2 diabetes -- that's a common quetion in someone your age. Refer on this website for information on some tests that mightn help answer the question: GAD protein ahnd antibody testing

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:25:18 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Connie, if this cheers you up, I'm sure my A1c these past 2 days would be about 12!!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:26:07 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Connie, please don't get depressed

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:26:12 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, this is a journey of slow pancreas poop out. I would guess that is what you've been experiencing. It is anticipated that your meds would need to be advanced as time goes on, not due to anything you can control, just the genetics and time.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:26:51 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Connie, 7.4 is awesome for type 1 diabetes and the tight rope you are walking.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:27:20 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Susie, after last week, my A1C would be outrageous, good thing I only need to do it every 6 months now!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:27:32 Eastern US
cmoon (Joseph 13, Dx 7/99 T-1) from 63.44.126.150
Hang in there Connie, Each day comes with a fresh start.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:27:44 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
well they nknow i have type 1 but they think they can mayb eget it to where i have to take 2 instead of 3 shots a day i think but if the pill doesnt work im going to get a pump they are doing this cause all my testing was normal and my a1c was good

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:28:33 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
you echo the sentiments of my physician. He's happy with my weight and what I'm doing...I still have this fantasy that if I get down to swim suit model weight, I'll be somehow "cured". Mom's on insulin. Dad's a type 2 and never had a weight problem, ate well, and exercised. Bad gene :-(

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:28:40 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
LOL, I never get realy depressed, just frustrated, woke up in DKA 2 days last week! Has settled now

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:29:21 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Nancy, other things that may help your HDL that I hope they're telling you about are exercise, modest alcohol intake, using monounsaturate oils and soy products. Pull out all the stops and try any/all that sound good. Low HDL is part of the common insulin resistant syndrome associated with type 2 diabetes.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:29:33 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Susie I know how you feel, I figured I AM cured with a 4.4 A1c

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:30:46 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
sorry to hear that Connie. This D is so sensitive as I have found out the last few days. Also be happy :-) you haven't had to live with me...I actually started screaming like a lunatic, at my hubby, earlier today. Don't ask me why now.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:30:52 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Jenna, If this is true type 1 diabetes you will need insulin, preferably 4 or more injections a day to mimic what the pancreas would do for you if it could. Pills do not help in type 1 diabetes. A pump would be a much easier way to deliver the multiple doses that a person needs if they are having to "think like a pancreas".

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:30:55 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
I never get depressed, just frustrated, was in DKA Monday and Tuesday last week, took a week to figure out what was causing it

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:31:59 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Connie, Betty and I are curious as to where the DKA came from.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:33:12 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
pleuresy

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:33:18 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I'm going to try to spready some more cheer tomorrow and return to work. :-) (Hubby is encouraging it...can't imagine why.. he works from home!!)

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:33:31 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
How often do you usually monitor your bg Connie?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:33:55 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
well i still took my normal dose and half a pill and my sugar stayed normal was maybe low like twice now he is lowering my dose and im taking a whole pill a day

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:34:10 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Oh Connie, that hurts!!! So glad you're feeling better now.
Susie, work is therapy.... for your husband

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:34:13 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
don't have enough symptoms wasn't dx till Thursday night

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:34:26 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
what pill are you taking Jenna?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:34:32 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
Hello Everyone... can I join in?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:34:56 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
glucophage

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:35:00 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Nina, I test a lot, a minimum of 8-10 times a day

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:35:18 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Hi Doreen

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:35:36 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
i test 4 times a day

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:35:58 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
Hey Jenna.... I have a 8 year old daughter named Jenna!! Don't hear it much.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:01 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I work with children and their families. They come in with problems....hope I can control the affect. I described other symptoms to gp..he thinks that medrol has really effected my nervous system. UGH
Connie, glad that you figured out what the problem was!!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:10 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
i have to go for a sec ill be back in a min

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:20 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
thanks Connie, sorry to hear you had all that trouble!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:23 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
cool

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:25 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Jenna, it is not uncommon for people to experience what is called "a honeymoon" the first year or so after diagnosis of type 1. A temporary period in which blood sugars may often be near normal on very little or no medicine. Almost always, slowly the need for insulin returns. These pills will not put this off or treat this. It's still possible that your doctors think you have type 2 diabetes since Glucophage is a pill for type 2 diabetes.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:55 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
I test about the same as Connie. I think that goes with the pumping.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:36:56 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
I thought that oral meds were only given to t-2s and that glucophage was for insulin resistance. Do 1s have insulin resistance also?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:37:01 Eastern US
jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
well ill be back

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:37:26 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Welcome Doreen.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:37:54 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
does your insurance cover all of that testing Connie and Doreen?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:38:12 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Connie, I really feel for you 8 to 10 times a day. Yicks.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:38:35 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, in the rare cases of insulin resistance and type 1 diabetes, it would be more appropriate to use Actos or Avandia to treat the insulin resistance rather than Glucophage or just get the blood sugar under better control. High blood sugars can cause insulin resistance too.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:39:01 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
The incidence of type 2 in children is increasing, specially in hispanics

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:39:22 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
My insurance is excellent. They paid 100% of the pump and 1 year supply. I pay a $12 copay every 3 months for the 3 month supply.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:39:43 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
mine covers everything Susie, even the pump batteries!
Nancy I don't mind testing

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:39:46 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Hello all, this is my first time here, I am recently diagnosed.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:39:54 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
A collegue of mine, D since early childhood, has told me that she is in an experimental program called I believe "fusion" in which her endo gives her one shot each week. She claims that she is doing much better.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:40:12 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Thatīs great Doreen!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:40:33 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.78.67.161
Hi Everyone

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:40:34 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Hi TedT!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:40:43 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
that's great. my insurance only covers 100 strips per month.
Hi Ted, welcome.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:40:55 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Welcome, TedT. How's it going ?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:41:20 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Hey, when I measure my BG in the evening it is usually controlled, but in the morning, before eating, it is usually > 125. Dos this happen to anyone else?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:41:24 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Hi Wendy and Ted

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:41:28 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Why is it that just because I had a couple of test of 200 that I would be diagnosed as diabetic for life. I mean it was only a couple of lousy test?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:42:02 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Hi Wendy.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:42:28 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, That could be a drug called Amylin - it ndoesn't replace insulin but may help stabilize control - at least that's what the manufacturer is wanting to show.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:42:36 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Nancy, when were you diagnosed?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:43:07 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
Hi Wendy & Ted!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:43:12 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Susie, about 8 months ago

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:43:41 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Nancy, it's simple. People without diabetes never have a blood sugar that high and when your blood sugat gets above normal it's harmful. Makes sense to treat it to protect your health.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:43:56 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
So far, the doc wants me to use diet and exercise (no meds), but I haven't been able to get down to < 120 in my morning BGs. Any idea how long the doc will try to treat without meds?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:44:04 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Nancy, once you have one measure above 200 you are diagnosed with Diabetes ... one of the hardest steps in diabetes control is to accept it ...

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:44:25 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
She is doing well with it. She says that she is only one of 500 people in this experimental program. She is so confident. I hope that these results are long lasting. She has been so depressed...had a coronary last year, on the job.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:44:49 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, truer words were never spoken about acceptance

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:45:12 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Ted, that's great that you can achieve some success without meds...that was never the case for me.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:45:51 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
TedT, the first treatment for type 2 is diet and exercise, are you watching your dinner?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:45:51 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Nancy you do so well, you are to be commended!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:45:55 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Ted, a blood sugar that is higher when you get up in the mor4ning than it was when you went to bed means that your liver is putting out eztra glucose during the night.It's a common problem in Type 2 and is generally treated with either metformin or bedtime insulin. Since you're so new to diabetes, metformin (Gluco9phage) wo9uld be the logical chyoice. What is it running after meals?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:46:34 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
THANKS, Connie. YOU are the one who should get the gold star.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:46:48 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Nancy, I see so many 2s in denial..both at work and in my family, where D is all too common. I was really angry and I still am at times. Especially with the high cholesterol and everything else that seems to come with it. I also have asthma and those meds interfere with the D treatment, big time.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:46:55 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
B & K - are you talking about two hrs after? If so, it seems to be 100-110.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:48:06 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Ted keep in mind that if your blood sugar falls after supper but rises again over night, it is NOT what you are eating - but a simp0le lack of effective i8nsulin overnight.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:48:08 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Nancy I wouldn't survive with T 2, I can't follow a schedule!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:48:19 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
I just wonder if I will ever get past that little voice that say No you aren't, Yes you are. Gee whizz. It drives me crazy

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:48:55 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Yes, Suzy, the nurse that taught me how to use the meter referred to me as a "triple threat" - Diab. 2, hi chol, and hi BP. - great to have a tag isn't it?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:49:12 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Ted, those are great numbers for after meals -- sounds like whatever you're doing food and exercise wise is working very well -- you just may need some help with that fasting BG.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:49:12 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Connie, yes you would survive it.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:49:26 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
Connie... there's a schedule to keep with Type I also without a pump. Didn't you keep a schedule before a pump?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:50:07 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Doreen, have always been on a sliding scale have never followed a schedule

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:50:15 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
Connie, I have always appreciated that you are not "prejudiced" when it comes to we 2s. I was ashamed when first dx'd, since the media has been interpreted as saying that we are 2s simply because we eat improperly and are too lazy to exercise.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:50:30 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
"Triple threat" is the usual Type 2 diabetes syndrome, Ted. You've got LOTS of company!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:50:38 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
B & K - does that mean my pancreas is shutting down overnight or my liver is overwhelming it?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:51:04 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.78.67.161
Schedule for a type 1, i must have missed that class

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:51:39 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Susie, I despise those adverts! Ask my hubby I get very nasty when they come on

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:51:41 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
B & K - scheduling question - how often does this group meet?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:51:41 Eastern US
Mike (type 1) from 66.19.6.56
Hi!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:51:52 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 209.152.220.131
It's not such a great club to join, Ted. And you can't unjoin...it's a life long committment!!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:52:04 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
If you've got to miss one, Wendy, that's a good one to miss. Your team must have started yo9u o9ut with some more flexible tools than the old way!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:52:17 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
im back now can you explain to me the honeymoon period

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:52:30 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
Wow... when I was diagnosed at 11, that's ALL I had. A schedule and no sugar at all. But, that's going back quite aways. LOL

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:52:56 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.78.67.161
Betty and Kris, no i was just the teen who refused to listen to them...sorrry going back to my corner...

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:53:24 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Ted, the pancreas doesn't shut down, it just can't put out enough at that time to shut down the liver - and as for this Type 2 chat, it takes place the fo9urth Wednesday of each month.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:53:32 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Yea, but the shame is surprising. I am still shy about telling friends.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:53:54 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 207.29.206.77
Connie, it has taken a lot of work for me to over come the shame.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:53:57 Eastern US
Wendy from 12.78.67.161
I had to fight with the current endo for the pump...she kept telling me well if you kept to a schedule your sugars would be fine...and i said..I NEVER HAVE and NEVER WILL

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:54:24 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
B & K - OK, I will try to be here regularly.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:54:30 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Susie, my mum grew up with T1(her dad, my father grew up ith T2(his mum)My mother has always been pro active when it comes to D, seemed to be ahead of her time, I try to tel her stuff now and she says, "remember when I told you....."

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:54:53 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Jenna, the honeymoon is a period of low insulin needs that often comes in the first year after diagnosis. It is almost always temporary.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:55:57 Eastern US
Ann from 65.224.221.173
There is some evidence that those who don't go into DKA [diabetic ketoacidosis] have a longer honeymoon period, but it is weak. Although honeymoon periods are of variable length, I know of no other predictors of duration. It does seem biologically plausible, however, for any remaining islet cells to fare better if the prevailing blood sugars are normal.




Wed Aug 22 2001 21:56:00 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 207.29.206.77
Ted, it took a while for me to be open about it. I must confess, I practice what I preach as a social worker of 23 years, I have gone and do go for therapy when I need it. I have found it useful.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:56:06 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Wendy, good for you for sticking up for your rights. You - ahnd everyone else - needs to live their diabetes according to their own style of loife. Some people are schedule people -- but not many in our experience!!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:57:06 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Do us T2s have different reactions to different types of breads? EG, could wheat bread affect me more than corn tortillas?

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:57:11 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
so right now if i take a pill and shots in time i could go to where i have to take just shots and the pill wont ddo any good is that what you are saying right now it may seem the pill works but in time my need for insulin will or could increase and then the pills wont do any good anymore

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:57:15 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Susie you have nothing to be ashamed of. You have and are fighting a battle and it sounds like you are doing your best to win it. Genetics plays an important role in this.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:57:25 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, you know how valuable it is to be able to talk things through. Ann, thanks for that nice explanation!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:58:01 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Ted, I have different reactions to different breads. Done't give me anything with flour in it.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:58:29 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Jenna, that's exactly right - IF you have type 1. And only time will really tell whether you actually have type 1 or type 2. Good luck,

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:58:52 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 207.29.206.77
B & K: I do feel very regimented with the Prandin as I can't have smaller meals, just the three that I take the Prandin for. If I don't take the Prandin, I sky rocket.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:59:15 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
One good thing is this is FORCING me to get back into a REGULAR exercise program. - I have lost about 8 lb over the last 6 weeks - that at least makes me feel good!

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:59:48 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Ted, the best way to tell how ANYTHING effects your blood sugar is to test after meals. Type of startch or sugar and amount eaten as well as other things effect the exact impact on blood sugar.

Wed Aug 22 2001 21:59:51 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Way to go Ted

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:00:01 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
See Susie, that' why I feel T 1 is easier! I've always been able to skip insulin if I didn't want to eat! Or Take Less

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:00:04 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
oh ok thanks cause he said to call like every 2 weeks now and tell him my readings if the pill in time doesnt work he siad he thinks i would do good with a pump

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:00:28 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
interesting topic.... genetics. I have zero family history of diabetes in my family. Just me. Do you suppose this is something where I will start passing it on to future generations? Or do you suppose it was my body fighting off good cells when I was real sick prior to diagnosis? So many doctors have different opinions.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:00:33 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Ted, it all depends on the amount of carbs, fat and glycemic index of the foods you eat ... youīll learn more how you respond to different foods with time and monitoring

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:10 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 207.29.206.77
Ted, I was introduced here to a diet that has helped me greatly. It is a low glycemic index diet which basically eliminates processed foods. I have found that I am very sensitive to i.e. white or regular whear bread, but pumpernickle, sour dough, and cracked wheat breads do not cause my bg to soar.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:21 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Nina, Kris and Betty you are all so wise

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:24 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
well when i was diagnosed i was really sick and my sugar was 1099

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:41 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Susie, the dose of Prandin can vary from meal to meal. The guidelines is a max of 16 mg totl in a day. That can be divided up differently on different days - taking a olittle when you eat a little and a more when you eat a lot. Ask your team about getting 0.5 mg, 1 mg or 2 mg tbs so you can dose for carbs instead of taking a stati dose. Your blood sugars anhd sanity should both be better.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:49 Eastern US
Doreen (Type I, Pumping) from 63.166.242.16
Hey Ted... I think I was the one you gave those 8 pounds to!!!! LOL And I'm not going to say thank you either! LOL

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:49 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Nina, do you have a site that gives the glycemic index for different foods?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:01:59 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
im the only one in my family with diabetes too

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:02:03 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Thatīs right Susie!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:02:43 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
LOL Doreen!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:03:06 Eastern US
Mike (type 1) from 66.19.6.56
Im the only one in my family too Jenna

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:03:11 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
if you are in the states Ted, you can get some very good books, and also through the internet, i donīt have one at hand now

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:03:50 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
cool mike

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:03:51 Eastern US
Betty &Kris (Co hosts) from 152.163.194.208
Being the only person in your family with kinown diabetes is pretty comkmon with type 1 - more rare with type 2. We're out of time folks. Thnaks so much for coming and sharing. Have a great month and we hope to see you again next month.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:06 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Sorry, United States! :) Iīm in Cancun Mexico!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:22 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Ted there should be some links here

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:35 Eastern US
TedT (Type 2, Diagnosed 6 weeks ago) from 205.164.145.94
Ta - B & K (Ta is slang for thanks in Scotland!)

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:39 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Thanks Kris and Betty

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:40 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
thanks for the advice Betty and Kris

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:42 Eastern US
Ann from 65.224.221.173
Jenna ~ how long ago was that 1099?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:04:49 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Good night Betty and Kris!! Till next time!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:05:01 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 207.29.205.120
B & K: that has never been suggested to me by dr. not R.D. They have wanted me to be very consistent. I am 98% of the time. Also achieving sanity...that's debatable today. Can't wait until the Medrol is out of my system.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:05:09 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
See you in 2 weeks B&K, thanks!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:05:11 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
in January this year Ann

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:05:41 Eastern US
Susie (T-2) from 207.29.205.120
Thanks B &K. You are always so helpful.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:05:52 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Nina, is diabetes on the rise in Mexico like everywhere else?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:06:29 Eastern US
Ann from 65.224.221.173
Jenna~how often do you check your blood sugars? and does the oral medication help keep your numbers in a 70-120 range.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:06:46 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Yes Nancy! More that in other places, you know hispanics have more diabetes

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:07:18 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Nina, more type 1's or 2's

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:07:48 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
well i check it 4 times daily and they know i have type 1 but they think i may have type 2 too but just like B&K said im still in the honeymoon period

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:07:51 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
About 96% type 2 and 4% type 1 Nancy

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:08:38 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
my numbers stay pretty normal most of the time

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:08:41 Eastern US
Jenna (14) from 66.38.0.6
i have to go for a sec

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:08:49 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, that kind of surprises me, for some reason I would have thought more type 1s

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:08:50 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
The problem here Nancy is that no insurance covers the expenses for the treatmnent so itīs a big public health problem

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:09:55 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes nancy, few type 1 but anyway a lot of people have it ... more than 10% of the whole population

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:10:11 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
So they don't get to test very often because of test supplies????

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:10:37 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
I meant to say lack of test supplies

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:11:29 Eastern US
Ann from 65.224.221.173
Nina~ I was reading that genetics and lifestyle play a big incidence in Hispanics having diabetes.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:11:36 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes Nancy, they donīt even get meters, specially poor children, itīs so sad really, and when they can buy one they donīt really how to use it because of the lack of diabetes education

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:12:11 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
a meter here is about 100 dlls and each test about 0.5 dlls, a lot of money for checking many times a day or even getting a meter

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:12:20 Eastern US
Ann from 65.224.221.173
Jenna ~ are you from MI?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:12:56 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Do companies in the US help? Or individuals

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:12:57 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Yes Ann, thatīs right, less exercise, more fat and junk food and genetics plus stress .. a big bomb for diabetes

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:13:51 Eastern US
Ann from 65.224.221.173
I agree very much about the stress!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:13:52 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
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Wed Aug 22 2001 22:14:12 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
We get help from individuals, some from pharmaceutic companies and some from rotary and that kind of groups, but nothing is enough for more than 12 million people

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:14:27 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
that's bad Nina, do you have a support group set up where people can send supplies?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:15:11 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
but through education people learn to save and spend in diabetes treatment and control, thatīs the only way

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:15:12 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Good question Connie!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:16:11 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes, we have a national diabetes federation who gets donations, but diabetes education is the answer not just getting supplies donīt you think?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:16:51 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Yes, Nina education is extremely important

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:16:51 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
I think you need both Nina!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:17:11 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Lifestyle changes is the hardest part

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:17:17 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
right now i have 8 children without a meter ... so we are trying to get some for them but ... can you believe they have videogames but not a meter?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:18:13 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Sad isn't it, videogames are always affordable......

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:18:21 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes, we need all the support we can get, but we are working on that! one problem is that if we get meters from USA or other places then we canīt get the test strips ... itīs a mess

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:18:30 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Nina, are most of your patients adults or children

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:19:14 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes Connie, and i know they are important too but we just have to educate people ... unfortunatly doctors and the health system in general donīt worry about it

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:19:37 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
adults more than children

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:20:32 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, sounds like you are in a hard place to be

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:20:44 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
well, now iīm trying to organize a camp for children with diabetes because we donīt have any in all the Yucatan peninsula, but i have to raise enough funds and get donations from a lot of places

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:21:22 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes itīs hard but thatīs the wonderful challenge Nancy, whatever we do is worth

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:21:40 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina will the ADA help you with funding for the camp?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:22:20 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
so, i thank you for your interest Nancy

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:22:24 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Sounds like you need to educate the doctors first! Then we have that here, I have a friend's dad who was dx T2, the family doc won't send him to an endo "cause he's not really a diabetic if he doesn't need insulin" Boy am I having fun trying to convince them to change family docs(they're Korean and the doc speaks Korean so it's hard)

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:23:23 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Doctors can make you or break you that's for sure.

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:23:24 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Nop Nancy, because we have one mexican federation like ADA but of course is not as strong as the ADA, they organize camps in other places of the country but in the south we are just starting

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:24:44 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Nina won't they help you?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:24:46 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Yes girls!! I agree with you! and i usually give speeches to doctors, now iīm trying to teach them the importance of postprandial measures but itīs a long way ... maybe youīll come one day and visit us in our clinic

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:24:51 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, I am interested. I really feel for those less fortunate. Especially having to deal with something like diabetes. Gee whiz

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:25:34 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes, they will help, but every city has to get their own funds ... it doesnīt work like in the USA,

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:26:18 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Nina, I don't know if you read what I said earlier my internist said about postprandials but he said they are terribly important as you well know

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:26:53 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
It works that way everywhere Nina! Most camps are self funded

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:26:56 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes Nancy, weīll work it out ... right now, before the camp, we are trying to make a campaign in order to find type 1 diabetics, because we have about 30 and there must be about 300 in all this city!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:27:41 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
you should talk to Judith in Parents she might be able to help you she is on a camp board!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:27:53 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
and then when we found them then we can make all the paper work for the associaction in Quintana Roo (this state) and then i will ask hotels and big companies for donations, but itīs a lot of work!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:28:14 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Which city Nina?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:28:23 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Nina, I wish I had your address, I would help

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:28:28 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
yes, good idea Connie, Thanks!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:29:07 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Well girls, i live in Cancun Mexico, near the wonderful caribean beaches

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:29:49 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
Nina, the CWD Convention is being held in Ca next year! A lot of the diabusinesses will be there!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:29:58 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
I live near the Atlantic Ocean beaches

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:30:10 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
the addres is Clinica de diabetes, Hospital Americano, Retorno Viento no 15-211, Cancun Q. Roo, CP 77500 and my e mail is ninanazor@unesonline.com

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:30:33 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Connie, you are encycopedia (sp) of knowledge, girl

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:30:40 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
I'm on the Pacific(born by the Atlantic!)

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:31:04 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Thanks Nina for the address

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:31:16 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Sea is great isnīt it?? Really?? thatīs wonderful!! so weīll be seing here!!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:31:24 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.216
LOL Nancy I just live here and learn!! brb

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:31:44 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Connie what state were you born in

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:32:41 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Well girls ... i have to go ... but hope to see you in the next chat!! thanks for your support!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:33:16 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Thanks Nina you and your client are in my thoughts and prayers

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:34:01 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
I really thank you and please, take care girls!!!
Lots of kisses for you!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:34:30 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Saludos desde Mexico!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:34:54 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Si (that's the only word I know)

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:35:54 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
jajaja thatīs great Nancy! Bless you! see you next time! if i can help you feel free to write me ok?

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:36:14 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Si

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:37:06 Eastern US
Nina (Diabetes Educator) from 148.223.189.88
Bye! Sweet dreams!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:37:28 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Thanks Nina

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:40:23 Eastern US
Connie from 207.194.24.58
Nancy, I was born in Nova Scotia, live in British Columbia, 5000 miles away, just came back to say night, my mum is on the phone from back there!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:41:02 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.249.10.161
Connie, You are a long ways from home wow

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:41:39 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Good night Connie

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:42:37 Eastern US
Connie from 207.194.24.58
Yes, and mum is giving orders from back there, hard to realize I'm 42........LOL, have to go, she's waiting for me to call back, keep p the good work!!

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:43:56 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
You to Connie, take care of those fingers

Wed Aug 22 2001 22:53:01 Eastern US
eggywall (Support for Gourdin.com) from 61.11.27.7
does anybody know any herbs for Type I



                 
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