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Type 2 Support from September 26, 2001

Betty Brackenridge and Kris Swenson hosted a Virtual Support Group chat about Type 2 diabetes.

Chat Room Administrator Wed Sep 26 2001 20:15:00 Eastern US
The 'Virtual Support' chat room is now open.


Wed Sep 26 2001 20:32:43 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Hello,

Wed Sep 26 2001 20:59:13 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Hello Karen, welcome to the type 2 chat

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:00:20 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Hi Kris,

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:02:19 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Do you have any thing you were hoping to discuss tonight?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:02:53 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
My 1st time here,

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:03:12 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Hi Kris and Karen

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:04:05 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
HI Nancy

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:04:09 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Hi Nancy. Welcome to our chat. Betty is off talking at a local support group tonight to we'll be on our own.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:04:21 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
hi all, besides Rea being type 1, I am also type 2

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:05:08 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
My doctor started me on Pravachol 40 because the chacteristics of my cholestoral was not good at all

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:05:17 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Hi Beth, welcome to the type 2 chat. What part of Iowa are you from?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:05:55 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Nancy, Pravachol is a wonderful too for treatment of cholesterol. It's important for everybody to keep copies of their lab work and understand what each number means.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:06:09 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
tool....spelling bad again tonight

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:07:14 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
He sent my test off to NC for some kind of in depth break down of the blood work and said all of the results were either in the intermediate range or very high

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:07:26 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
northwest--Sioux City to be exact.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:07:58 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
He went over each number with me

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:09:07 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Nancy, sounds like he's very aggressive and open to working with you on this very important challenge with type 2 diabetes. Wonderful!

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:09:52 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Well, Beth, a side note... I was born and my extended family lives in northwest Iowa.. Swea City, Forest City, Estherville. Always a small world, huh?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:10:46 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Kris, why is it that a lot of diabetics have high cholestrol? He told me mine was inherited as well as my diabetes.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:10:52 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
I hope to travel to the US one day when the kids are older

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:11:31 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
sure is Kris.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:12:05 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Nancy, high cholesterol, high blood pressure and diabetes go hand in hand. It's called the metabolic syndrome and is genetic at it's base and made worse by the insulin resistance that comes with type 2 diabetes.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:12:17 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, what time is it where you are?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:12:17 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Karen, we would love for you to come to the US even though things are pretty sad here right now

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:14:20 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
The time here is 11:10am on Thrusday,, beautiful day outside, I went out with the kids when they went to school, I havent ventured back out,, no clouds out today

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:15:08 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Well gals, do you have anything you wanted to discuss tonight?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:16:26 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Kris,, what is your job here ?? never been here before

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:16:57 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Kris, have you always been interested the diabetic field. I hear type 2 is becoming epidemic and you have been in this field quite a while haven't you?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:18:36 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
I've been a nurse and diabetes educator since 1972. It's been a changing field, especially the last few years and very exciting with all we have learned in research. Now with the new meds and insulins, treatments are improved and outcomes should improve also. Sadly, the old understanding continues to get in the way of better health care... my frustration.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:19:21 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, I serve as a moderator, usually with my business partner, Betty Brackenridge. We are here to answer questions and generally support the group. Much like we do at our support group here at our diabetes center in Phoenix

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:19:27 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
do you think there will ever be a pill for type 1's to take instead of shots?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:20:24 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
thanks Kris,, I have learnt something for the day :-)

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:20:42 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Nancy, I'm sure there will be an insulin pill coming along but I'm unsure if it will improve outcomes and blood sugars. How can you mimic an ever changing demand for small amounts of insulin with a pill?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:21:15 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Glad to assist your learning Karen. That's what we're here for

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:22:13 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
This desease is so weird, I have tried my best of figure it out. When I think my reading will be high, it's not and when I think it will be low it's high. Anyone else go through that?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:22:53 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
I have only been on the net now, since August, My son has been a diabetic for 30 months, so Im only new to chat

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:24:25 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, we have a chat for people and families with type 1 diabetes on the 2nd wednesday of each month too. You & Nathan might enjoy that connection to others living the same journey.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:24:47 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Kris, you might be able to help me with doses of Humalog,, we are changing to Humalog on the weekend the dr said for Nathan to have 12 units of Break,Lunch and Dinner and then the Protaphane at night,, Is that too much Humalog ?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:25:20 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
nancy, that is a constant struggle for the people we see here at the center, both with type 1 and 2. I think we really have to understand that we have no control over a huge portion of things, such as hormones, that change blood sugars day in day out.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:25:32 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
Yes, Nancy I find that to be true also. and then sometimes when I feel low I am high

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:26:06 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
That is alot of Humalog if he is not eating much carbohydrate. We usually don't give a set dose because that requires that people eat a set amount of carbohydrates and have no room to adjust for highs or lows before the meals.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:27:28 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, you might also find that if he has more than 4 hours between meals, he may run out of background insulin. Are you working with an educator to help you sort this all out? It truly is by trial and error. During puberty, insulin demand goes up because of those hormones. Testing 1-2 hours after the meal will give you feed back as to the dosing.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:28:50 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
You know Kris, I think you are right. I think sometimes I think I can control everything just by what I eat or don't eat. sometimes I forget about other factors that might be involved. Like maybe the stress I have from daily deadlines at the newspaper I work at.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:30:18 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
I have been under so much stress the last 5 months and yet my numbers have been pretty good, but have a cold now and high all day yesterday

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:30:25 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Exactly, Nancy. I think the reality is that we have less control than we ever thought! That is hard to accept, I know, when you see numbers on a meter that represent "absolutes", but actually are estimates.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:31:06 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Beth, the additional stress of the cold probably
"threw you over the edge" so to speak. Things are likely to settle down when the additional stress is gone.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:32:06 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Sometimes my 2 hour post meal can be pretty high over 200 then in the third hours shoot down like to 80. is that normal

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:33:13 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Yes, Nancy, that is pretty typical because your pancrease is slow to produce the insulin, as seen by the 1-2 hour, but gets going good by the 3rd hour.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:34:00 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
Kris, I have just been surprised that they have been so good the last several months.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:34:55 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
It has gotten some better since I was first diagnosed. On my GTT it was still over 200 after 4 hours so it has improved some since that time about coming down faster

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:36:24 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
Beth, are you exercising and counting carbs

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:36:45 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
It is shown to be very important in protecting the blood vessels, to look at the after meal blood sugar and keep it as low as possible. The new guidelines suggest less than 140 2 hours after eating. With the newer meds, such as Starlix and Prandin, this is possible. If not, the use of rapid acting insulin such as Humalog and Novolog work to match food eaten and keep the after meal number lower.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:36:55 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
thanks for helping out ,, I have been waiting for the educator to ring me back,,we are starting the Humalog on the weekend, so Nathan will be at home with the new changes,so if anything goes wrong I know where he is

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:37:20 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
I do try to count carbs, and I don't exercise other than all the walking I do at both jobs.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:38:15 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, test test test... that will guide you both on your journey of discovery. Matching Humalog to carbs is really the "way to go" to achieve some flexibility and safety after meals. I know you'll do well.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:39:08 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
140 wow, even with Starlix mine is over that sometimes. My CDE has me on what she considers tight control with a 160 post prandial

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:39:40 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Nathan always eats the same amount of cereal for brekky and 2 snadwiches for lunch and I make sure that he has potaotes,bread or pasta for dinner,, is that right ?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:41:05 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, there is no right or wrong. He should eat to his hunger, get good nutrition and match the insulin to whatever that is... just like he would do if he could produce the insulin internally.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:41:36 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Nancy, the new guidelines from the Academy of Endocrinology put the numbers lower, to mimic what europe and research are doing.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:41:57 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Remember, we were born to run at normal blood sugars to lower is better unless you're having hypoglycemia.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:42:42 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
isn't the ada guidelines like 180 or something. and I thought I was doing good now I'm not so sure

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:43:10 Eastern US
Beth (IA) (Rea 16, dx'd 7/98, pumping) from 199.120.105.87
well, I have to go now, Rea wants the computer now.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:43:56 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
bye beth. Keep those numbers down

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:43:57 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
The ADA guidelines were not as "tight" as europe and the US outcomes show it. I encourage you to discuss this with your educator.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:44:12 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Good night Beth. Thanks for joining us.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:45:12 Eastern US
Nancy (SC) (Type 2) from 208.224.174.71
I will, thanks Kris for the chat tonight. I am signing off too. I'm beat. See you next chat

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:45:34 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Good night Nancy. Have a good month and we'll check in later

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:45:51 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Karen, are you still here?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:46:34 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Yep ! sure Im Kris

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:47:17 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Just read about the new ADA postmeal guidlines-and I thought 180 was tough enough..That sounds impossible,even with a pump.Maybe easier for type 2's though

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:47:40 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
Im here, but shouldnt been,, there is always some house work to do

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:47:53 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Hi Heidyn, yes you're right, it's much harder when you're "playing pancreas" with insulin.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:48:51 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Some type one's can do that though,probably the ones who live a long time

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:49:49 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Heidyn, I think that many people with type 1 diabetes make a little insulin, some more than others, and that makes the journey a bit easier. Each person is different and the genetics that protect us all from diseases are out of our control too.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:51:39 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
well, in the last few minutes anything else you'd like to discuss?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:52:56 Eastern US
Karen, Aussie (Mum, Nathan, 13) from 203.34.200.239
I just wanted to say thanks for chatting with me, I will chat later hopefully,Bye for now

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:53:17 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Yes Kris,I'd agree with that..during my rather lengthy honeymoon(2.5 yrs) I had rather low insulin doses at times.Sometimes doses would go to practiclly nothing,so I think my pancreas was producing then.It was weird,but it helped control alot.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:53:25 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Bye Karen. Good luck this weekend!

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:53:36 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Bye Karen

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:54:31 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Is it possible-for the pancreas to sporadiclly produce insulin at times?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:54:31 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Heidyn, any parting words or comments?? Looks like it's just you and me.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:54:45 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Till it eventually burns out.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:55:35 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
Heidyn, yes it is. There are different types of type 1 diabetes and you can have this happen, especially in the first few months or even years. On the web site you can find the descriptions of the different types.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:56:30 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Would using an insulin sesitizer of some sort help prolong things?

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:57:10 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
If you are not over weight, chances are that you are not insulin resistant. That is mainly what they are used for.

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:58:48 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Well I am a bit overweight,can't seem to lose it.If I lost some,perhaps I'd be more sensitive to insulin

Wed Sep 26 2001 21:59:59 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
You might also try exercising more, decreasing your insulin to avoid lows and see if that helps too. That's natures insulin sensitizer.

Wed Sep 26 2001 22:00:31 Eastern US
Kris (chat co-host) from 64.12.101.166
well, hope you'll be joining us in a couple weeks for the type 1 chat. Good night, Heidyn, hope you have a good journey until we "meet" again.

Wed Sep 26 2001 22:01:05 Eastern US
Heidyn (type 1 pumper) from 164.106.22.59
Ok,thanks for answering my questions,and goodnight Kris.

Wed Sep 26 2001 22:20:37 Eastern US
Connie(BC) (Type 1) from 207.194.24.122
hello



                 
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